What is your opinion on LGBT+ marriage?

[Heloin]

Which begs the question: what's marriage?

It's when two people feel insecure about their relationship so that they have to involve the authorities.

Love and marriage, love and marriage
They go together like a horse and carriage
This I tell you, brother
You can't have one without the other

[Chetch]

Although I am heterosexual, I believe that all people should be able to express their love no matter what gender they are. Spread the love to everyone

[Wunderstrafanstalt]

I did not wrote forcing cuz they will be in jail of course i wrote changing the ming of the child.

Being gay is not something you can choose though, that's where your entire argument falls apart. You are born with your future specific sexual orientation, otherwise, why would there be homosexual people in countries where they would be killed for their orientation?

It's not clear and cut like 2+2=4, being LGBT is like being on a spectrum or gradation. But genetics, epigenetics, and hormone exposure is very influental at a baby's sexuality nevertheless.

[Feudal Bulgaria]

I did not wrote forcing cuz they will be in jail of course i wrote changing the ming of the child.

Being gay is not something you can choose though, that's where your entire argument falls apart. You are born with your future specific sexual orientation, otherwise, why would there be homosexual people in countries where they would be killed for their orientation?

You know that before the middle of the 20th century every nonbiased psychologist considered it a mentall illness right?If not believing that how can you explaint the boom in the growing of these people which began in the 60s.Before that barely anyone had this stuff on mind.

[San Lumen]

Being gay is not something you can choose though, that's where your entire argument falls apart. You are born with your future specific sexual orientation, otherwise, why would there be homosexual people in countries where they would be killed for their orientation?

You know that before the middle of the 20th century every nonbiased psychologist considered it a mentall illness right?If not believing that how can you explaint the boom in the growing of these people which began in the 60s.Before that barely anyone had this stuff on mind.

People can be wrong. It was determined not to be a mental illness. Before that you couldn't be openly gay in many places. It was frowned upon.

There have been gay people for millennia. Alexander the Great was gay. Its been speculated by many presidential scholars that President James Buchanan might have been gay and he had an intimate relationship with Senator Rufus King.

[Cekoviu]

Being gay is not something you can choose though, that's where your entire argument falls apart. You are born with your future specific sexual orientation, otherwise, why would there be homosexual people in countries where they would be killed for their orientation?

You know that before the middle of the 20th century every nonbiased psychologist considered it a mentall illness right?If not believing that how can you explaint the boom in the growing of these people which began in the 60s.Before that barely anyone had this stuff on mind.

Because people aren't murdered for it as much now?

[Heloin]

Being gay is not something you can choose though, that's where your entire argument falls apart. You are born with your future specific sexual orientation, otherwise, why would there be homosexual people in countries where they would be killed for their orientation?

You know that before the middle of the 20th century every nonbiased psychologist considered it a mentall illness right?If not believing that how can you explaint the boom in the growing of these people which began in the 60s.Before that barely anyone had this stuff on mind.

1.They were wrong.
2. Because it would get you sent to prison or killed before then.
3. Completely false https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/LGBT_history

[Feudal Bulgaria]

You know that before the middle of the 20th century every nonbiased psychologist considered it a mentall illness right?If not believing that how can you explaint the boom in the growing of these people which began in the 60s.Before that barely anyone had this stuff on mind.

People can be wrong. It was determined not to be a mental illness. Before that you couldn't be openly gay in many places. It was frowned upon.

There have been gay people for millennia. Alexander the Great was gay. Its been speculated by many presidential scholars that President James Buchanan might have been gay and he had an intimate relationship with Senator Rufus King.

Yes exactly before super minority after boom like that is cuz of growing population in the world i dont think so.They became many when it was considered normal and popular.Haha they make mistakes and why the suden change of mind cuz political bias that is why.And befir writing that for the same reason it was considered mentally ill.Tgere were psycologists that thought that it was not even before the 60s(minority tgough) cuz they had to start from somewhere right.Before those psycologists were considered lunatic and in the 60s all of the sudden they all become what they considered was lunacy.Strange huh

[Lamaredia]

Being gay is not something you can choose though, that's where your entire argument falls apart. You are born with your future specific sexual orientation, otherwise, why would there be homosexual people in countries where they would be killed for their orientation?

