What is your opinion on LGBT+ marriage?

[Heloin]

In what western sense? Because marriage as a concept is very old, unless you're suggesting Romans didn't marry. Islam is part of the Abrahamic faiths along with Judaism and Christianity. And you clearly don't know anything about any African traditional faiths if you think they have negative attitudes towards homosexuality.

You know what, apart from some South African family I do have little knowledge of African attitudes to that kind of thing. Seeing as you're a proud Zimbabwean, what would be your... I guess overview of how traditional African culture views homosexuality? I'm actually interested to learn as I was always told by aforementioned family that it wasn't liked.

Very pro-homosexuality. Men and women were expected and encouraged to have partners of the same sex, and some people would get same sex marriages. It was the arrival of Christian missionaries that brought an end to this along with colonial crackdowns of homosexual acts. A century of colonial laws and the rise recently of Evangelical Americans heading to Africa that have caused the massive spike anti-LGBT laws being enforced in mass.

[The New California Republic]

Marriage is a Juedo-Christian tradition

Not a good start.

that has been between a man and a woman for as long as it has been practiced. Regardless of what progressives think, religious people have a right to maintain their religion how they see fit, and religious leaders/people do NOT have to agree with your homosexuality, much less recognize it in a holy ceremony of their faith.

Gay marriage is wrong, most gays aren't religious anyway so get a damn civil union and act like the rest of us.

Other religions exist. I know it may come as a shock to you, but it's true.

[The Xenopolis Confederation]

You know what, apart from some South African family I do have little knowledge of African attitudes to that kind of thing. Seeing as you're a proud Zimbabwean, what would be your... I guess overview of how traditional African culture views homosexuality? I'm actually interested to learn as I was always told by aforementioned family that it wasn't liked.

Very pro-homosexuality. Men and women were expected and encouraged to have partners of the same sex, and some people would get same sex marriages. It was the arrival of Christian missionaries that brought an end to this along with colonial crackdowns of homosexual acts. A century of colonial laws and the rise recently of Evangelical Americans heading to Africa that have caused the massive spike anti-LGBT laws being enforced in mass.

Interesting. Would recent anti-LGBT bills in African countries such as Uganda's bill then mean that that's a result of American Evangelicalism? Or is it a combination of factors in your eyes?

[The reformed state of koningrad]

I love Luigi's big titties less jokey I'm straight but I don't care what others do. Have fun!

[Totally Not OEP]

I'm ardently opposed to it, as I see it as a degenerate practice that is an affront to my faith.

Aww diddums. Shame that not everyone shares your faith.

With this in mind, It should be made illegal and the interest groups supporting it should be disbanded with expressions of support suppressed likewise.

What a load of oppressive shit to save your feefees.

For particularly troublesome elements, and undoubtedly such will exist, they will most likely have to be suppressed by military force and imprisoned

That shit can fuck right off.

Thank you for your support.

[The New California Republic]

Aww diddums. Shame that not everyone shares your faith.

What a load of oppressive shit to save your feefees.

That shit can fuck right off.

Thank you for your support.

Support? Ha.

[Andsed]

I'm ardently opposed to it, as I see it as a degenerate practice that is an affront to my faith. With this in mind, It should be made illegal and the interest groups supporting it should be disbanded with expressions of support suppressed likewise. For particularly troublesome elements, and undoubtedly such will exist, they will most likely have to be suppressed by military force and imprisoned; I have no desire to create martyrs. We live in an age where the NSA literally taps into most phones and people who are in support of such can easily be discerned by a simple review of their social media. That's actually a chief irony of the freedom of speech provided by the Internet, in that it does allow for it but also creates an easily found trail that can be utilized, as suggested here, but I digress.

Are you serious right now? I did not think someone could be this homophobic and willing to oppress millions because they think two people of the same gender dating is icky but here we are I guess.

[Battlion]

I support it... because I want to be able to get married.... and not have some heterosexuals tell me that I can’t.

[The New California Republic]

I'm ardently opposed to it, as I see it as a degenerate practice that is an affront to my faith. With this in mind, It should be made illegal and the interest groups supporting it should be disbanded with expressions of support suppressed likewise. For particularly troublesome elements, and undoubtedly such will exist, they will most likely have to be suppressed by military force and imprisoned; I have no desire to create martyrs. We live in an age where the NSA literally taps into most phones and people who are in support of such can easily be discerned by a simple review of their social media. That's actually a chief irony of the freedom of speech provided by the Internet, in that it does allow for it but also creates an easily found trail that can be utilized, as suggested here, but I digress.

Are you serious right now? I did not think someone could be this homophobic and willing to oppress millions because they think two people of the same gender dating is icky but here we are I guess.

OEP has had this homophobic and extremist attitude for a long time, for shame.

[Wunderstrafanstalt]

Define marriage. Civil partnership for any people = support, next question. Grey zone is when, say, christian LGBT+ people want to have marriage in their church/religious institution.

