Alt-right. A terrorist movement in the making?

[Ostroeuropa]

Yeah, well congratulations. You just figured out why you and a lot of the people on 4chan and other such sites who feel disenfranchised have a lot in common.

Ahaha that’s great.
I just said, as a Jew, that I’m not responsible for people’s misguided and antisemitic conspiracy theories. And all you have is “no you!”

So tell me. How exactly am I responsible for all the shit these people assume about me because of my ethnicity?

He's pointing out that your complaints resonate with white and male grievances, and would actually make a good point of connecting with them on an emotional level of how that experience sucks and people should knock itg off.

[Fedel]

Yeah, well congratulations. You just figured out why you and a lot of the people on 4chan and other such sites who feel disenfranchised have a lot in common.

Ahaha that’s great.
I just said, as a Jew, that I’m not responsible for people’s misguided and antisemitic conspiracy theories. And all you have is “no you!”

So tell me. How exactly am I responsible for all the shit these people assume about me because of my ethnicity?

You're not. Just like the people who are told they're nazi's for nothing other then being white aren't responsible. That’s the point.

[Prydania]

Welcome to being Jewish. I have to deal with people constantly accusing me of being part of a cabal that controls the banks and media, is trying to genocide the white race, is trying to undermine western society, as well as being responsible for both communism and capitalism.

Jews have been accused of being the worst things western society can conjure, for centuries. And never once has being bludgeoned with these baseless accusations driven me to kill anyone.

Sure, but it's definitely driven other jews to kill people.

Oh, are we coming off of two cases of Jewish gunmen gunning down white Christians in church over a six month period?

[Liriena]

Given that the terrorists in question tend to cite anti-semitism and fears of "muh great replacement" by way of Islamophobia, I'm really interested to see how you manage to tie this directly into "male tears", and somehow find a way to argue that the rabid racism, misogyny and queerphobia of the alt-right wasn't really there until le evil progressives caused it all on their own.

If you think the great replacement narrative is absent commentary on feminism you aren't paying attention.

You mean the commentary on feminism that boils down to "I can't own a teenage sex slave to make white babies with because feminism has made women into sluts who actually choose who they fuck freely"?

Moreover, that is the end product. You can't get people to buy into that stuff without going through a process of radicalization beginning with legitimate grievances.

And as far as I'm concerned, their anti-progressivism that you so eagerly validate is not one of those legitimate grievances. It's just another layer of cheap, easy rationalization-fuel.

Where are whites and males being portrayed a certain negative way relentlessly? And keep in mind, just citing UK examples won't do and if the best you can come up with is some NYT journalist saying mean things on Twitter...

The dominant political narrative on the subject is difficult to ignore as an influence.

Which dominant political narrative?

Increasing assertion of a political narrative is not the same thing as increasing awareness, but yes, progressivism being more prominent has led to radicalization.

And you validate their radicalization by arguing that, actually, yes, progressivism is the bad guy here and you are being oppressed by it above all other sociopolitical forces.

Can you name some white privilege for me as an example? Just three issues would do.

The war on drugs and entencing disparities. Sympathetic media coverage of white terrorists contrasted with demonizing media coverage of black victims of police violence. Oh, and employment discrimination is still a thing.

[Prydania]

Ahaha that’s great.
I just said, as a Jew, that I’m not responsible for people’s misguided and antisemitic conspiracy theories. And all you have is “no you!”

So tell me. How exactly am I responsible for all the shit these people assume about me because of my ethnicity?

You're not. Just like the people who are told they're nazi's for nothing other then being white aren't responsible.

I’ve never called a white person a Nazi just because they’re white.
Hell, I’ve never actually seen a white person get accused of being a Nazi just because they’re white.

I’m sure it happens, but you’re vastly overstating how often this occurs.

[Bezkoshtovnya]

Sure, but it's definitely driven other jews to kill people.

Oh, are we coming off of two cases of Jewish gunmen gunning down white Christians in church over a six month period?

Regardless the incidents of Jewish retalitory violence despite the centuries of outright genocide,oppression, and persecution is negligable.

[Liriena]

That's ignorant of the history of the alt-right and the timeline of events for one thing, because it begs the question of who legitimized it and how. In reality the alt-right has been mobilizing for a while and growing for a while. They boosted Trump and he boosted them in return.

Increasing assertion of a political narrative is not the same thing as increasing awareness, but yes, progressivism being more prominent has led to radicalization.

Can you name some white privilege for me as an example? Just three issues would do.

Would you also say feminism needs to be brought down and the environments that created the ideas for it to thrive and so on? I agree we need to end discrimination and hate ideologies and so on. But if you're one sided with that, then conflict becomes inevitable again.

It is ignorant to tackle on the issues of white supremacy and Donald Trump's support of it without understanding the social context for why they exist. The question of white supremacy's validity has been answered a thousand times in much more esteemed institutions than NSG. But very well. I'll provide a response I made to a person who asked me virtually the same question you did. It's better than providing a different version of the same answer. It's somewhat more in-depth than what you asked for, but it will do.

