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Lgbt marriage: good or bad?

Yes, love is love.
408
58%
No, it's a sin.
86
12%
No, love is for reproducing.
50
7%
No, civil unions are better.
23
3%
Maybe
13
2%
Praise David Hasselhoff (Requested by Some random cat dude)
88
13%
No opinion/neutral
30
4%
 
Total votes : 698

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Postby The New California Republic » Tue Apr 30, 2019 3:43 pm

Korhal IVV wrote:
The Legion of Mankind wrote:I whole heartedly agree. I just can’t support Transgenders.

Because they demand to be accepted for “who they are” but they themselves cannot accept the way they are born.

The actual fuck? Saying "just accept it" to people with gender dysphoria isn't helpful.
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Postby The Galactic Liberal Democracy » Tue Apr 30, 2019 3:44 pm

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Nope cats are objectively better.
Everyone can enjoy cats. Humans have to be conditioned to enjoy relationships.

Actually, there are people who hate cats.

They're fucking weird, but they still exist.

Cats don’t like people, only food and they are so fucking annoying. Some of them are worse then others but they all are dumb and bothersome, if not foul mooded and rude.
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Postby Alanis Star » Tue Apr 30, 2019 3:44 pm

Heloin wrote:
Free Arabian Nation wrote:Right, I forgot.

Gay marriage is Gay

Homophobia's gay.


We are all gay! And by that, I mean that we are all happy! ^^

Gay marriage is gay, Straight marriage is gay too. :P

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Free Arabian Nation wrote:Actually, there are people who hate cats.

They're fucking weird, but they still exist.

Cats don’t like people, only food and they are so fucking annoying. Some of them are worse then others but they all are dumb and bothersome, if not foul mooded and rude.


I just think you had a bad time with the feline companions. They can be loving as dogs if you really try.
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Postby The Galactic Liberal Democracy » Tue Apr 30, 2019 3:45 pm

Free Arabian Nation wrote:
The Galactic Liberal Democracy wrote:No, it should be banned for obvious reasons.

Right, I forgot.

Gay marriage is Gay

Marriage is big dumb and useless. It’s a huge waste of money and resources.
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Postby American Pere Housh » Tue Apr 30, 2019 3:45 pm

I have nothing against but I won't support it for moral reasons.
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Postby Alanis Star » Tue Apr 30, 2019 3:46 pm

The Galactic Liberal Democracy wrote:
Free Arabian Nation wrote:Right, I forgot.

Gay marriage is Gay

Marriage is big dumb and useless. It’s a huge waste of money and resources.


I mean, the grandiose ones are expensive, especially by the celebrities... well, most of the celebrity marriages.

For the others, it's actually a fun time for many, believe it or not.
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Postby Kustonia » Tue Apr 30, 2019 3:47 pm

Free Arabian Nation wrote:
Quaeg wrote:In case it wasn't obvious, I was being facetious.

Oh no, I knew you were joking around.

I was just pointing out that there are barbaric cultures out there that practice arranged and forced marriages.


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Postby Kannap » Tue Apr 30, 2019 3:47 pm

Korhal IVV wrote:
The Legion of Mankind wrote:I whole heartedly agree. I just can’t support Transgenders.

Because they demand to be accepted for “who they are” but they themselves cannot accept the way they are born.


Seems you have a solid misunderstanding of transgender people.
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Postby Munkchester » Tue Apr 30, 2019 3:48 pm

Korhal IVV wrote:
The Legion of Mankind wrote:I whole heartedly agree. I just can’t support Transgenders.

Because they demand to be accepted for “who they are” but they themselves cannot accept the way they are born.

No response to this?

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Postby Woods Is Back » Tue Apr 30, 2019 3:48 pm

The Galactic Liberal Democracy wrote:
Free Arabian Nation wrote:Right, I forgot.

Gay marriage is Gay

Marriage is big dumb and useless. It’s a huge waste of money and resources.
Meh
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Postby Heloin » Tue Apr 30, 2019 3:48 pm

Alanis Star wrote:
Heloin wrote:Homophobia's gay.


We are all gay! And by that, I mean that we are all happy! ^^

Gay marriage is gay, Straight marriage is gay too. :P

We'll have a gay ol' time.

The Galactic Liberal Democracy wrote:
Free Arabian Nation wrote:Right, I forgot.

Gay marriage is Gay

Marriage is big dumb and useless. It’s a huge waste of money and resources.

People like it and want to do it.

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Postby Munkchester » Tue Apr 30, 2019 3:48 pm

Marxist Germany wrote:I'm fine with homosexuals and bisexuals but not transgenders

This is a thread about LGBT+ marriage, not about your opinions on LGBT+ people.

By the way, since you're not fine with them, what do you plan to do about them?
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Postby Quaeg » Tue Apr 30, 2019 3:50 pm

Munkchester wrote:
Marxist Germany wrote:I'm fine with homosexuals and bisexuals but not transgenders

This is a thread about LGBT+ marriage, not about your opinions on LGBT+ people.

By the way, since you're not fine with them, what do you plan to do about them?


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Postby The Galactic Liberal Democracy » Tue Apr 30, 2019 3:51 pm

Alanis Star wrote:I just think you had a bad time with the feline companions. They can be loving as dogs if you really try.

No. Allergies aside, cats are much worse. The worst thing my dog does is panic over thunderstorms. Another dog is a giant golden retriever who really likes people. This is how bad they are, excepting dogs that are not meant to be pets. By comparison, the cats get in my stuff and have the mental capacity of a fly. They also are disgusting even compared to some things dogs do and don’t care much about the emotions of others. They don’t get along as well with anything. Only a few of them even look cute. They don’t work well as pets or useful animals unless you have rat problems. Also, for some reason, they seem to get fat very easily.
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Postby Kustonia » Tue Apr 30, 2019 3:51 pm

The Galactic Liberal Democracy wrote:
Free Arabian Nation wrote:Right, I forgot.

