Why does Antisemitism persist?

[Esheaun Stroakuss]

You do realize you're talking about genocide ethnic cleansing, right? Not some lewd t shirt, but actual mass murder. An you're going "Eh, pussy pinko UN, who cares, amirite?"

I suppose I come across as so insensitive and outrageous but human life really is cheap to me.

"I suppose I come across as so insensitive and outrageous, so let me prove I am insensitive and outrageous."

You're no better than a Nazi with your callous sociopathy.

[Nevv Vegas]

Maybe it's what happens when jews control the overwhelming majority of the media, then people start noticing. Anti-semitism is not persistant, after ww2 it was forced out of the overton window.

[The Xenopolis Confederation]

Maybe it's what happens when jews control the overwhelming majority of the media, then people start noticing. Anti-semitism is not persistant, after ww2 it was forced out of the overton window.

Can you stop with this identity politics please?

[LiberNovusAmericae]

There's always going to be bigots unfortunately.

[Kannap]

Why does actual antisemitism exist? Unfortunately there are always awful people who hate other people.

I do think, however, that a lot of people recently mistake a great hatred or dislike of the nation of Israel, particularly in regards to its inhumane practices against Palestinians, as antisemitism.

[Scomagia]

Why does actual antisemitism exist? Unfortunately there are always awful people who hate other people.

I do think, however, that a lot of people recently mistake a great hatred or dislike of the nation of Israel, particularly in regards to its inhumane practices against Palestinians, as antisemitism.

Well, sometimes anti-Israel sentiment actually is covert antisemitism. Making references to Israelies being animals or Israel brainwashing others to their defence, for instance, strikes as antisemitism, rather than criticism of policy. It is a fact that antisemites hide their hate behind the veil of criticising Israel. It is also true that many critics of Israel are simply that and not hatemongers.

[Kannap]

Why does actual antisemitism exist? Unfortunately there are always awful people who hate other people.

I do think, however, that a lot of people recently mistake a great hatred or dislike of the nation of Israel, particularly in regards to its inhumane practices against Palestinians, as antisemitism.

Well, sometimes anti-Israel sentiment actually is covert antisemitism. Making references to Israelies being animals or Israel brainwashing others to their defence, for instance, strikes as antisemitism, rather than criticism of policy. It is a fact that antisemites hide their hate behind the veil of criticising Israel. It is also true that many critics of Israel are simply that and not hatemongers.

Well, in the examples, you've given then sure those people are antisemitic.

Though, I think far more likely, people like myself who criticize Israel for their settlements, constant taking of Palestinian land, and constant violence towards Palestinians, are the ones being called antisemitic.

I've nothing against anybody for any religion they profess, I simply have a dislike for America Lite: Middle East Boogaloo when it comes to their historical track record of violence and hatred of Palestinians.

[Scomagia]

Well, sometimes anti-Israel sentiment actually is covert antisemitism. Making references to Israelies being animals or Israel brainwashing others to their defence, for instance, strikes as antisemitism, rather than criticism of policy. It is a fact that antisemites hide their hate behind the veil of criticising Israel. It is also true that many critics of Israel are simply that and not hatemongers.

Well, in the examples, you've given then sure those people are antisemitic.

Though, I think far more likely, people like myself who criticize Israel for their settlements, constant taking of Palestinian land, and constant violence towards Palestinians, are the ones being called antisemitic.

I've nothing against anybody for any religion they profess, I simply have a dislike for America Lite: Middle East Boogaloo when it comes to their historical track record of violence and hatred of Palestinians.

Sure. Some of that is dishonesty on the part of Israeli-apologists to smear their opposition. However, not all of those who profess concerns about Palestinians actually have the same motives as you. It's a great cover for Jew hating. The waters are very muddy.

[Kash Island]

they need to reverse anti-semitism and bring more diversity, force middle eastern nations to take large amounts of jews and give them protections

[Pope Joan]

In Southeast Asia and South Africa, there is a similar prejudice against Chinese people.

There are similarities; close knit ethnic group with distinct habits and lingo, often giving each other loans with little or no interest while charging high interest to outsiders, shrewd businesspeople, bright, hard working, high achievers. All of which makes everybody else feel bad. Rather than work and study harder and be better about borrowing and lending within their own circles, everybody else finds it more convenient to indulge in prejudice

[Arcturus Novus]

Maybe it's what happens when jews control the overwhelming majority of the media, then people start noticing. Anti-semitism is not persistant, after ww2 it was forced out of the overton window.

>Jews control the media
>Antisemitism is not persistent
Right then.

[Bezkoshtovnya]

Maybe it's what happens when jews control the overwhelming majority of the media, then people start noticing. Anti-semitism is not persistant, after ww2 it was forced out of the overton window.

Source? And then source that this is somehow an evil thing if it turns out this is the case?

[Badb Catha]

Bigotry as always existed and will always exist. Antisemitism in particular is a result of a number of historical factors. The Jews came to Europe in large migratory waves to Europe, settled in large communities, spoke an alien language, practiced unusual customs, had bizarre traditions, held heretical religious beliefs, and held enough positions in mercantile guilds, feudal courts, scientific communities, and other influential factions integral to a nation's survival and development that a sentiment of fear or hatred was developed by the common peasant; who was usually uneducated, fundamentalist, and xenophobic. For whatever reason these sentiments persisted to the point that even the most scholarly of intellectuals could hold such ignorant and short-sighted views. All this would eventually culminate in fearmongering to create the perfect scapegoat to achieve otherwise difficult goals, the forced hand of otherwise just rulers to take action against them in light of recent tragedies or risk revolt, and of course outright genocide in the form of pogroms and later the Holocaust.