That's a gross misunderstanding of the nature of white privilege. It does not mean that all white people are wealthy. It does not suggest that poor white people have never struggled.

White privilege is the birth child of racial bias and racism. Racial bias is a belief, conscious or otherwise, someone may have towards a particular race. When a white man is walking along the street and, upon facing a group of black men conversing with each other, chooses to cross the street rather than walk anywhere near them is an instance of bias. When a white person takes the time out of their day to call the police on a seemingly inactive black man that is actually behaving perfectly lawfully - that too is an instance of bias.

https://www.google.com/amp/s/amp.thegua ... iladelphia

When a police officer attempts to justify shooting an unarmed person of color because he "feared for his life" - that is racial bias.

Racism is when these prejudical beliefs become rule of law. Technically, the existence of racism and racial bias is owed to the concept of racialization, which is the societal classification of humans beings into different groups based upon perceived physical differences, particularly skin color. In other words, the creation of race as a social construct.

This arbitrary grouping of other people, concocted by white settlers in this case, laid the foundation for the ongoing mistreatment of people of color. Inevitably, this gave birth to white privilege.
White privilege is the simple fact that your skn pigment is not one of the things that's making your life more difficult, while the reverse is true for people of color.

- White people are less likely to be followed or interrogated by law enforcement because they appear "suspicious"

-White people’s skin tone will not be a reason people hesitate to trust their credit or financial responsibility.

-If white people are accused of a crime, they are less likely to be presumed guilty, less likely to be sentenced to death and more likely to be portrayed in a fair, nuanced manner by media outlets

-The personal faults or missteps of white people will likely not be used to later deny opportunities or compassion to people who share their racial identity. My own father, who is a convicted felon, is currently working on a college degree, and has a job as a detox nurse. I am certain he would not have been able to reach this far had he not been white.


As I previously mentioned, non white people are generally more likely to be harassed by law enforcement. New York's now abandoned "Stop and Frisk" policy disproportionately targeted an extensive amount of black and latinex people. https://www.nyclu.org/en/stop-and-frisk-data

People of color are considerably more likely to be arrested for drug offenses despite using at a similar rate as white people. https://www.vox.com/2016/5/8/18089368/w ... eroin-meth

According to this data collected in 2017, unarmed and non-violent people of color are more likely to be shot by police than white people. https://policeviolencereport.org

These are the examples of white privilege that I have listed. I can think of more, but I'm too tired to do it. At any rate, I wrote an essay length post just for you.

White privilege is invisible to the people who directly benefit from it. The privileges we possess are not something often contemplated. This research has forced white people to essentially think about the status they hold in society, and how it impacts everyone else. Whether consciously or otherwise, white nationalists despise the idea of their privilege in society being challenged. POC have to go through life with extra mitigation, while white people simply do not have the same social baggage.

As for your last question, I'm utterly lost on your line of thinking. White men are not marginalized on account of their skin color or gender. Black men, with all of the horrible treatment they face, are still moderately better off than black women on account of simply being men. They are not immune to holding sexist bias. I don't understand your vendetta against feminism, a philosophy that is about equality for all.

Speaking of white privilege, something I found while trawling through papers.

https://journals.sagepub.com/doi/abs/10 ... 1611406922

Although some have heralded recent political and cultural developments as signaling the arrival of a postracial era in America, several legal and social controversies regarding “reverse racism” highlight Whites’ increasing concern about anti-White bias. We show that this emerging belief reflects Whites’ view of racism as a zero-sum game, such that decreases in perceived bias against Blacks over the past six decades are associated with increases in perceived bias against Whites—a relationship not observed in Blacks’ perceptions. Moreover, these changes in Whites’ conceptions of racism are extreme enough that Whites have now come to view anti-White bias as a bigger societal problem than anti-Black bias.

[Prydania]

Ahaha that’s great.
I just said, as a Jew, that I’m not responsible for people’s misguided and antisemitic conspiracy theories. And all you have is “no you!”

So tell me. How exactly am I responsible for all the shit these people assume about me because of my ethnicity?

He's pointing out that your complaints resonate with white and male grievances, and would actually make a good point of connecting with them on an emotional level of how that experience sucks and people should knock itg off.

As I said I’ve never accused someone of being a Nazi on account of their whiteness. The only people I accuse of being Nazis or bigots or fascists are people who display that behaviour.

And if someone is committing to the idea that I need to die because I’m a Jew? There’s no honest debate there. Just like there’s no honest debate with someone who believes I’m part of a parasitic cabal just because I’m Jewish.

[Ostroeuropa]

If you think the great replacement narrative is absent commentary on feminism you aren't paying attention.

You mean the commentary on feminism that boils down to "I can't own a teenage sex slave to make white babies with because feminism has made women into sluts who actually choose who they fuck freely"?

Moreover, that is the end product. You can't get people to buy into that stuff without going through a process of radicalization beginning with legitimate grievances.

