What is your opinion on LGBT+ marriage?

[Heloin]

Probably best you just ignore him.

I want to prevent him from being banned.

Fair enough, but look at his posting history. I very much doubt it's an account made in good faith.

[Feudal Bulgaria]

I understand your lame comeback to the other guy's response but you have to consider in mind that the word degeneracy was made by the nazis for people that support faggis like you so might as well stop using it cuz it isnt making sense.

Calling someone a "faggi" is begging to be banned.

Yea sure cuz that is what you ajws all play the victim annd get someone banned cuz you cant debate him...and you are trying to think but fail everytime hahahah i mean what best way to describe you thanks for not making me do this...ohh wait i said"you" that might be very oppressive man i am sorry..wait "man" what happens i meant people cuz you know what your leader trudeu said not mankind its peoplekind how dare i ina such colourfull diverse world full off degenerate...i meant oppressive (yea that was the world) censorship for only white people...mmm i meant nonminority people(cuz appearently south africa doesnt exist) me to say that..just unforgiving.(i hope you see the sarcasm if your ped.. I meant"community" still has any humour left.

[Feudal Bulgaria]

I want to prevent him from being banned.

Fair enough, but look at his posting history. I very much doubt it's an account made in good faith.

Nah i aint here to spam fam just opinions on opinions nothing more game playing and civil stuff you know for the offended well they can say why they get offended and we will have that discussion easy peasy if i wanted to be troll i wouldnt be here.

[Tankmen]

Ban religion while keeping one's personal spirituality in the privacy of their homes untouched.

What possible reason could you have to decimate the hearts and souls of more than 50% of the population? Are you aware this would mean shutting down every peaceful place of worship, burning every holy book, restricting every necklace, scratching every symbol, shredding the first amendment and every principle it was founded upon?

Could it be the fact that they exploit vulnerable people for profit by selling bullshit ideas, or their penchant for child molestation, or their egregious treatment of minority members in their ranks to the point of breaking families, or the emotional, psychological, sexual, even physical abuse that they practice, or their opposition to science as well as scientific and societal progress, or the acts of terror inspired by them, or the use of """""alternative""""" (read: unscientific) medicine or denial of certain medical procedures to their members, or that religion is born into and not chosen or the overall degradation of social integrity and the division religion causes to keep its position of power and the capital they accumulate in each of their societies by redirecting justified class antagonisms towards the irreligious, their religious rivals, women and minorities?

Are you aware that you could literally just go to any other public space, read any other literature, wear any other jewellery, use any other symbol, finally update your constitution into something sensible and hold literally any other set of principles that wasn't founded by vaguely irreligious and secular genociders of the native population and slavers of non-whites?

"Religious freedom" is in practice just freedom for religions to keep and exercise their power. There is no freedom from religion regardless of legislation affirming it clearly which the first amendment does not, if it holds sociocultural power and is part of an ideological hegemony. If you want freedom from religion (I do), you have to combat this illegitimate power religion holds and secularism fails to address this problem. In the United States and the State of Israel, for instance, secularism means fuck all with a deeply religious society and culture.

Making ones own spiritual and philosophical identity instead of having it imposed upon them by coercion fulfills the rights to free opinion, conscience and belief. Allowing religion to exist will infringe upon all of those rights and freedoms alongside a lot more, with other adverse societal effects.

[San Lumen]

I have a few questions for the opponents of same sex marriage

firstly why does it matter to you as it does not affect your marriage

Many cite the Bible yet claim that Old Testament law does not apply to modern Christians due to the Council of Jerusalem? Is that not hypocritical or contradictory?

[Wunderstrafanstalt]

Would be fair to ask that, I don't see how discussing "Can A be B" is possible without knowing what "B" is.

It's a fair question to ask.

I mean, I know my view of marriage -- a contract between two freely consenting adults who love one another, designed to build a stable relationship, ideally for life (and possibly with a religious aspect if those individuals so desire).

But I've seen arguments that marriage is only for reproduction, only for tax benefits and only for the glory of God.

So, there are other interpretations.

https://www.slatergordon.co.uk/media-ce ... rtnership/

Reading that, I would argue that "marriage" in the government's eye (which is what matters as the law is read by legal means): some kind of institution between people to give them certain kinds of things (parental responsibility, inheritance, social security, etc). Reasons for marriage (e.g. God's glory, to reproduce) is put on the same place with other kinds of usual reasons (e.g she's hot).

Civil partnership is an interim step towards marriage.

If marriage is viewed like that, then yea LGBT+ definitely has the right to marry.

[Deutschess Kaiserreich]

Fair enough, but look at his posting history. I very much doubt it's an account made in good faith.

Nah i aint here to spam fam just opinions on opinions nothing more game playing and civil stuff you know for the offended well they can say why they get offended and we will have that discussion easy peasy if i wanted to be troll i wouldnt be here.