You know that before the middle of the 20th century every nonbiased psychologist considered it a mentall illness right?If not believing that how can you explaint the boom in the growing of these people which began in the 60s.Before that barely anyone had this stuff on mind.

That's blatantly false though. We have a lot of evidence of homosexuality in ancient culture, not the least of which in the Roman Empire and Greece where it was openly practiced by a not insignificant portion of the populace.

The fact that psychologists considered it a mental illness in the early 20th century is completely irrelevant, as it was based on the religious foundation that society sadly was functioning on at that point.

EDIT: Also, as another poster has pointed out before me, people were lynched, tortured, murdered and other horrible things, so they kept it secret in nations where it was illegal and frowned upon.

[Feudal Bulgaria]

You know that before the middle of the 20th century every nonbiased psychologist considered it a mentall illness right?If not believing that how can you explaint the boom in the growing of these people which began in the 60s.Before that barely anyone had this stuff on mind.

1.They were wrong.
2. Because it would get you sent to prison or killed before then.
3. Completely false https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/LGBT_history

Killed?This is the us not nazi germany.If sent prison before how there were still some before that it had to happen from the start somehow to grow that big right the policy changes sure help but if not any psycologists in there how could they change so quickly and rapidly.Yeah false cuz you give me wikipedia article haha.Couldnt you be more biased.Of course the wikis will be on their side cuz otherwise institutions will shut down the site.

[The Xenopolis Confederation]

What possible reason could you have to decimate the hearts and souls of more than 50% of the population? Are you aware this would mean shutting down every peaceful place of worship, burning every holy book, restricting every necklace, scratching every symbol, shredding the first amendment and every principle it was founded upon?

Could it be the fact that they exploit vulnerable people for profit by selling bullshit ideas, or their penchant for child molestation, or their egregious treatment of minority members in their ranks to the point of breaking families, or the emotional, psychological, sexual, even physical abuse that they practice, or their opposition to science as well as scientific and societal progress, or the acts of terror inspired by them, or the use of """""alternative""""" (read: unscientific) medicine or denial of certain medical procedures to their members, or that religion is born into and not chosen or the overall degradation of social integrity and the division religion causes to keep its position of power and the capital they accumulate in each of their societies by redirecting justified class antagonisms towards the irreligious, their religious rivals, women and minorities?

Are you aware that you could literally just go to any other public space, read any other literature, wear any other jewellery, use any other symbol, finally update your constitution into something sensible and hold literally any other set of principles that wasn't founded by vaguely irreligious and secular genociders of the native population and slavers of non-whites?

"Religious freedom" is in practice just freedom for religions to keep and exercise their power. There is no freedom from religion regardless of legislation affirming it clearly which the first amendment does not, if it holds sociocultural power and is part of an ideological hegemony. If you want freedom from religion (I do), you have to combat this illegitimate power religion holds and secularism fails to address this problem. In the United States and the State of Israel, for instance, secularism means fuck all with a deeply religious society and culture.

Making ones own spiritual and philosophical identity instead of having it imposed upon them by coercion fulfills the rights to free opinion, conscience and belief. Allowing religion to exist will infringe upon all of those rights and freedoms alongside a lot more, with other adverse societal effects.

Ah yes, the "you disagree with me, so you must be lying and exploiting" trick. Classy. Religion does not inherenly mean pedophilia, or child abuse, or any form of physical or psychological abuse, or anti-vaxxer level science denial, or terrorism, or bigotry & divisive rhetoric. I was raised as religious, and I decided it wasn't for me, religion IS a choice.

