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PostPosted: Mon May 13, 2019 2:44 pm
by Luminesa
I mean, I observed a teacher once who said Spain was not a part of Europe, another that said that didn't know what the Alps were. Actually had to give a short geography lesson to a classroom of fifth-graders when it was clear she was more confused than they were.

Yes, kids should learn geography. It's important for learning basically every other concept in Social Studies.

PostPosted: Mon May 13, 2019 4:14 pm
by Nanatsu no Tsuki
Kowani wrote:
Infected Mushroom wrote:
I have no idea what he's trying to say

If he's trying to say, its faster to put a bridge and then walk... vs just walking without a bridge...

its not really the same with French + Spanish

Learning French first isn't a 2 minute endeavour, its something that can take years and years (and it also depends on your definition of having "learned" the language, you don't really learn a language until you can converse fluently in it, can read and write etc, that takes a ton of time)

Learning French and THEN Spanish is at least a X2 effort.

Unless you're under some misconception that French is easy as all hell to learn (having learned it myself, I can tell you its not easy)

I also speak French. It was easy. But then again, I speak 4 other languages, 3 of which are Romance. This is what we mean by stepping stones. Because French and Spanish are both Romance languages, learning one makes learning the other easier. S’why I took Portuguese and French at the same time.


I was going to say. I speak Spanish, Asturian (which helped with learning Galego), French (it made it much easier to learn Catalan) and English, and although there are some complexities involved (every language does), it's not a Herculean task as IM seems to imply.

PostPosted: Mon May 13, 2019 4:15 pm
by Nanatsu no Tsuki
Luminesa wrote:I mean, I observed a teacher once who said Spain was not a part of Europe, another that said that didn't know what the Alps were. Actually had to give a short geography lesson to a classroom of fifth-graders when it was clear she was more confused than they were.

Yes, kids should learn geography. It's important for learning basically every other concept in Social Studies.


There are people, believe it or not, who say Spain should be considered part of Africa and not Europe. Go figure.

PostPosted: Mon May 13, 2019 4:30 pm
by Cekoviu
Nanatsu no Tsuki wrote:
Luminesa wrote:I mean, I observed a teacher once who said Spain was not a part of Europe, another that said that didn't know what the Alps were. Actually had to give a short geography lesson to a classroom of fifth-graders when it was clear she was more confused than they were.

Yes, kids should learn geography. It's important for learning basically every other concept in Social Studies.


There are people, believe it or not, who say Spain should be considered part of Africa and not Europe. Go figure.

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PostPosted: Mon May 13, 2019 4:31 pm
by Nanatsu no Tsuki
Cekoviu wrote:
Nanatsu no Tsuki wrote:
There are people, believe it or not, who say Spain should be considered part of Africa and not Europe. Go figure.

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Nah nah nah, come back. You give us far too many headaches.

PostPosted: Thu May 23, 2019 12:04 pm
by Emazia
Risottia wrote:Studying geography is pretty useless. Take any direction and the free market will take you wherever you want to go.

The invisible hand is only good for giving yourself the pleasure that you will never get. Read up on cultural Marxism (the Frankfurt School, not the far-right conspiracy theory) and you'll see what I mean.

PostPosted: Thu May 23, 2019 12:06 pm
by Cekoviu
Emazia wrote:
Risottia wrote:Studying geography is pretty useless. Take any direction and the free market will take you wherever you want to go.

The invisible hand is only good for giving yourself the pleasure that you will never get.

I cannot interpret this as anything but a masturbation joke.

PostPosted: Thu Jun 06, 2019 11:30 pm
by Neo Kerala
Infected Mushroom wrote:
Kowani wrote:Here, I underlined a key word for you.
Besides. I know. I speak both of them. Knowing English makes it easier to learn French because of the overlap. Knowing French makes it easier to learn Spanish, because the overlap is that much greater. (Although note that French is Gallo-Romance and Spanish Ibero-Romance.) However, between English and Spanish is almost nonexistent. Learning French facilitates Spanish.


Learning just 1 language is always faster than having to learn 2 of them back to back.

Have you heard of languages being related? It makes you already know half the language.

PostPosted: Thu Jun 06, 2019 11:48 pm
by The Liberated Territories
In terms of time preference or marginal utility: no not really, unless you are working in a job that might need that knowledge.

PostPosted: Fri Jun 07, 2019 12:38 am
by The Blaatschapen
Nanatsu no Tsuki wrote:
Luminesa wrote:I mean, I observed a teacher once who said Spain was not a part of Europe, another that said that didn't know what the Alps were. Actually had to give a short geography lesson to a classroom of fifth-graders when it was clear she was more confused than they were.

Yes, kids should learn geography. It's important for learning basically every other concept in Social Studies.


There are people, believe it or not, who say Spain should be considered part of Africa and not Europe. Go figure.


This is why we need moor geography lessons, not less.

PostPosted: Fri Jun 07, 2019 4:10 am
by Risottia
Infected Mushroom wrote:Unless you're under some misconception that French is easy as all hell to learn (having learned it myself, I can tell you its not easy)


Meh, French and Spanish don't strike me as much more complex than my first language.
Now, Arabic... that's a fucking mess.

PostPosted: Fri Jun 07, 2019 4:32 am
by The Blaatschapen
Risottia wrote:
Infected Mushroom wrote:Unless you're under some misconception that French is easy as all hell to learn (having learned it myself, I can tell you its not easy)


Meh, French and Spanish don't strike me as much more complex than my first language.
Now, Arabic... that's a fucking mess.


If I ever learn Arabic, I get Arabic Afrikaans almost for free :)

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Arabic_Afrikaans

PostPosted: Fri Jun 07, 2019 4:45 am
by Risottia
The blAAtschApen wrote:
Risottia wrote:
Meh, French and Spanish don't strike me as much more complex than my first language.
Now, Arabic... that's a fucking mess.


If I ever learn Arabic, I get Arabic Afrikaans almost for free :)

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Arabic_Afrikaans
:lol:
Arabic Afrikaans shall be the new official language of EUrabia.