That said, I am in favour of LGBT+ marriage. Though I prefer having marriage as a governmental thing to be abolished, having it open to all citizens regardless of gender and/or sexual orientation is a good first step.
Edit: I only read OP
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by The Blaatschapen » Thu May 02, 2019 1:54 am

by Old Tyrannia » Thu May 02, 2019 2:20 am

by Mettaton-EX » Thu May 02, 2019 2:44 am
Old Tyrannia wrote:I don't believe that the Crown in England should extend official recognition to any marriage that isn't regarded as valid by the Anglican Church. It's not an issue that particularly bothers me, though.

by The Grims » Thu May 02, 2019 2:54 am
Sapientia Et Bellum wrote:The Grims wrote:
And we do not get the whole "this things has 1000 uses, but I do not see the point of getting it if one only wants to use 999 of them" reasoning
Then that's where we are.... I see marriage as something beyond a state contract likely due to the fact I had a religious upbringing... Its just how I have come to understand the idea of a marital union

by The Blaatschapen » Thu May 02, 2019 2:57 am
The Rich Port wrote:Why else WOULD you get married. The whole reason why people discriminate against gay people is by barring them from the same tax benefits heterosexual cisgenders get.

by Forsher » Thu May 02, 2019 3:06 am

by The Blaatschapen » Thu May 02, 2019 3:09 am
Forsher wrote:If you're homophobic what you really want to is to not hear about homosexuality. You might think you want something else but this is your real objective: out of sight, out of mind. Banning gay marriage merely has the effect of stimulating attention towards the issue and therefore is self defeating.
If you're not homophobic and not opposed to marriage as an institution to start with I really can't see why you'd object to it.
If you;re not homophobic and opposed to marriage you think gay marriage bans are a good first step and are, even now, trying to convince people to ban all marriage.
These are my opinions on gay marriage. Also, invite me to your wedding plz. I like weddings.

by Forsher » Thu May 02, 2019 3:12 am
The blAAtschApen wrote:Forsher wrote:If you're homophobic what you really want to is to not hear about homosexuality. You might think you want something else but this is your real objective: out of sight, out of mind. Banning gay marriage merely has the effect of stimulating attention towards the issue and therefore is self defeating.
If you're not homophobic and not opposed to marriage as an institution to start with I really can't see why you'd object to it.
If you;re not homophobic and opposed to marriage you think gay marriage bans are a good first step and are, even now, trying to convince people to ban all marriage.
These are my opinions on gay marriage. Also, invite me to your wedding plz. I like weddings.
Your third opinion I disagree with. I am not homophobic and opposed to marriage and I think allowing (keeping; I was 17 when it was allowed in my then jurisdiction) gay marriage is a good thing.

by The Huskar Social Union » Thu May 02, 2019 3:30 am

by The New California Republic » Thu May 02, 2019 3:44 am

by American Pere Housh » Thu May 02, 2019 3:48 am


by The New California Republic » Thu May 02, 2019 3:57 am
American Pere Housh wrote:*Watches in amusement at these snowflake's stupidity*

by Old Tyrannia » Thu May 02, 2019 4:00 am

by Asherahan » Thu May 02, 2019 4:00 am

by American Pere Housh » Thu May 02, 2019 4:07 am

by The Blaatschapen » Thu May 02, 2019 4:12 am
Forsher wrote:The blAAtschApen wrote:
Your third opinion I disagree with. I am not homophobic and opposed to marriage and I think allowing (keeping; I was 17 when it was allowed in my then jurisdiction) gay marriage is a good thing.
Marriage is bad but gay marriage... otherwise the same except for who is in it... is good?

by Jakker » Thu May 02, 2019 4:30 am
American Pere Housh wrote:*Watches in amusement at these snowflake's stupidity*
The Bruce wrote:Mostly I feel sorry for [raiders], because they put in all this effort and at the end of the day have nothing to show for it and have created nothing.

by American Pere Housh » Thu May 02, 2019 4:31 am

by The Blaatschapen » Thu May 02, 2019 4:38 am

by Forsher » Thu May 02, 2019 4:41 am
The blAAtschApen wrote:Forsher wrote:
Marriage is bad but gay marriage... otherwise the same except for who is in it... is good?
No, you misunderstand. Marriage is discriminatory. By making marriage open to more groups, it becomes less discriminatory. Hence why I support making it more open, especially when abolishing is simply not in the cards right now.

by The Blaatschapen » Thu May 02, 2019 4:49 am
Forsher wrote:The blAAtschApen wrote:
No, you misunderstand. Marriage is discriminatory. By making marriage open to more groups, it becomes less discriminatory. Hence why I support making it more open, especially when abolishing is simply not in the cards right now.
If your problem with marriage is that it's discriminatory I don't really think you oppose marriage as an idea.
That it would be easier to ban once everyone has it might be true though.

by Tarsonis » Thu May 02, 2019 4:52 am
The blAAtschApen wrote:Forsher wrote:
If your problem with marriage is that it's discriminatory I don't really think you oppose marriage as an idea.
That it would be easier to ban once everyone has it might be true though.
What is the idea of marriage?![]()
Everyone is free to use whatever symbols, etc. to express their consensual love between two (or more) human beings.
But my problem is purely with the government assigning benefits to it.

by The Blaatschapen » Thu May 02, 2019 4:55 am

by Shanhwa » Thu May 02, 2019 5:08 am
The Alma Mater wrote:Gilmanian Districts wrote:From what I take the meaning of life to be in the biological sense, it is against the laws of nature to be gay/lesbian/bi.
You reasoning is backwards. You argue "I believe it should be so, therefor reality must agree" instead of looking what reality actually is and then basing your understanding on that.
Fact is that homosexuality is common in nature and that having a few homosexuals around seems to improve the reproductive succesrate of (animal) populations. Examining why is your homework assignment.
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