Yes, I could read any other literature, sport any other symbol or visit any other building but I can't read the Bible, I can't wear the star of david, and I can't visit a Mosque. That's a problem. I gigantic problem. I find "congres shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion nor prohibiting its free practice thereof to be very sensible indeed, regardless of its writers' views or actions on race and slavery.

There is freedom from religion as long as you are not being compelled by the state or forced by an individual to believe in a religion, regardless of the sociocultural influence of religion outside of that. I am an atheist, and I feel relatively free from religion in my country because I live in a secular country, one with religious freedom. Banning religion is a lot farther than fighting illegitimate power unless you believe that saying "God is great" in public is weilding illegitimate power. In a deeply religious but secular society, the only thing you can do is advocate atheism, and gradually reform society. Somethings take time. Banning religion in a deeply religious society would only cause mass misery and mass rebellion.

Where is the coercion in secularism? Are you trying to tell me secularism is more coercive than banning all religion? Imagine thinking that banning religion makes you more free to forge your philosophical and spiritual identity, what a joke.

[Lamaredia]

1.They were wrong.
2. Because it would get you sent to prison or killed before then.
3. Completely false https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/LGBT_history

Killed?This is the us not nazi germany.If sent prison before how there were still some before that it had to happen from the start somehow to grow that big right the policy changes sure help but if not any psycologists in there how could they change so quickly and rapidly.Yeah false cuz you give me wikipedia article haha.Couldnt you be more biased.Of course the wikis will be on their side cuz otherwise institutions will shut down the site.

What does Nazi Germany have to do with anything? People were regularly lynched, tortured, hung, burnt at the stake etc. for a variety of things in the US all the way up to the 1960's. Hell, people are still being victims today of lynchings and murders because of their skin-colour and sexuality.

And "institutions" will shut down Wikipedia? Man, what are you even talking about? First of all, Wikipedia is completely independs of any state entity in the world. Second of all, there's sources at the bottom of the article where you can read about the history of LGBT-people in the world. People have always been gay, bi, trans etc., its just that at various points in history its been illegal and unsafe to express it, which is why you think that its something that only appeared recently.

[Feudal Bulgaria]

Killed?This is the us not nazi germany.If sent prison before how there were still some before that it had to happen from the start somehow to grow that big right the policy changes sure help but if not any psycologists in there how could they change so quickly and rapidly.Yeah false cuz you give me wikipedia article haha.Couldnt you be more biased.Of course the wikis will be on their side cuz otherwise institutions will shut down the site.

What does Nazi Germany have to do with anything? People were regularly lynched, tortured, hung, burnt at the stake etc. for a variety of things in the US all the way up to the 1960's. Hell, people are still being victims today of lynchings and murders because of their skin-colour and sexuality.

And "institutions" will shut down Wikipedia? Man, what are you even talking about? First of all, Wikipedia is completely independs of any state entity in the world. Second of all, there's sources at the bottom of the article where you can read about the history of LGBT-people in the world. People have always been gay, bi, trans etc., its just that at various points in history its been illegal and unsafe to express it, which is why you think that its something that only appeared recently.

About the psychological history nah many were openly pro for this just were minority that is all and they didnt cared about religion that is why they are psychologists.And no that is what i was explaining to the other guy that some may habeen tortured etc.. but small percent america fas free enough in the begining of the 20th century to have them just to not take them seriosly.And yea dont you se what is happening to companies who in some way oppress sjws with their opinions.Take for example the black boy with the gorilla tshirt the company did not made him intenionally wear that cuz they saw nothing wrong.But some dumbfucks thought that they should fuck up the company by reporting that to the medias with that ending the career of the boy there.

[Heloin]

What does Nazi Germany have to do with anything? People were regularly lynched, tortured, hung, burnt at the stake etc. for a variety of things in the US all the way up to the 1960's. Hell, people are still being victims today of lynchings and murders because of their skin-colour and sexuality.

And "institutions" will shut down Wikipedia? Man, what are you even talking about? First of all, Wikipedia is completely independs of any state entity in the world. Second of all, there's sources at the bottom of the article where you can read about the history of LGBT-people in the world. People have always been gay, bi, trans etc., its just that at various points in history its been illegal and unsafe to express it, which is why you think that its something that only appeared recently.

