I am not a christian so I care even less.
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by Cekoviu » Mon May 13, 2019 8:50 am
Mettaton-EX wrote:Bezkoshtovnya wrote:Not true. There is evidence that points to same sex marital practices as far back as Mesopotamia.
trans and/or nonbinary people too, for that matter
by Bienenhalde » Mon May 13, 2019 9:49 am
Katganistan wrote:And the American Psychological Association disagrees with your opinion that there are only two genders and people with genders differing from their sex at birth are something new.
So please educate yourself rather than stick stubbornly to the 'it's all those damned liberals and SJWs forcing this down our throats! I Know Better!" script. Science knows best, and it doesn't support your opinion.
by Mettaton-EX » Mon May 13, 2019 10:42 am
by Cekoviu » Mon May 13, 2019 2:41 pm
Bienenhalde wrote:Katganistan wrote:And the American Psychological Association disagrees with your opinion that there are only two genders and people with genders differing from their sex at birth are something new.
So please educate yourself rather than stick stubbornly to the 'it's all those damned liberals and SJWs forcing this down our throats! I Know Better!" script. Science knows best, and it doesn't support your opinion.
I clicked on the link to the American Psychological Association page on Transgender issues, but looking over the outline of questions and answers, I did not see anything concerning whether or not there are more than two genders. Anyway, it is my understanding that the claim that there are more than two genders is based on the idea of gender as a social construct. But if gender were indeed socially constructed, and not a matter of biology, then wouldn't the whole issue fall under the purview of sociologists and anthropologists as opposed to psychology?
by Mettaton-EX » Mon May 13, 2019 5:06 pm
Bienenhalde wrote:But if gender were indeed socially constructed, and not a matter of biology,
by Unia Ante » Mon May 13, 2019 8:39 pm
by Elwher » Tue May 14, 2019 8:39 am
Unia Ante wrote:I wish that people would take of a more isolationist approach for things that are out of their control or things that don't hurt them. Such as LBGT marriage, I simply do not understand why it bothers anybody enough for them to want to take that away. I do have a question for people who said "no opinion". Did you answer that way because this is something you don't have a lot of knowledge in or is this a topic you truly don't care about? I am sorry if I come off strong, I am really just interested in insight and would like to discuss this in a respectful manner.
by The Rich Port » Mon May 20, 2019 9:47 am
Elwher wrote:Unia Ante wrote:I wish that people would take of a more isolationist approach for things that are out of their control or things that don't hurt them. Such as LBGT marriage, I simply do not understand why it bothers anybody enough for them to want to take that away. I do have a question for people who said "no opinion". Did you answer that way because this is something you don't have a lot of knowledge in or is this a topic you truly don't care about? I am sorry if I come off strong, I am really just interested in insight and would like to discuss this in a respectful manner.
Many, if not most, social justice movements are full of people who are concerned about things that don't hurt them. The Freedom Riders of the civil rights protests in the 1960's were mostly northern whites, who were not affected by southern segregation but chose an interventionist approach. I, for one, am very glad for activists on both side of issues because they bring the issue out of the shadows where it can be discussed in a respectful manner.
by Cekoviu » Mon May 20, 2019 10:16 am
The Rich Port wrote:Elwher wrote:
Many, if not most, social justice movements are full of people who are concerned about things that don't hurt them. The Freedom Riders of the civil rights protests in the 1960's were mostly northern whites, who were not affected by southern segregation but chose an interventionist approach. I, for one, am very glad for activists on both side of issues because they bring the issue out of the shadows where it can be discussed in a respectful manner.
Did you just equate a movement to end discrimination... With a movement that encourages discrimination?
by Tarsonis » Mon May 20, 2019 10:21 am
by Farnhamia » Mon May 20, 2019 10:37 am
Akrisen wrote:Undermines the traditional family unit which is what monogamous marriage was created thousands of years for in the first place not no "love".
by Heloin » Mon May 20, 2019 10:42 am
Akrisen wrote:Undermines the traditional family unit which is what monogamous marriage was created thousands of years for in the first place not no "love".
by Dogmeat » Mon May 20, 2019 10:43 am
Akrisen wrote:Undermines the traditional family unit which is what monogamous marriage was created thousands of years for in the first place not no "love".
by Akrisen » Mon May 20, 2019 11:02 am
by Cekoviu » Mon May 20, 2019 11:11 am
Akrisen wrote:Farnhamia wrote:Times change. People change. It happens.
Im not calling it bad, I am saying there is no point to the concept of marriage if children are not generated. Humans are by nature polygamous we have sex with many partners casually, monogamy is a construct of organized society and mainly happened due to one boy and one girl creating children.
by Akrisen » Mon May 20, 2019 11:14 am
Cekoviu wrote:Akrisen wrote:
Im not calling it bad, I am saying there is no point to the concept of marriage if children are not generated. Humans are by nature polygamous we have sex with many partners casually, monogamy is a construct of organized society and mainly happened due to one boy and one girl creating children.
It's worrying that you're discussing marriage in the context of "boys and girls."
by Heloin » Mon May 20, 2019 11:16 am
Akrisen wrote:Cekoviu wrote:It's worrying that you're discussing marriage in the context of "boys and girls."
Well that is what marriage is the sexual union between a boy or girl to create children and nothing more. A man and man getting together is love but not marriage, and same to a woman and woman. Heterosexual marriage is on its way out, have no idea why homosexuals or bisexuals care about this outdated social construct so much.
by Cekoviu » Mon May 20, 2019 11:18 am
Akrisen wrote:Cekoviu wrote:It's worrying that you're discussing marriage in the context of "boys and girls."
Well that is what marriage is the sexual union between a boy or girl to create children and nothing more. A man and man getting together is love but not marriage, and same to a woman and woman. Heterosexual marriage is on its way out, have no idea why homosexuals or bisexuals care about this outdated social construct so much.
by Cekoviu » Mon May 20, 2019 11:19 am
Heloin wrote:Akrisen wrote:
Well that is what marriage is the sexual union between a boy or girl to create children and nothing more. A man and man getting together is love but not marriage, and same to a woman and woman. Heterosexual marriage is on its way out, have no idea why homosexuals or bisexuals care about this outdated social construct so much.
Children shouldn't get married to each other. May led to an outbreak of cooties.
by Hammer Britannia » Mon May 20, 2019 11:24 am
by Cekoviu » Mon May 20, 2019 11:25 am
Hammer Britannia wrote:The amount of summer posters trying to be Ben Shapiro 2.0 on this thread is kinda funny TBH
They're still wrong. Gay love is still a great thing, along with straight love.
by Hammer Britannia » Mon May 20, 2019 11:26 am
by Farnhamia » Mon May 20, 2019 11:28 am
Akrisen wrote:Farnhamia wrote:Times change. People change. It happens.
Im not calling it bad, I am saying there is no point to the concept of marriage if children are not generated. Humans are by nature polygamous we have sex with many partners casually, monogamy is a construct of organized society and mainly happened due to one boy and one girl creating children.
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