Please, I beg you to use full stops so I may process the noises coming out of your mouth.

[Estanglia]

I support LGBT+ marriage. As long as it's between consenting adults, I don't care who you marry.

[Feudal Bulgaria]

I have a few questions for the proponents of same sex marriage

firstly why does it matter to you as it does not affect your marriage

Many cite the Bible yet claim that Old Testament law does not apply to modern Christians due to the Council of Jerusalem? Is that not hypocritical or contradictory?

Very good question.. soo it is cuz it corrupts the minds of young children who are not mentally prwpared for critisism or rational thinking on topics like these.Being one you may think you do nothing (even if not openly encouraging it) but it will come time when this will become normall everyday desicion base on the individual actions of the people before.A gay nonpromiting gayness cuople for example wiil adopt children and raise them this way..they will have friends who based on their character wiil think "well if thwy are a good human their stances on other things might be good too" and from them their friends..you get it that even some of the smaalest things make big change in history.

[Wunderstrafanstalt]

I have a few questions for the proponents of same sex marriage

firstly why does it matter to you as it does not affect your marriage

It affect my friend's life, and millions of others too.

Many cite the Bible yet claim that Old Testament law does not apply to modern Christians due to the Council of Jerusalem? Is that not hypocritical or contradictory?

Idk about that. I for one don't believe in Christianity, so it's not my problem.

[Heloin]

I have a few questions for the proponents of same sex marriage

firstly why does it matter to you as it does not affect your marriage

Many cite the Bible yet claim that Old Testament law does not apply to modern Christians due to the Council of Jerusalem? Is that not hypocritical or contradictory?

Um do you mean proponents or opponents?

[San Lumen]

I have a few questions for the proponents of same sex marriage

firstly why does it matter to you as it does not affect your marriage

Many cite the Bible yet claim that Old Testament law does not apply to modern Christians due to the Council of Jerusalem? Is that not hypocritical or contradictory?

Very good question.. soo it is cuz it corrupts the minds of young children who are not mentally prwpared for critisism or rational thinking on topics like these.Being one you may think you do nothing (even if not openly encouraging it) but it will come time when this will become normall everyday desicion base on the individual actions of the people before.A gay nonpromiting gayness cuople for example wiil adopt children and raise them this way..they will have friends who based on their character wiil think "well if thwy are a good human their stances on other things might be good too" and from them their friends..you get it that even some of the smaalest things make big change in history.

Complete and utter nonsense.

One does not choose to be gay.

I went to college with someone who was raised by a gay couple. They are the only family he's ever known. He is not gay.

[San Lumen]

I have a few questions for the proponents of same sex marriage

firstly why does it matter to you as it does not affect your marriage

Many cite the Bible yet claim that Old Testament law does not apply to modern Christians due to the Council of Jerusalem? Is that not hypocritical or contradictory?

Um do you mean proponents or opponents?

meant opponents sorry.

[Feudal Bulgaria]

Nah i aint here to spam fam just opinions on opinions nothing more game playing and civil stuff you know for the offended well they can say why they get offended and we will have that discussion easy peasy if i wanted to be troll i wouldnt be here.

Please, I beg you to use full stops so I may process the noises coming out of your mouth.

I dont know if you are trying to be funny and interesting or just butthurt about my opinion but you could have asked nicely and i would have kept in mind your request.

[Heloin]

Um do you mean proponents or opponents?

meant opponents sorry.

It's cool.

I was really confused with the two questions for a second though

[Wunderstrafanstalt]

I have a few questions for the proponents of same sex marriage

firstly why does it matter to you as it does not affect your marriage

Many cite the Bible yet claim that Old Testament law does not apply to modern Christians due to the Council of Jerusalem? Is that not hypocritical or contradictory?

Very good question.. soo it is cuz it corrupts the minds of young children who are not mentally prwpared for critisism or rational thinking on topics like these.Being one you may think you do nothing (even if not openly encouraging it) but it will come time when this will become normall everyday desicion base on the individual actions of the people before.A gay nonpromiting gayness cuople for example wiil adopt children and raise them this way..they will have friends who based on their character wiil think "well if thwy are a good human their stances on other things might be good too" and from them their friends..you get it that even some of the smaalest things make big change in history.

Flip the coin. Turns out, indoctrination of any kind is bad.

[Futustan]

13% are retards

[Feudal Bulgaria]

Very good question.. soo it is cuz it corrupts the minds of young children who are not mentally prwpared for critisism or rational thinking on topics like these.Being one you may think you do nothing (even if not openly encouraging it) but it will come time when this will become normall everyday desicion base on the individual actions of the people before.A gay nonpromiting gayness cuople for example wiil adopt children and raise them this way..they will have friends who based on their character wiil think "well if thwy are a good human their stances on other things might be good too" and from them their friends..you get it that even some of the smaalest things make big change in history.