About the psychological history nah many were openly pro for this just were minority that is all and they didnt cared about religion that is why they are psychologists.And no that is what i was explaining to the other guy that some may habeen tortured etc.. but small percent america fas free enough in the begining of the 20th century to have them just to not take them seriosly.And yea dont you se what is happening to companies who in some way oppress sjws with their opinions.Take for example the black boy with the gorilla tshirt the company did not made him intenionally wear that cuz they saw nothing wrong.But some dumbfucks thought that they should fuck up the company by reporting that to the medias with that ending the career of the boy there.

Wut?

[The New California Republic]

If sent prison before how there were still some before that it had to happen from the start somehow to grow that big right the policy changes sure help but if not any psycologists in there how could they change so quickly and rapidly.

[Lamaredia]

What does Nazi Germany have to do with anything? People were regularly lynched, tortured, hung, burnt at the stake etc. for a variety of things in the US all the way up to the 1960's. Hell, people are still being victims today of lynchings and murders because of their skin-colour and sexuality.

And "institutions" will shut down Wikipedia? Man, what are you even talking about? First of all, Wikipedia is completely independs of any state entity in the world. Second of all, there's sources at the bottom of the article where you can read about the history of LGBT-people in the world. People have always been gay, bi, trans etc., its just that at various points in history its been illegal and unsafe to express it, which is why you think that its something that only appeared recently.

About the psychological history nah many were openly pro for this just were minority that is all and they didnt cared about religion that is why they are psychologists.And no that is what i was explaining to the other guy that some may habeen tortured etc.. but small percent america fas free enough in the begining of the 20th century to have them just to not take them seriosly.And yea dont you se what is happening to companies who in some way oppress sjws with their opinions.Take for example the black boy with the gorilla tshirt the company did not made him intenionally wear that cuz they saw nothing wrong.But some dumbfucks thought that they should fuck up the company by reporting that to the medias with that ending the career of the boy there.

There's nothing inherent about psychology as a working field that excludes religion. A lot of psychologists are and were religious, so that's not reason for as to why they couldn't be biased. Especially considering that a religious focused society obviously has ingrainment in many people' who live in it, brains.

Also, America wasn't free in the beginning of the 20th century. People of colour couldn't vote, and were regularly lynched in the southern states, along with others who in any way was against the "consensus", so to speak, of the religious nuts who lived there.

Also, in a free market economy, people are free to boycott and spread information about companies that they think is against their own personal opinion. Whether or not the company does anything to respond has nothing to do with "institutions", as you would put it, doing anything against them.

I say again, Wikipedia is completely independent of any state entity, and you can clearly see the sources at the bottom of the article that disproves your idea that homosexuality in any way, shape, or form, is a new occurance.

It isn't. Homosexuality has been around for as long as humans have, probably even longer since there are evidence of homosexual animal relations as well in most animal populations.

[Feudal Bulgaria]

About the psychological history nah many were openly pro for this just were minority that is all and they didnt cared about religion that is why they are psychologists.And no that is what i was explaining to the other guy that some may habeen tortured etc.. but small percent america fas free enough in the begining of the 20th century to have them just to not take them seriosly.And yea dont you se what is happening to companies who in some way oppress sjws with their opinions.Take for example the black boy with the gorilla tshirt the company did not made him intenionally wear that cuz they saw nothing wrong.But some dumbfucks thought that they should fuck up the company by reporting that to the medias with that ending the career of the boy there.

There's nothing inherent about psychology as a working field that excludes religion. A lot of psychologists are and were religious, so that's not reason for as to why they couldn't be biased. Especially considering that a religious focused society obviously has ingrainment in many people' who live in it, brains.

Also, America wasn't free in the beginning of the 20th century. People of colour couldn't vote, and were regularly lynched in the southern states, along with others who in any way was against the "consensus", so to speak, of the religious nuts who lived there.

