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Lgbt marriage: good or bad?

Yes, love is love.
408
58%
No, it's a sin.
86
12%
No, love is for reproducing.
50
7%
No, civil unions are better.
23
3%
Maybe
13
2%
Praise David Hasselhoff (Requested by Some random cat dude)
88
13%
No opinion/neutral
30
4%
 
Total votes : 698

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Postby Communal concils » Fri May 03, 2019 6:07 pm

Zordennox wrote:
Communal concils wrote:

I would argue that Capitalism has Degenerated the Family. Like you, I am a Pro-Natalist. I value the ethics of reproductive sex. The Family should share the wealth and hard work of each other. To me , a Non-Bourgeoisie Family would be an extended Family. A Family that is very collectivist and is controlled by a strict authority figure


That's a very traditionalist statement. Are you sure you're a Marxist? Based on what you've been saying, I don't think you are.


Well, You are no longer a Marxist(in the "Traditional" sense) when you reject the last phase of Dialectical Materialism. That is Communism. Also, I am sure that Karl Marx and Frederich Engels did not like Homosexuality. So, I would support this family.

Honestly, I'm tired of Social Liberalism invading Far-Leftist Politics.
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Postby Communal concils » Fri May 03, 2019 6:13 pm

Bezkoshtovnya wrote:
Communal concils wrote:
I hate Conservatives because they are extremely fluid . They usually fail keep the old order, and they eventually become the force they once oppose. So I agree with today's conservatives on some issues. However, I see the conservatives of today as a Liberal of old. I also want a revolution to abolish the old order, which is already anti-Conservative.

So.....you hate them because they fail to preserve the old order but want to destroy the old order...you hate conservatives as of a few pages ago but now agree with them. Is this just ad libs?



I was a conservative a long time ago, But I Lost faith in this Ideology because of it's economics(not it's social views).

I see a Conservative as a Bastardization of a communitarian. Claiming to care for society, but betrays it in the end. I simpily want to create a evolved version of their views, one that is not so fluid. So I'm not a conservative, because I want to destroy their order. However, I want a replacement to their views that opposes Liberalism better than they could.
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Become anti-woke, and free yourself from the lies of mainstream corporate consumerist media.you should also become an anti-consumerist and anti-capitalist. Embrace socialism( the command economy is better.)
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Postby Bezkoshtovnya » Fri May 03, 2019 6:19 pm

Communal concils wrote:
Bezkoshtovnya wrote:So.....you hate them because they fail to preserve the old order but want to destroy the old order...you hate conservatives as of a few pages ago but now agree with them. Is this just ad libs?



I was a conservative a long time ago, But I Lost faith in this Ideology because of it's economics(not it's social views).

I see a Conservative as a Bastardization of a communitarian. Claiming to care for society, but betrays it in the end. I simpily want to create a evolved version of their views, one that is not so fluid. So I'm not a conservative, because I want to destroy their order. However, I want a replacement to their views that opposes Liberalism better than they could.

Not sure how the hell you can claim to care for society, seeing as how you seem to loathe pretty much anything that isnt your bizarre amalgamation of ideas and seek to oppress everyone to the smallest minutiae.
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Postby Communal concils » Fri May 03, 2019 6:21 pm

Zordennox wrote:
Communal concils wrote:
I hate Conservatives because they are extremely fluid . They usually fail keep the old order, and they eventually become the force they once oppose. So I agree with today's conservatives on some issues. However, I see the conservatives of today as a Liberal of old. I also want a revolution to abolish the old order, which is already anti-Conservative.


Again, sort of traditionalist. The Old Order meaning what? Liberalism is not "the Old Order". Traditional societies did not have capitalism and communism.



