What is your opinion on LGBT+ marriage?

[The Rich Port]

Since I don't want to get dragged into another Fourm idiology war I'll now give my witty Blunt end statement.

I think it's unnatural for men to be with men and vis versa, and I personally think it's morally wrong but as long as me and my religious/ Other 1st amindment and God given rights are left alone y'all can do as you like.

But I'll stop believing what I said above when I have the power to make anything I want appear out of thin air.
but since I'm not Richer than Tony Stark, Controlling the Anglo American world, with Wonder Woman. Black widow. MJ. And Daisy Duke doing whatever I want/ Camand my opinion stays the same.

Y'all have fun with the Likely idiology war thats coming, I'm going to Nixon out of here, Peace

33 pages in is a bit late to get a post in before the screaming happens. That's like visiting Berlin in May 1945 to see the sights before the Soviets arrive.

Ehhh I'd say more 1948 but whatevs XD

Also, real rich coming from a Christian, coming in here thinking we're the ones fighting a War on Christmas or Intelligent Design whatever they think we're actually fighting.

[Slavakino]

Pretty much against anything LGBT says. We gotta convert them into straights

[Christian Confederation]

33 pages in is a bit late to get a post in before the screaming happens. That's like visiting Berlin in May 1945 to see the sights before the Soviets arrive.

Ehhh I'd say more 1948 but whatevs XD

Also, real rich coming from a Christian, coming in here thinking we're the ones fighting a War on Christmas or Intelligent Design whatever they think we're actually fighting.

Booth true but I to be honest posted this afternoon and got carried away reading avengers fanfiction.

Petter Stark: I thought it was a normal day but as soon as I get downstairs I see Captain Flipping America making pancakes!
I parafrased of course but yeah some of that stuff is written very well and made me laugh, and cry a couple of times.

[The Rich Port]

Ehhh I'd say more 1948 but whatevs XD

Also, real rich coming from a Christian, coming in here thinking we're the ones fighting a War on Christmas or Intelligent Design whatever they think we're actually fighting.

Booth true but I to be honest posted this afternoon and got carried away reading avengers fanfiction.

Petter Stark: I thought it was a normal day but as soon as I get downstairs I see Captain Flipping America making pancakes!
I parafrased of course but yeah some of that stuff is written very well and made me laugh, and cry a couple of times.

... Breh what the fuck is wrong with you.

You need Jesus.

You thought we'd assault you about being anti-homosexual because you were reading Avenger's fanfiction?

[The Alma Mater]

Pretty much against anything LGBT says. We gotta convert them into straights

Poor Alan Turning.

[Farnhamia]

Booth true but I to be honest posted this afternoon and got carried away reading avengers fanfiction.

Petter Stark: I thought it was a normal day but as soon as I get downstairs I see Captain Flipping America making pancakes!
I parafrased of course but yeah some of that stuff is written very well and made me laugh, and cry a couple of times.

... Nigga what the fuck is wrong with you.

You need Jesus.

Don't do "Nigga ..." How long have you been around here?

[San Lumen]

Pretty much against anything LGBT says. We gotta convert them into straights

What? Conversion therapy does not work. I know someone who was put through it and it traumatized him

[The Free Joy State]

Pretty much against anything LGBT says. We gotta convert them into straights

Not possible and harmful.

And for no possible purpose, except saving the feels of a few people who are so uncomfortable with two consenting adults loving one another that -- not content with saying "not my thing, but live and let live" -- they have to attempt to crush that perfectly normal emotion.

[The Rich Port]

... Nigga what the fuck is wrong with you.

You need Jesus.

Don't do "Nigga ..." How long have you been around here?

I didn't mean it in a slurrish way but rather a worried way, but... Fair enough, I guess?

I've been gone a while, maybe I need to review the rules.

[Bienenhalde]

And for anyone who wants to be a Christian but without the closeted homophobia, they can check out the Episcopal church. We have donuts after service!