[Drongonia]

I'm ardently opposed to it, as I see it as a degenerate practice that is an affront to my faith. With this in mind, It should be made illegal and the interest groups supporting it should be disbanded with expressions of support suppressed likewise. For particularly troublesome elements, and undoubtedly such will exist, they will most likely have to be suppressed by military force and imprisoned; I have no desire to create martyrs. We live in an age where the NSA literally taps into most phones and people who are in support of such can easily be discerned by a simple review of their social media. That's actually a chief irony of the freedom of speech provided by the Internet, in that it does allow for it but also creates an easily found trail that can be utilized, as suggested here, but I digress.

Okay so you can have your own opinions, and be ardently opposed to it, and even be homophobic as part of your own personal beliefs. But how dare you propose imprisonment for anyone opposing your viewpoint? It's not like these people are calling for heterosexuals to be killed or something. This debate is one for the church, public sphere and the political roundtable, NOT the judicial system.

I hate that more socially conservative people get associated with stuff like this. As someone who opposes gay marriage, even I could only ever go so far. Impinging on one person/group's right to freedom of thought/expression is never right, even if you see it as securing your own.

[Andsed]

Are you serious right now? I did not think someone could be this homophobic and willing to oppress millions because they think two people of the same gender dating is icky but here we are I guess.

OEP has had this homophobic and extremist attitude for a long time, for shame.

Oh I know I´m just taking the piss out of it since this stuff is so homophobic and extreme I cannot I take it seriously.

[The Xenopolis Confederation]

Aww diddums. Shame that not everyone shares your faith.


What a load of oppressive shit to save your feefees.


That shit can fuck right off.

Thank you for your support.

Forgive me for this wooooooosh, but I fail to see what was supportive about NCR's reply.

[Totally Not OEP]

I'm ardently opposed to it, as I see it as a degenerate practice that is an affront to my faith. With this in mind, It should be made illegal and the interest groups supporting it should be disbanded with expressions of support suppressed likewise. For particularly troublesome elements, and undoubtedly such will exist, they will most likely have to be suppressed by military force and imprisoned; I have no desire to create martyrs. We live in an age where the NSA literally taps into most phones and people who are in support of such can easily be discerned by a simple review of their social media. That's actually a chief irony of the freedom of speech provided by the Internet, in that it does allow for it but also creates an easily found trail that can be utilized, as suggested here, but I digress.

Okay so you can have your own opinions, and be ardently opposed to it, and even be homophobic as part of your own personal beliefs. But how dare you propose imprisonment for anyone opposing your viewpoint? It's not like these people are calling for heterosexuals to be killed or something. This debate is one for the church, public sphere and the political roundtable, NOT the judicial system.

I hate that more socially conservative people get associated with stuff like this. As someone who opposes gay marriage, even I could only ever go so far. Impinging on one person/group's right to freedom of thought/expression is never right, even if you see it as securing your own.

I do dare and do so happily with extreme prejudice because this exact thinking is why Gay Marriage is even a thing; Boomer Conservatism is perhaps the biggest failure to ever be witnessed in contemporary American politics.

[Totally Not OEP]

I'm ardently opposed to it, as I see it as a degenerate practice that is an affront to my faith. With this in mind, It should be made illegal and the interest groups supporting it should be disbanded with expressions of support suppressed likewise. For particularly troublesome elements, and undoubtedly such will exist, they will most likely have to be suppressed by military force and imprisoned; I have no desire to create martyrs. We live in an age where the NSA literally taps into most phones and people who are in support of such can easily be discerned by a simple review of their social media. That's actually a chief irony of the freedom of speech provided by the Internet, in that it does allow for it but also creates an easily found trail that can be utilized, as suggested here, but I digress.

Are you serious right now? I did not think someone could be this homophobic and willing to oppress millions because they think two people of the same gender dating is icky but here we are I guess.

Yes, are we going to have something relevant now or are you going to keep restating what has already been said?

[Drongonia]

Okay so you can have your own opinions, and be ardently opposed to it, and even be homophobic as part of your own personal beliefs. But how dare you propose imprisonment for anyone opposing your viewpoint? It's not like these people are calling for heterosexuals to be killed or something. This debate is one for the church, public sphere and the political roundtable, NOT the judicial system.

I hate that more socially conservative people get associated with stuff like this. As someone who opposes gay marriage, even I could only ever go so far. Impinging on one person/group's right to freedom of thought/expression is never right, even if you see it as securing your own.

I do dare and do so happily with extreme prejudice because this exact thinking is why Gay Marriage is even a thing; Boomer Conservatism is perhaps the biggest failure to ever be witnessed in contemporary American politics.