A conservative has three usual choices. They can become reactionary, they can die with the old system, or they could accept progress.

usually, They will become Reactionary, Therefore Traditionalist. However, Conservatives in the west are taking policies from Liberals. And Conservatives in the New World tend to be Liberals of Old. So Reactionaries are Traditionalist, Fascist are a rebirth of the old, and Conservatives are a status quo.
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List of liberal or semi-liberal ideologies to avoid: "Left"-communism, trotskyism, Intersectionalism, anarchism,classical liberal, social liberalism and economic liberalism( conservatives are addicted to this)

Become anti-woke, and free yourself from the lies of mainstream corporate consumerist media.you should also become an anti-consumerist and anti-capitalist. Embrace socialism( the command economy is better.)
NOTE: Make Cultural Marxism a Real Thing !

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Postby Communal concils » Fri May 03, 2019 6:23 pm

Bezkoshtovnya wrote:
Communal concils wrote:

I was a conservative a long time ago, But I Lost faith in this Ideology because of it's economics(not it's social views).

I see a Conservative as a Bastardization of a communitarian. Claiming to care for society, but betrays it in the end. I simpily want to create a evolved version of their views, one that is not so fluid. So I'm not a conservative, because I want to destroy their order. However, I want a replacement to their views that opposes Liberalism better than they could.

Not sure how the hell you can claim to care for society, seeing as how you seem to loathe pretty much anything that isnt your bizarre amalgamation of ideas and seek to oppress everyone to the smallest minutiae.



Not everyone is oppress, It's only oppressive if you don't want it. I am sure that people might be attracted to it because it seems like Conservatism, yet it also has a revolutionary element to it.
Woke Leftist: Anti-Liberal Leftist

List of liberal or semi-liberal ideologies to avoid: "Left"-communism, trotskyism, Intersectionalism, anarchism,classical liberal, social liberalism and economic liberalism( conservatives are addicted to this)

Become anti-woke, and free yourself from the lies of mainstream corporate consumerist media.you should also become an anti-consumerist and anti-capitalist. Embrace socialism( the command economy is better.)
NOTE: Make Cultural Marxism a Real Thing !

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Postby The Rich Port » Fri May 03, 2019 6:26 pm

Communal concils wrote:
Bezkoshtovnya wrote:Not sure how the hell you can claim to care for society, seeing as how you seem to loathe pretty much anything that isnt your bizarre amalgamation of ideas and seek to oppress everyone to the smallest minutiae.



Not everyone is oppress, It's only oppressive if you don't want it. I am sure that people might be attracted to it because it seems like Conservatism, yet it also has a revolutionary element to it.


Seeing as how literally nobody else would want to join your Crypto-Puritan Communist Party, it's automatically oppressive.

Bezkoshtovnya wrote:
Communal concils wrote:

I was a conservative a long time ago, But I Lost faith in this Ideology because of it's economics(not it's social views).

I see a Conservative as a Bastardization of a communitarian. Claiming to care for society, but betrays it in the end. I simpily want to create a evolved version of their views, one that is not so fluid. So I'm not a conservative, because I want to destroy their order. However, I want a replacement to their views that opposes Liberalism better than they could.

Not sure how the hell you can claim to care for society, seeing as how you seem to loathe pretty much anything that isnt your bizarre amalgamation of ideas and seek to oppress everyone to the smallest minutiae.


He thinks it makes him unique and special when all it does is make him wrong.

*gasp* Just like the author of Empress Theresa.
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Postby Cekoviu » Fri May 03, 2019 6:26 pm

Communal concils wrote:
Bezkoshtovnya wrote:Not sure how the hell you can claim to care for society, seeing as how you seem to loathe pretty much anything that isnt your bizarre amalgamation of ideas and seek to oppress everyone to the smallest minutiae.



Not everyone is oppress, It's only oppressive if you don't want it. I am sure that people might be attracted to it because it seems like Conservatism, yet it also has a revolutionary element to it.

Nope. Not into it at all, and I'm into a lot of weird stuff.
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Postby Bezkoshtovnya » Fri May 03, 2019 6:27 pm

Communal concils wrote:
Bezkoshtovnya wrote:Not sure how the hell you can claim to care for society, seeing as how you seem to loathe pretty much anything that isnt your bizarre amalgamation of ideas and seek to oppress everyone to the smallest minutiae.



Not everyone is oppress, It's only oppressive if you don't want it. I am sure that people might be attracted to it because it seems like Conservatism, yet it also has a revolutionary element to it.