The persistence of the "Jewish Conspiracy" is a combination of the above with the inherent incapability of some humans of accepting that some things simply are the way they are, preferring to look for a face or name to apply to their problems so they can properly take out their otherwise undirected anger and frustration; a scapegoat. It is easier to pin the blame for all one's problems on a single person or group of people instead of accepting personal responsibility or pure chance/fate.

[Bears Armed]

Bigotry as always existed and will always exist. Antisemitism in particular is a result of a number of historical factors. The Jews came to Europe in large migratory waves to Europe, settled in large communities, spoke an alien language, practiced unusual customs, had bizarre traditions, held heretical religious beliefs, and held enough positions in mercantile guilds,

Actually, Jewish participation in mercantile guilds was severely limited in some European nations: One of the reasons why they became known as money-lenders was because it was one of the few professions actually legal for them there.

[The Huskar Social Union]

Cuz some people are assholes who like to blame others for shit for being different and for any problems you might have.

[Lanoraie II]

Why don't people ask where it came from?

[Lanoraie II]

Maybe it's what happens when jews control the overwhelming majority of the media, then people start noticing. Anti-semitism is not persistant, after ww2 it was forced out of the overton window.

>Jews control the media
>Antisemitism is not persistent
Right then.

Jews factually do control the media. It's not antisemitism to point that out. On the other hand, people on 4chan insisting a Jewish woman who has been nothing but nice to me without asking for anything in return is trying to manipulate me, falls much more closer to that.

[Frostnia]

Bigotry as always existed and will always exist. Antisemitism in particular is a result of a number of historical factors. The Jews came to Europe in large migratory waves to Europe, settled in large communities, spoke an alien language, practiced unusual customs, had bizarre traditions, held heretical religious beliefs, and held enough positions in mercantile guilds,

Actually, Jewish participation in mercantile guilds was severely limited in some European nations: One of the reasons why they became known as money-lenders was because it was one of the few professions actually legal for them there.

>European Christians encourage Jews to become money lenders because they can't
>ThE JeWS aRe PrAcTICinG uSuRY

[Bears Armed]

Actually, Jewish participation in mercantile guilds was severely limited in some European nations: One of the reasons why they became known as money-lenders was because it was one of the few professions actually legal for them there.

>European Christians encourage Jews to become money lenders because they can't
>ThE JeWS aRe PrAcTICinG uSuRY

Basically, yes...
... and then they'd sometimes massacre or expel the Jews to get out of having to repay the loans...

[The Archregimancy]

Maybe it's what happens when jews control the overwhelming majority of the media

Rupert Murdoch is Jewish?

Well knock me down with a rubber spoon.

[Kannap]

Maybe it's what happens when jews control the overwhelming majority of the media

Rupert Murdoch is Jewish?

Well knock me down with a rubber spoon.

Now Arch, you know Fox News is just a bastion of evangelical Jewish propaganda.

[Resalt]

Because an unfortunate fact of life is that as long as groups exist, there needs to be an enemy for them to oppose. Otherwise, there's no reason for the group to exist.

This is regardless of what the actual enemy is. If capitalism didn't exist, communists would have no enemy to rail against. If industrialization and pollution didn't exist, environmentalists wouldn't have their enemy. If wealth didn't exist, there could be no definition of poverty or poor people. If war didn't exist, pacifists would have nothing to argue against.

If jews didn't exist, then every group or person against them wouldn't have their enemy. Conversely, if people hating jews didn't exist, then the jews wouldn't have a common enemy either.

It sucks, but it's life. If we never invented the idea of groups, we couldn't unify for a common cause or ideal. So unfortunately if we want the benefit of groups, we have to accept the downside that some groups are just going to be opposed to each other. There are some things we can do about it, but we can't remove the base idea of their being enemies without dissolving the unity of the groups or just making ourselves their new enemies.


tl;dr, people are always going to look for an enemy as the reason everything is wrong with the world because it's what brings people together for a common goal. If you take away their enemy, they'll just find a new one.

[Bears Armed]

Reading a book about the 'Little Ice Age' yesterday evening, I came across another factor that helped to encourage antisemitism in eastern Europe: Apparently when the major shift there from subsistence agriculture to more intensive cultivation of grain for export (which required more work by the serfs) took place it was quite common for landowners to appoint Jews as estate managers... not only because they were more likely than non-Jews in those lands to be literate & numerate, but also because they could be used as scapegoats when having to cope with mobs of angry peasants.

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For a less depressing story about the Jewish Diaspora, however, I give you the life of Moses Cohen Henriques: Pirate Captain.

[Zhivotnoye]

'Why does any form of discrimination persist?' would have been a better title.

As for the answer, haters gonna hate.

[Vallermoore]

Israel being around creates a lot of anti-Semitism. Before it, most Arabs tolerated the Jewish people (except in Saudi Arabia.)