So you'd happily live in a society where the ability to suppress people on belief alone existed under law? Remember that if the far-left was ever to take power, you would be able to be imprisoned because you basically said "MUH MURREGE"

[Wunderstrafanstalt]

I'm ardently opposed to it, as I see it as a degenerate practice that is an affront to my faith. With this in mind, It should be made illegal and the interest groups supporting it should be disbanded with expressions of support suppressed likewise. For particularly troublesome elements, and undoubtedly such will exist, they will most likely have to be suppressed by military force and imprisoned; I have no desire to create martyrs. We live in an age where the NSA literally taps into most phones and people who are in support of such can easily be discerned by a simple review of their social media. That's actually a chief irony of the freedom of speech provided by the Internet, in that it does allow for it but also creates an easily found trail that can be utilized, as suggested here, but I digress.

-I see it as a degenerate practice that is an affront to my faith
-It should be made illegal and the interest groups supporting it should be disbanded with expressions of support suppressed

Tfw religious wackos around my neighborhood is still smart enough to cite "HIV spread" as their primary reason on opposing LGBT+. Still a fuckingly stupid reason, but better nevertheless as it is at least backed up with (((""scientific reason""))).

[The Xenopolis Confederation]

Okay so you can have your own opinions, and be ardently opposed to it, and even be homophobic as part of your own personal beliefs. But how dare you propose imprisonment for anyone opposing your viewpoint? It's not like these people are calling for heterosexuals to be killed or something. This debate is one for the church, public sphere and the political roundtable, NOT the judicial system.

I hate that more socially conservative people get associated with stuff like this. As someone who opposes gay marriage, even I could only ever go so far. Impinging on one person/group's right to freedom of thought/expression is never right, even if you see it as securing your own.

I do dare and do so happily with extreme prejudice because this exact thinking is why Gay Marriage is even a thing; Boomer Conservatism is perhaps the biggest failure to ever be witnessed in contemporary American politics.

What was it in Drongonia's post that you compare with boomer conservatism? A distate for extremism? An opposition to government overreach? Support of freedom of though & expression?

If these are marks of failure for any ideology, than surely marks of that ideology's success would be nightmarish.

[Andsed]

Are you serious right now? I did not think someone could be this homophobic and willing to oppress millions because they think two people of the same gender dating is icky but here we are I guess.

Yes, are we going to have something relevant now or are you going to keep restating what has already been said?

Depends. Are you going to point out an actual sensible reason why homosexuality is bad?

[Drongonia]

I do dare and do so happily with extreme prejudice because this exact thinking is why Gay Marriage is even a thing; Boomer Conservatism is perhaps the biggest failure to ever be witnessed in contemporary American politics.

What was it in Drongonia's post that you compare with boomer conservatism? A distate for extremism? An opposition to government overreach? Support of freedom of though & expression?

If these are marks of failure for any ideology, than surely marks of that ideology's success would be nightmarish.

In the grand scheme of things, people on the extreme left and right are equally awful. Not OEP doesn't understand that (he?) might one day become the subject of such draconian legislation.

[Wunderstrafanstalt]

I do dare and do so happily with extreme prejudice because this exact thinking is why Gay Marriage is even a thing; Boomer Conservatism is perhaps the biggest failure to ever be witnessed in contemporary American politics.

So you'd happily live in a society where the ability to suppress people on belief alone existed under law? Remember that if the far-left was ever to take power, you would be able to be imprisoned because you basically said "MUH MURREGE"

Luckily those kinds of thing never happens. Oh wait

Yes, are we going to have something relevant now or are you going to keep restating what has already been said?

Depends. Are you going to point out an actual sensible reason why homosexuality is bad?

He already did, at least by his standard (using the great "I don't like X" argument)

[Evil Dictators Happyland]

What was it in Drongonia's post that you compare with boomer conservatism? A distate for extremism? An opposition to government overreach? Support of freedom of though & expression?

If these are marks of failure for any ideology, than surely marks of that ideology's success would be nightmarish.

In the grand scheme of things, people on the extreme left and right are equally awful. Not OEP doesn't understand that (he?) might one day become the subject of such draconian legislation.

Yeah but the point OEP is arguing against is far less extreme than his(?).

[Evil Dictators Happyland]

Depends. Are you going to point out an actual sensible reason why homosexuality is bad?

He already did, at least by his standard (using the great "I don't like X" argument)

If your standard is low enough, it might as well not exist.

[Ifreann]

Yes, are we going to have something relevant now or are you going to keep restating what has already been said?

Depends. Are you going to point out an actual sensible reason why homosexuality is bad?

Having gay sex destroys the white race.

[Drongonia]

Depends. Are you going to point out an actual sensible reason why homosexuality is bad?

Having gay sex destroys the white race.

This is true. The white race is being depopulated by homosexuality, and in conjunction with the fact we're already outbred in our own countries by the races we let in...

However, if we want a race to survive, we should have more babies rather than persecuting those who don't want to.