If you can find 8 people that want to live under your system I'll fucking eat the apholstery of my car.

No one is going to be attracted to a system that turns them into mindless drones and robs them of any joy and love and makes them live in work families run by an abusive tyrant.
Dante Alighieri wrote:There is no greater sorrow than to recall happiness in times of misery
Charlie Chaplin wrote:Nothing is permanent in this wicked world, not even our troubles.
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Postby Bezkoshtovnya » Fri May 03, 2019 6:34 pm

Cekoviu wrote:
Communal concils wrote:

Not everyone is oppress, It's only oppressive if you don't want it. I am sure that people might be attracted to it because it seems like Conservatism, yet it also has a revolutionary element to it.

Nope. Not into it at all, and I'm into a lot of weird stuff.

WHAAAAT, you mean you dont want to live in some Equillibrium fanfic world with tinges of incel?
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Postby Communal concils » Fri May 03, 2019 6:34 pm

The Rich Port wrote:
Communal concils wrote:

Not everyone is oppress, It's only oppressive if you don't want it. I am sure that people might be attracted to it because it seems like Conservatism, yet it also has a revolutionary element to it.


Seeing as how literally nobody else would want to join your Crypto-Puritan Communist Party, it's automatically oppressive.

Bezkoshtovnya wrote:Not sure how the hell you can claim to care for society, seeing as how you seem to loathe pretty much anything that isnt your bizarre amalgamation of ideas and seek to oppress everyone to the smallest minutiae.


He thinks it makes him unique and special when all it does is make him wrong.

*gasp* Just like the author of Empress Theresa.



1. assuming that this website will speak for the whole world, and also assuming that Authoritarianism is common in human history.

2. I am not unique in my beliefs, and I am not advocating for something new. I am advocating something that people had advocated through out history.
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Become anti-woke, and free yourself from the lies of mainstream corporate consumerist media.you should also become an anti-consumerist and anti-capitalist. Embrace socialism( the command economy is better.)
NOTE: Make Cultural Marxism a Real Thing !

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Postby Communal concils » Fri May 03, 2019 6:36 pm

Cekoviu wrote:
Communal concils wrote:

Not everyone is oppress, It's only oppressive if you don't want it. I am sure that people might be attracted to it because it seems like Conservatism, yet it also has a revolutionary element to it.

Nope. Not into it at all, and I'm into a lot of weird stuff.



a single individual does not speak for the entire world.
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List of liberal or semi-liberal ideologies to avoid: "Left"-communism, trotskyism, Intersectionalism, anarchism,classical liberal, social liberalism and economic liberalism( conservatives are addicted to this)

Become anti-woke, and free yourself from the lies of mainstream corporate consumerist media.you should also become an anti-consumerist and anti-capitalist. Embrace socialism( the command economy is better.)
NOTE: Make Cultural Marxism a Real Thing !

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Postby Kannap » Fri May 03, 2019 6:37 pm

Communal concils wrote:
Cekoviu wrote:Nope. Not into it at all, and I'm into a lot of weird stuff.



a single individual does not speak for the entire world.


I think you'll find most people won't want to be part of your oppressive society.
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Postby Communal concils » Fri May 03, 2019 6:38 pm

Bezkoshtovnya wrote:
Communal concils wrote:

Not everyone is oppress, It's only oppressive if you don't want it. I am sure that people might be attracted to it because it seems like Conservatism, yet it also has a revolutionary element to it.

If you can find 8 people that want to live under your system I'll fucking eat the apholstery of my car.

No one is going to be attracted to a system that turns them into mindless drones and robs them of any joy and love and makes them live in work families run by an abusive tyrant.



I've talked to many socialist that believe in what I type. And it's several times beyond 8 Poeple.
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Become anti-woke, and free yourself from the lies of mainstream corporate consumerist media.you should also become an anti-consumerist and anti-capitalist. Embrace socialism( the command economy is better.)
NOTE: Make Cultural Marxism a Real Thing !