Also, in a free market economy, people are free to boycott and spread information about companies that they think is against their own personal opinion. Whether or not the company does anything to respond has nothing to do with "institutions", as you would put it, doing anything against them.

I say again, Wikipedia is completely independent of any state entity, and you can clearly see the sources at the bottom of the article that disproves your idea that homosexuality in any way, shape, or form, is a new occurance.

It isn't. Homosexuality has been around for as long as humans have, probably even longer since there are evidence of homosexual animal relations as well in most animal populations.

I meant psychologists werent religious in general.Of course many were but not that much applied the religion in their science so..
Bruh we are debating homos and the others not races.I know the racial history i am writing the ltbt or whatever the name is history in the 20th century.
So medias arent institutions okay then. haha..
Bruhhh again there was i never wrote there wasnt i meant that they were incredibly small percantage comparing to the sudden illogical boom in the 60s what of this did you not understood?

[Feudal Bulgaria]

If sent prison before how there were still some before that it had to happen from the start somehow to grow that big right the policy changes sure help but if not any psycologists in there how could they change so quickly and rapidly.

Like your imagenery genders make sense you dont even know what you are. jeez might aswell become a furry or a helicopter.And you think your thoughts are false or whatever you meant in your posts.If those are not signs of mentall illness i dont know what it is oh wait maybe "exploring your mind" type of bc.Better not respond cuz you and your little girl picture companion are makimg fools out of yourselvs.

[Hammer Britannia]

Summer began early, eh?

[Heloin]

Summer began early, eh?

You can feel the warm air, the smell of mosquito repellent, the burning charcoal, and the incoherent rambles.

[Lamaredia]

Summer began early, eh?

See, this is the consequence of global warming, NS Summer starts in May!

[Hammer Britannia]

Summer began early, eh?

You can feel the warm air, the smell of mosquito repellent, the burning charcoal propane, and the incoherent rambles.

ftfy

Summer began early, eh?

See, this is the consequence of global warming, NS Summer starts in May!

We need to cool down the Earth

Quick, everyone close all of Earth's Chrome tabs.

[USS Monitor]

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Like your imagenery genders make sense you dont even know what you are. jeez might aswell become a furry or a helicopter.And you think your thoughts are false or whatever you meant in your posts.If those are not signs of mentall illness i dont know what it is oh wait maybe "exploring your mind" type of bc.Better not respond cuz you and your little girl picture companion are makimg fools out of yourselvs.

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Upgraded to *** 1 day ban *** after reviewing additional reports.

I don't know if there's a language barrier here, but when someone honestly can't read your post, that's not a free pass to ridicule them or say insulting things about transgender people.

Please review the forum rules

[The New California Republic]

Like your imagenery genders make sense you dont even know what you are. jeez might aswell become a furry or a helicopter.And you think your thoughts are false or whatever you meant in your posts.If those are not signs of mentall illness i dont know what it is oh wait maybe "exploring your mind" type of bc.Better not respond cuz you and your little girl picture companion are makimg fools out of yourselvs.

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Tip of the iceberg.

[Feudal Bulgaria]

Like your imagenery genders make sense you dont even know what you are. jeez might aswell become a furry or a helicopter.And you think your thoughts are false or whatever you meant in your posts.If those are not signs of mentall illness i dont know what it is oh wait maybe "exploring your mind" type of bc.Better not respond cuz you and your little girl picture companion are makimg fools out of yourselvs.

*** Warned for trolling ***

I don't know if there's a language barrier here, but when someone honestly can't read your post, that's not a free pass to ridicule them or say insulting things about transgender people.

Please review the forum rules

Yeah honestly, surely honestly, it is definitely not like they try to ridicule me not i them or anything.You are seeng it that way but it doesnt make it the right way.And despite that i never wrote who are the imagenary genders.Who told you i wrote about transes,never even mentioned them so dont try to get a huge deael out of it i know it is in your comunnity's atyle but still.