Gay marriage is Gay

Marriage is big dumb and useless. It’s a huge waste of money and resources.


Marriage isn't a waste of money and resources because they are shared amongst spouses and their children. Families generate wealth over time.
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Postby LiberNovusAmericae » Tue Apr 30, 2019 3:52 pm

I support marriage equality, as I believe in personal freedom.

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Postby The Galactic Liberal Democracy » Tue Apr 30, 2019 3:53 pm

Woods Is Back wrote:
The Galactic Liberal Democracy wrote:Marriage is big dumb and useless. It’s a huge waste of money and resources.

Agreed, I only support to keep our species from going extinct

It’s not necessary for that either.
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Postby The Legion of Mankind » Tue Apr 30, 2019 3:53 pm

Kustonia wrote:
Free Arabian Nation wrote:Oh no, I knew you were joking around.

I was just pointing out that there are barbaric cultures out there that practice arranged and forced marriages.


Are you an imperialist and a supremacist?


Why does it matter?
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Postby Slotted Floppies » Tue Apr 30, 2019 3:53 pm

Kustonia wrote:
The Galactic Liberal Democracy wrote:Marriage is big dumb and useless. It’s a huge waste of money and resources.


Marriage isn't a waste of money and resources because they are shared amongst spouses and their children. Families generate wealth over time.


Don’t need marriage for that.
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Postby Alanis Star » Tue Apr 30, 2019 3:55 pm

The Galactic Liberal Democracy wrote:
Alanis Star wrote:I just think you had a bad time with the feline companions. They can be loving as dogs if you really try.

No. Allergies aside, cats are much worse. The worst thing my dog does is panic over thunderstorms. Another dog is a giant golden retriever who really likes people. This is how bad they are, excepting dogs that are not meant to be pets. By comparison, the cats get in my stuff and have the mental capacity of a fly. They also are disgusting even compared to some things dogs do and don’t care much about the emotions of others. They don’t get along as well with anything. Only a few of them even look cute. They don’t work well as pets or useful animals unless you have rat problems. Also, for some reason, they seem to get fat very easily.


I see... well, guess we can agree to disagree on that, but I still respect your opinion.

With that said, this wasn't the topic of the thread, so please do pardon me for going off-topic further. :blush:

Kustonia wrote:
The Galactic Liberal Democracy wrote:Marriage is big dumb and useless. It’s a huge waste of money and resources.


Marriage isn't a waste of money and resources because they are shared amongst spouses and their children. Families generate wealth over time.


There are a lot of marriages that are memorable. Those are swell and fine. ^^

It's usually those that are done just to show off the wealth, or you know, proof that they are going to waste that crapton of cash on the event for the sake of status symbol. Those might be questionable. ><
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Postby Munkchester » Tue Apr 30, 2019 3:55 pm

The Legion of Mankind wrote:
Kustonia wrote:
Are you an imperialist and a supremacist?


Why does it matter?

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Postby The Galactic Liberal Democracy » Tue Apr 30, 2019 3:55 pm

Kustonia wrote:
The Galactic Liberal Democracy wrote:Marriage is big dumb and useless. It’s a huge waste of money and resources.


Marriage isn't a waste of money and resources because they are shared amongst spouses and their children. Families generate wealth over time.

Let’s say we have person 1 and 2. Person 1 makes $40,000 per year. Person 2 makes 50,000 per year. They live in the same house. Their household income is $90,000 before taxes and expenses.
In another, they are married. They make the same amount of money. They still make the same amount of money.
There’s nothing special about marriage, it just complicates things. People can live together without spending money on weddings.
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Postby Munkchester » Tue Apr 30, 2019 3:56 pm

The Galactic Liberal Democracy wrote:
Free Arabian Nation wrote:Right, I forgot.

Gay marriage is Gay

Marriage is big dumb and useless. It’s a huge waste of money and resources.

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We should ban having children because raising children is a huge waste of money and resources
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Postby El-Amin Caliphate » Tue Apr 30, 2019 3:57 pm

The Galactic Liberal Democracy wrote:
Kustonia wrote:
Marriage isn't a waste of money and resources because they are shared amongst spouses and their children. Families generate wealth over time.

Let’s say we have person 1 and 2. Person 1 makes $40,000 per year. Person 2 makes 50,000 per year. They live in the same house. Their household income is $90,000 before taxes and expenses.
In another, they are married. They make the same amount of money. They still make the same amount of money.
There’s nothing special about marriage, it just complicates things. People can live together without spending money on weddings.

Then don't have a wedding. You can get officially married without doing all the wedding stuff. Last I checked, US law doesn't require a wedding for marriage.

But we're threadjacking here, let's get back on topic.
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Postby Slotted Floppies » Tue Apr 30, 2019 3:57 pm

The Galactic Liberal Democracy wrote:
Alanis Star wrote:I just think you had a bad time with the feline companions. They can be loving as dogs if you really try.

No. Allergies aside, cats are much worse. The worst thing my dog does is panic over thunderstorms. Another dog is a giant golden retriever who really likes people. This is how bad they are, excepting dogs that are not meant to be pets. By comparison, the cats get in my stuff and have the mental capacity of a fly. They also are disgusting even compared to some things dogs do and don’t care much about the emotions of others. They don’t get along as well with anything. Only a few of them even look cute. They don’t work well as pets or useful animals unless you have rat problems. Also, for some reason, they seem to get fat very easily.


Blah blah blah blah I have no experience with cats blah blah.

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