Army veteran Muslim convert arrested for terrorist plot

[Duhon]

What he plotted and conspired erased whatever service he once rendered. If he had never plotted as such I'd be saying 'thank you for your service', but definitely not now.

I agree he’s an asshole, but a soldier is a soldier

Soldiers have no monopoly on sainthood, yes.

[Krasny-Volny]

Sounds like an episode of Homeland.

[Kubra]

So what exactly did Jews have to do with "retribution" for Christchurch?

secret bankster cabals running pizza places as a front

[Shofercia]

So what exactly did Jews have to do with "retribution" for Christchurch?

secret bankster cabals running pizza places as a front

Why did you think Nintendo hid Mario's last name from us? It was Jewerman, wasn't it?

[Chan Island]

Glad he was stopped. This tit for tat cycle of violence needs to end, right now, before more people's lives are put at risk.

[Washington Resistance Army]

Glad he was stopped. This tit for tat cycle of violence needs to end, right now, before more people's lives are put at risk.

Tbh it's probably just going to keep getting worse and worse. This is the end result of hyperpartisanship and extreme polarization.

[Jolthig]

Glad he was stopped. This tit for tat cycle of violence needs to end, right now, before more people's lives are put at risk.

Tbh it's probably just going to keep getting worse and worse. This is the end result of hyperpartisanship and extreme polarization.

Not unless we educate and help out the poor youth who are being indoctrinated by these people in the first place.

[Jolthig]

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-us-canada-47313724

According to CBS, his lawyers called his gun collection "modest at best" and said the charges were "histrionic and "without substance".

And that's just the stuff the police have found. I am willing to bet that the guy had a stash somewhere that is equal or greater than the one found at his house.

Really? That's 'modest'?

Ok, maybe not funny, but it is ridiculous though. I'd like to see the NRA defend this.

[Duhon]

According to CBS, his lawyers called his gun collection "modest at best" and said the charges were "histrionic and "without substance".

And that's just the stuff the police have found. I am willing to bet that the guy had a stash somewhere that is equal or greater than the one found at his house.

Really? That's 'modest'?

Ok, maybe not funny, but it is ridiculous though. I'd like to see the NRA defend this.

In purely American terms, that stash is modest. Not modest enough to not kill people with that, but you know, something one does on the side.

[Vassenor]

According to CBS, his lawyers called his gun collection "modest at best" and said the charges were "histrionic and "without substance".

And that's just the stuff the police have found. I am willing to bet that the guy had a stash somewhere that is equal or greater than the one found at his house.

Really? That's 'modest'?

Ok, maybe not funny, but it is ridiculous though. I'd like to see the NRA defend this.

The NRA is too busy pulling itself apart because some of the higher ups decided that yes, maybe the advertising that included openly threatening journalists was going too far.

[Kragholm Free States]

fwiw that is a pretty damn modest collection

When more than enough guns and ammo to kill numerous Democrats and Trump-critical media figures on a hitlist is called "modest"...

Not like he can use them all at once, he's not an octopus. In terms of practical ability to kill people it's no less modest than one or two guns with the same amount of ammunition.

[Jolthig]

Really? That's 'modest'?

Ok, maybe not funny, but it is ridiculous though. I'd like to see the NRA defend this.

The NRA is too busy pulling itself apart because some of the higher ups decided that yes, maybe the advertising that included openly threatening journalists was going too far.

Reminds me of the Westboro Baptist Church with their founder lol

But that's off topic of course.

[GrarG]

Further evidence that any and all Westerners who convert to Muhammadanism should be viewed with great suspicion, it does seem to attract the worst of us; the pathologically angry, the criminal and the self-hating degenerate. No reflection intended on the poor souls born into it.

Since the trend is definitely towards more such converts we can only expect more attempts (and successful ones) in future. A ban on evangelizing may be nice but unenforceable and sadly would never be effective. Of course in the US it would also be unconstitutional but we don't have the problem in Europe.

[Jolthig]

Further evidence that any and all Westerners who convert to Muhammadanism should be viewed with great suspicion, it does seem to attract the worst of us; the pathologically angry, the criminal and the self-hating degenerate. No reflection intended on the poor souls born into it.

I'm a convert to Ahmadiyya Islam, one of the most peaceful sects in Islam, if not the most peaceful sect of them all. Does that mean I should be viewed with suspicion? There are plenty of converts to Islam that don't commit violence and are peaceful.

It can also attract the best in us as Islam advocates for serving the poor and needy.