Are you suggesting that I'm not being sincere when I say that I tolerate it? Or am I just being paranoid?

I think you are just paranoid.

[Glittertoot]

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Haha, it's funny because a religious person unironically made a joke about a country that's supposed to be Communist and anti-religion.

bold of you to assume im religous

[The Rich Port]

Are you suggesting that I'm not being sincere when I say that I tolerate it? Or am I just being paranoid?

I think you are just paranoid.

I always feel like gay people are committing siiiiiiiiin

And I ain't got no Intelligent Design, oh oh oh.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7YvAYIJSSZY

[Christian Confederation]

Booth true but I to be honest posted this afternoon and got carried away reading avengers fanfiction.

Petter Stark: I thought it was a normal day but as soon as I get downstairs I see Captain Flipping America making pancakes!
I parafrased of course but yeah some of that stuff is written very well and made me laugh, and cry a couple of times.

... Breh what the fuck is wrong with you.

You need Jesus.

You thought we'd assault you about being anti-homosexual because you were reading Avenger's fanfiction?

Nope just making small talk

[Bienenhalde]

I think you are just paranoid.

I always feel like gay people are committing siiiiiiiiin

And I ain't got no Intelligent Design, oh oh oh.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7YvAYIJSSZY

Sorry, but I do not think mocking Minachia is a useful contribution to this discussion.

[Elwher]

Simple: It isn't natural, it is a byproduct of the Fall and Satan's meddling.

And yet again, I will iterate this for future reference, because I'm getting tired of saying it and want to make sure you see it: I tolerate LGBT marriage in the secular world.

But God created Satan.

Is he not all-powerful then?

Who do you refer to as 'he'? If God, then yes; if Satan, then no because a created being is not as powerful as its creator.

[Elwher]

Simple: It isn't natural, it is a byproduct of the Fall and Satan's meddling.

So, the all powerful, all knowing God couldn’t stop the Devil (which he created by the way!) from meddling in his perfect plan.

Not couldn't but chose not to, so that mankind could have the choice to follow Him or Satan. Free will at work.

[The Rich Port]

I always feel like gay people are committing siiiiiiiiin

And I ain't got no Intelligent Design, oh oh oh.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7YvAYIJSSZY

Sorry, but I do not think mocking Minachia is a useful contribution to this discussion.

Considering his argument seems to be that gay people make him paranoid and that they commit sin in his opinion, I disagree.

He hasn't addressed his contradiction on the rational basis of sin, as opposed to the theological basis of it, which we would all have to agree to argue, which plenty of people won't, because NSG is highly secular and/or atheist and most people in the world aren't Christians anyway so from a Christian standpoint it has less ground to stand on.

It's the problem with any theological argument, really. Unlike philosophical arguments, which can be applied to most things, theological arguments exist internally within philosophical discourse but not externally. Which is to say, you can make any philosophical argument and it can be valid and verifiable, but not a theological argument, since most theological arguments don't come from observation or deduction, but rather from inductive reasoning only.

This is only practical in few instances and irrelevant in several respects unless more things are invented for it/religious writings are updated.

[Bienenhalde]

Considering his argument seems to be that gay people make him paranoid and that they commit sin in his opinion, I disagree.

He hasn't addressed his contradiction on the rational basis of sin, as opposed to the theological basis of it, which we would all have to agree to argue, which plenty of people won't, because NSG is highly secular and/or atheist and most people in the world aren't Christians anyway so from a Christian standpoint it has less ground to stand on.

It's the problem with any theological argument, really. Unlike philosophical arguments, which can be applied to most things, theological arguments exist internally within philosophical discourse but not externally. Which is to say, you can make any philosophical argument and it can be valid and verifiable, but not a theological argument, since most theological arguments don't come from observation or deduction, but rather from inductive reasoning only.

He is not paranoid about gay people though, he seems to be paranoid about people in this thread questioning the sincerity of his argument.

[Heloin]

But God created Satan.

Is he not all-powerful then?