Complete and utter nonsense.

One does not choose to be gay.

I went to college with someone who was raised by a gay couple. They are the only family he's ever known. He is not gay.

Choosing is a matter of perception i think it is you dont and that is fine.Now you may know some people but are those all of of the cases-no.I didnt said 100 percent it is happening like i meant.I meant in probably the most cases.You asked everyone for their opinion i gave mine so you could atleast be respecfull enough to not write "this is trash nonsense.."without even engaging in debate.

[The Blaatschapen]

But people don't need to be part of a religion to get married. Marriage isn't necessarily a religious thing.

Which begs the question: what's marriage?

It's when two people feel insecure about their relationship so that they have to involve the authorities.

[San Lumen]

Complete and utter nonsense.

One does not choose to be gay.

I went to college with someone who was raised by a gay couple. They are the only family he's ever known. He is not gay.

Choosing is a matter of perception i think it is you dont and that is fine.Now you may know some people but are those all of of the cases-no.I didnt said 100 percent it is happening like i meant.I meant in probably the most cases.You asked everyone for their opinion i gave mine so you could atleast be respecfull enough to not write "this is trash nonsense.."without even engaging in debate.

There is no evidence of LGBT parents forcing their kids to be gay or LGBT people trying to corrupt young minds. Your implying its a choice.

Give a source for your claim.

[Feudal Bulgaria]

Very good question.. soo it is cuz it corrupts the minds of young children who are not mentally prwpared for critisism or rational thinking on topics like these.Being one you may think you do nothing (even if not openly encouraging it) but it will come time when this will become normall everyday desicion base on the individual actions of the people before.A gay nonpromiting gayness cuople for example wiil adopt children and raise them this way..they will have friends who based on their character wiil think "well if thwy are a good human their stances on other things might be good too" and from them their friends..you get it that even some of the smaalest things make big change in history.

Flip the coin. Turns out, indoctrination of any kind is bad.

Maybe but i was stating that this type cn happen and occur.

[Feudal Bulgaria]

Choosing is a matter of perception i think it is you dont and that is fine.Now you may know some people but are those all of of the cases-no.I didnt said 100 percent it is happening like i meant.I meant in probably the most cases.You asked everyone for their opinion i gave mine so you could atleast be respecfull enough to not write "this is trash nonsense.."without even engaging in debate.

There is no evidence of LGBT parents forcing their kids to be gay or LGBT people trying to corrupt young minds. Your implying its a choice.

Give a source for your claim.

I did not wrote forcing cuz they will be in jail of course i wrote changing the ming of the child.For example in Norway now there is a practise in which if the parent does even a little bit of harm to the kid even if the kid thinks its not the police hte government mor correctly will give him to other parents for adopting many of which cases are that they are being put into a gay family intentionally.Now the article is in my native language and you wouldnt understand it (forgot to mention the mother in one of the cases with taken chil went to a show of really popular in our nation comedian his name is slavi trivonov and told him the story i know that there was one other person that went there with the same story so 2 if not more cases only from my country) to see the article just search bulgarian family having taken child from norway and you will probably see the story).You dont know about it cuz in the us aint like that but will soon become with this mainstream political orientation of theirs or yours if you are from ther.

[Deutschess Kaiserreich]

I have a few questions for the proponents of same sex marriage

firstly why does it matter to you as it does not affect your marriage

Many cite the Bible yet claim that Old Testament law does not apply to modern Christians due to the Council of Jerusalem? Is that not hypocritical or contradictory?

Very good question.. soo it is cuz it corrupts the minds of young children who are not mentally prwpared for critisism or rational thinking on topics like these.Being one you may think you do nothing (even if not openly encouraging it) but it will come time when this will become normall everyday desicion base on the individual actions of the people before.A gay nonpromiting gayness cuople for example wiil adopt children and raise them this way..they will have friends who based on their character wiil think "well if thwy are a good human their stances on other things might be good too" and from them their friends..you get it that even some of the smaalest things make big change in history.

https://www.grammarly.com/

[Lamaredia]

There is no evidence of LGBT parents forcing their kids to be gay or LGBT people trying to corrupt young minds. Your implying its a choice.

Give a source for your claim.

I did not wrote forcing cuz they will be in jail of course i wrote changing the ming of the child.

Being gay is not something you can choose though, that's where your entire argument falls apart. You are born with your future specific sexual orientation, otherwise, why would there be homosexual people in countries where they would be killed for their orientation?

[San Lumen]

There is no evidence of LGBT parents forcing their kids to be gay or LGBT people trying to corrupt young minds. Your implying its a choice.

Give a source for your claim.

I did not wrote forcing cuz they will be in jail of course i wrote changing the ming of the child.

They are not. Its not a choice.