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Postby Bezkoshtovnya » Fri May 03, 2019 6:40 pm

Communal concils wrote:
Cekoviu wrote:Nope. Not into it at all, and I'm into a lot of weird stuff.



a single individual does not speak for the entire world.

You mean the exact thing you're doing by saying everyone wants to live under your system?

If you try and implement this bizarre fanfiction anywhere in the world, you're going to find there are alot more Wolverines than Mayors of Calumets.
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Postby Communal concils » Fri May 03, 2019 6:40 pm

Kannap wrote:
Communal concils wrote:

a single individual does not speak for the entire world.


I think you'll find most people won't want to be part of your oppressive society.



Only fools will get oppress. I am a Extreme egalitarian, so i hope for the removal of Racism, sexism and Xenophobia. I Believe in the right to shelter, food, water and clothing.
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List of liberal or semi-liberal ideologies to avoid: "Left"-communism, trotskyism, Intersectionalism, anarchism,classical liberal, social liberalism and economic liberalism( conservatives are addicted to this)

Become anti-woke, and free yourself from the lies of mainstream corporate consumerist media.you should also become an anti-consumerist and anti-capitalist. Embrace socialism( the command economy is better.)
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Postby Kannap » Fri May 03, 2019 6:40 pm

Communal concils wrote:
Bezkoshtovnya wrote:If you can find 8 people that want to live under your system I'll fucking eat the apholstery of my car.

No one is going to be attracted to a system that turns them into mindless drones and robs them of any joy and love and makes them live in work families run by an abusive tyrant.



I've talked to many socialist that believe in what I type. And it's several times beyond 8 Poeple.


[Doubt]
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Postby Bezkoshtovnya » Fri May 03, 2019 6:41 pm

Communal concils wrote:
Kannap wrote:
I think you'll find most people won't want to be part of your oppressive society.



Only fools will get oppress. I am a Extreme egalitarian, so i hope for the removal of Racism, sexism and Xenophobia. I Believe in the right to shelter, food, water and clothing.

If by fools you mean 99% of anyone on earth, sure.
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Postby Bezkoshtovnya » Fri May 03, 2019 6:42 pm

Communal concils wrote:
Bezkoshtovnya wrote:If you can find 8 people that want to live under your system I'll fucking eat the apholstery of my car.

No one is going to be attracted to a system that turns them into mindless drones and robs them of any joy and love and makes them live in work families run by an abusive tyrant.



I've talked to many socialist that believe in what I type. And it's several times beyond 8 Poeple.

Then you and your 9 buddies can find a commune somewhere and roleplay your fantasy but leave everyone else out of it.
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Postby Califghanistan » Fri May 03, 2019 6:44 pm

My opinion? Strictly against it.

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Postby Communal concils » Fri May 03, 2019 6:46 pm

Kannap wrote:
Communal concils wrote:

I've talked to many socialist that believe in what I type. And it's several times beyond 8 People.


[Doubt]



How do I know that You are not an Hedonist.
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Become anti-woke, and free yourself from the lies of mainstream corporate consumerist media.you should also become an anti-consumerist and anti-capitalist. Embrace socialism( the command economy is better.)
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Postby The Rich Port » Fri May 03, 2019 6:46 pm

Kannap wrote:
Communal concils wrote:

I've talked to many socialist that believe in what I type. And it's several times beyond 8 Poeple.


[Doubt]


[Lie]

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Postby Kannap » Fri May 03, 2019 6:47 pm

Califghanistan wrote:My opinion? Strictly against it.


Why?
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Postby -MAFDET- » Fri May 03, 2019 6:47 pm

Kannap wrote:
Califghanistan wrote:My opinion? Strictly against it.


Why?

Because he is homophobic.
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Postby Kannap » Fri May 03, 2019 6:47 pm

Communal concils wrote:
Kannap wrote:
[Doubt]



How do I know that You are not an Hedonist.


How do I know that You are not a Hedonist.
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Postby Kannap » Fri May 03, 2019 6:48 pm

-MAFDET- wrote:
Kannap wrote:
Why?

Because he is homophobic.


Probably so
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