Who do you refer to as 'he'? If God, then yes; if Satan, then no because a created being is not as powerful as its creator.

God needs to watch The Terminator some day.

[The Rich Port]

So, the all powerful, all knowing God couldn’t stop the Devil (which he created by the way!) from meddling in his perfect plan.

Not couldn't but chose not to, so that mankind could have the choice to follow Him or Satan. Free will at work.

Succubi in Hell... Or the chaste sausage fest of angels in Heaven.

Yeah, that's not a very dichotomous choice. Hell every time.

Choice implies that we'd take one or the other because of one reason or the other.

In all seriousness, why would anybody choose Hell. The Christian version of Hell has literally nothing good about it, and God apparently can't stop the lies of Satan, so he's not THAT powerful then.

Considering his argument seems to be that gay people make him paranoid and that they commit sin in his opinion, I disagree.

He hasn't addressed his contradiction on the rational basis of sin, as opposed to the theological basis of it, which we would all have to agree to argue, which plenty of people won't, because NSG is highly secular and/or atheist and most people in the world aren't Christians anyway so from a Christian standpoint it has less ground to stand on.

It's the problem with any theological argument, really. Unlike philosophical arguments, which can be applied to most things, theological arguments exist internally within philosophical discourse but not externally. Which is to say, you can make any philosophical argument and it can be valid and verifiable, but not a theological argument, since most theological arguments don't come from observation or deduction, but rather from inductive reasoning only.

He is not paranoid about gay people though, he seems to be paranoid about people in this thread questioning the sincerity of his argument.

Probably because his argument is so weak and contradictory, which, yeah, it is.

[Elwher]

It's the problem with any theological argument, really. Unlike philosophical arguments, which can be applied to most things, theological arguments exist internally within philosophical discourse but not externally. Which is to say, you can make any philosophical argument and it can be valid and verifiable, but not a theological argument, since most theological arguments don't come from observation or deduction, but rather from inductive reasoning only.

Every philosophical argument, theological or other, are arguments based on certain unprovable axioms. Theology bases it on whatever revealed truth the user accepts, be that Bible, Koran, or whatever. Non-theological arguments base on things like maximizing utility, natural law, or whatever the user accepts. Both are based on inductive reasoning from accepted principles.

[Elwher]

Who do you refer to as 'he'? If God, then yes; if Satan, then no because a created being is not as powerful as its creator.

God needs to watch The Terminator some day.

Even there, the humans manage to overcome Skynet, so my point is still valid.

[The Rich Port]

It's the problem with any theological argument, really. Unlike philosophical arguments, which can be applied to most things, theological arguments exist internally within philosophical discourse but not externally. Which is to say, you can make any philosophical argument and it can be valid and verifiable, but not a theological argument, since most theological arguments don't come from observation or deduction, but rather from inductive reasoning only.

Every philosophical argument, theological or other, are arguments based on certain unprovable axioms. Theology bases it on whatever revealed truth the user accepts, be that Bible, Koran, or whatever. Non-theological arguments base on things like maximizing utility, natural law, or whatever the user accepts. Both are based on inductive reasoning from accepted principles.

Grats, logic 101.

Now prove the axioms in the Bible, Koran, or whatever, with deduction and evidence, which is what I said. Oh, right, you can't, because that's not how logic works. Induction by itself only works in limited circumstances in much the same way deduction works in limited circumstances.

Deduction and induction must be done at the same time in order to apply to most things.

God needs to watch The Terminator some day.

Even there, the humans manage to overcome Skynet, so my point is still valid.

... Only because there's a Mary Sue who stops them despite all odds being against them.

Are you saying John Connor is Jesus.

[Neanderthaland]

Are you saying John Connor is Jesus.

He's the only hope we've got.

[Heloin]

Even there, the humans manage to overcome Skynet, so my point is still valid.

... Only because there's a Mary Sue who stops them despite all odds being against them.

Are you saying John Connor is Jesus.

Makes prefect sense actually.