Since the trend is definitely towards more such converts we can only expect more attempts (and successful ones) in future. A ban on evangelizing may be nice but unenforceable and sadly would never be effective. Of course in the US it would also be unconstitutional but we don't have the problem in Europe.

A ban on evangelicalism of Islam would be as unjust as banning evangelicalism of christianity. So as long as no one is seeking to harm or advocating for harm of people, there is absolutely no problem.

Again, there are way more peaceful converts than violent ones.

[Shanhwa]

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-us-canada-47313724

According to CBS, his lawyers called his gun collection "modest at best" and said the charges were "histrionic and "without substance".

And that's just the stuff the police have found. I am willing to bet that the guy had a stash somewhere that is equal or greater than the one found at his house.

The AR in the center background looks pretty annoying to hold.

[Jolthig]

According to CBS, his lawyers called his gun collection "modest at best" and said the charges were "histrionic and "without substance".

And that's just the stuff the police have found. I am willing to bet that the guy had a stash somewhere that is equal or greater than the one found at his house.

The AR in the center background looks pretty annoying to hold.

Not when you're a nut, nothing matters when anything is annoying really to these people.

[Saiwania]

The AR in the center background looks pretty annoying to hold.

Ergonomically, it looks fine. The front handle probably slides forward or back and locks in place according to user preference. The stock can also probably extend back further to match someone's shoulder position. The AR-15 models are a tactical and "modular" platform where you can spend tons of money giving it frivolous upgrades of every sort beyond simply the scope.

[Neutraligon]

Further evidence that any and all Westerners who convert to Muhammadanism should be viewed with great suspicion, it does seem to attract the worst of us; the pathologically angry, the criminal and the self-hating degenerate. No reflection intended on the poor souls born into it.

Since the trend is definitely towards more such converts we can only expect more attempts (and successful ones) in future. A ban on evangelizing may be nice but unenforceable and sadly would never be effective. Of course in the US it would also be unconstitutional but we don't have the problem in Europe.

GrarG the term Muhammadanism is derogatory towards Muslims and is considered trolling and as such you get an *unofficial warning for trolling*

[Yusseria]

Ah, the wonders of the spread of Islam.

[Jolthig]

Ah, the wonders of the spread of Islam.

Not Islam. Just some people look to radicals for their views.

If that was true then why are most converts such as myself peaceful?

[Yusseria]

Ah, the wonders of the spread of Islam.

Not Islam. Just some people look to radicals for their views.

If that was true then why are most converts such as myself peaceful?

Of course, you're welcome to pretend that the fact that Islamic terrorism now constitutes a majority of global terrorism totally has nothing to do with Islam.

[Jolthig]

Not Islam. Just some people look to radicals for their views.

If that was true then why are most converts such as myself peaceful?

Of course, you're welcome to pretend that the fact that Islamic terrorism now constitutes a majority of global terrorism totally has nothing to do with Islam.

This is a strawman, and does not answer my question to you. I will ask again, since you dodged my question and quickly moved the goalposts, why are converts mostly peaceful? Especially here in the west?

[Yusseria]

Of course, you're welcome to pretend that the fact that Islamic terrorism now constitutes a majority of global terrorism totally has nothing to do with Islam.

This is a strawman, and does not answer my question to you. I will ask again, since you dodged my question and quickly moved the goalposts, why are converts mostly peaceful? Especially here in the west?

Your question was a non sequitur. You're pretending that the man's radicalism had nothing to do with Islam.

[Jolthig]

This is a strawman, and does not answer my question to you. I will ask again, since you dodged my question and quickly moved the goalposts, why are converts mostly peaceful? Especially here in the west?

Your question was a non sequitur. You're pretending that the man's radicalism had nothing to do with Islam.

I think that fallacy more applies to your performance in here today, don't you think?

I don't "pretend". I have no reason to pretend to ignore atrocities in the world. Dodging questions is in itself dishonest.

[Yusseria]

Your question was a non sequitur. You're pretending that the man's radicalism had nothing to do with Islam.

I think that fallacy more applies to your performance in here today, don't you think?

I don't "pretend". I have no reason to pretend to ignore atrocities in the world. Dodging questions is in itself dishonest.

Yet you still do anyway considering that you refuse to acknowledge that the religion of these terrorists might be playing a role in their violence.

The Christian world went through the Reformation and the Enlightenment. Islam has gone through no such reformation. It's a backwards religion and the violence it produces is indicative of that.

I'm certain most converts are peaceful. That does little to change the fact that Islam produces a great deal of violence, and even many of the peaceful worshippers still hold vile views with regard to Sharia.