And as far as I'm concerned, their anti-progressivism that you so eagerly validate is not one of those legitimate grievances. It's just another layer of cheap, easy rationalization-fuel.

The dominant political narrative on the subject is difficult to ignore as an influence.

Which dominant political narrative?

Increasing assertion of a political narrative is not the same thing as increasing awareness, but yes, progressivism being more prominent has led to radicalization.

And you validate their radicalization by arguing that, actually, yes, progressivism is the bad guy here and you are being oppressed by it above all other sociopolitical forces.

Can you name some white privilege for me as an example? Just three issues would do.

The war on drugs and entencing disparities. Sympathetic media coverage of white terrorists contrasted with demonizing media coverage of black victims of police violence. Oh, and employment discrimination is still a thing.

Sentencing disparities do not benefit white people as a group. About half of white people receive harsher sentences than the average the justice system gives out.
Media demonization of victims of crimes is something about half of white people also suffer from. You may as well list "Being a billionaire" as white privilege.

You're discussing white women. Can you explain to me why the progressive narrative, if it were genuinely interested in eliminating these injustices, would focus on white men?

[Ostroeuropa]

That's ignorant of the history of the alt-right and the timeline of events for one thing, because it begs the question of who legitimized it and how. In reality the alt-right has been mobilizing for a while and growing for a while. They boosted Trump and he boosted them in return.

Increasing assertion of a political narrative is not the same thing as increasing awareness, but yes, progressivism being more prominent has led to radicalization.

Can you name some white privilege for me as an example? Just three issues would do.

Would you also say feminism needs to be brought down and the environments that created the ideas for it to thrive and so on? I agree we need to end discrimination and hate ideologies and so on. But if you're one sided with that, then conflict becomes inevitable again.

It is ignorant to tackle on the issues of white supremacy and Donald Trump's support of it without understanding the social context for why they exist. The question of white supremacy's validity has been answered a thousand times in much more esteemed institutions than NSG. But very well. I'll provide a response I made to a person who asked me virtually the same question you did. It's better than providing a different version of the same answer. It's somewhat more in-depth than what you asked for, but it will do.

That's a gross misunderstanding of the nature of white privilege. It does not mean that all white people are wealthy. It does not suggest that poor white people have never struggled.

White privilege is the birth child of racial bias and racism. Racial bias is a belief, conscious or otherwise, someone may have towards a particular race. When a white man is walking along the street and, upon facing a group of black men conversing with each other, chooses to cross the street rather than walk anywhere near them is an instance of bias. When a white person takes the time out of their day to call the police on a seemingly inactive black man that is actually behaving perfectly lawfully - that too is an instance of bias.

https://www.google.com/amp/s/amp.thegua ... iladelphia

When a police officer attempts to justify shooting an unarmed person of color because he "feared for his life" - that is racial bias.

Racism is when these prejudical beliefs become rule of law. Technically, the existence of racism and racial bias is owed to the concept of racialization, which is the societal classification of humans beings into different groups based upon perceived physical differences, particularly skin color. In other words, the creation of race as a social construct.

This arbitrary grouping of other people, concocted by white settlers in this case, laid the foundation for the ongoing mistreatment of people of color. Inevitably, this gave birth to white privilege.
White privilege is the simple fact that your skn pigment is not one of the things that's making your life more difficult, while the reverse is true for people of color.

- White people are less likely to be followed or interrogated by law enforcement because they appear "suspicious"

-White people’s skin tone will not be a reason people hesitate to trust their credit or financial responsibility.

-If white people are accused of a crime, they are less likely to be presumed guilty, less likely to be sentenced to death and more likely to be portrayed in a fair, nuanced manner by media outlets

-The personal faults or missteps of white people will likely not be used to later deny opportunities or compassion to people who share their racial identity. My own father, who is a convicted felon, is currently working on a college degree, and has a job as a detox nurse. I am certain he would not have been able to reach this far had he not been white.


As I previously mentioned, non white people are generally more likely to be harassed by law enforcement. New York's now abandoned "Stop and Frisk" policy disproportionately targeted an extensive amount of black and latinex people. https://www.nyclu.org/en/stop-and-frisk-data

People of color are considerably more likely to be arrested for drug offenses despite using at a similar rate as white people. https://www.vox.com/2016/5/8/18089368/w ... eroin-meth

According to this data collected in 2017, unarmed and non-violent people of color are more likely to be shot by police than white people. https://policeviolencereport.org

These are the examples of white privilege that I have listed. I can think of more, but I'm too tired to do it. At any rate, I wrote an essay length post just for you.

White privilege is invisible to the people who directly benefit from it. The privileges we possess are not something often contemplated. This research has forced white people to essentially think about the status they hold in society, and how it impacts everyone else. Whether consciously or otherwise, white nationalists despise the idea of their privilege in society being challenged. POC have to go through life with extra mitigation, while white people simply do not have the same social baggage.

As for your last question, I'm utterly lost on your line of thinking. White men are not marginalized on account of their skin color or gender. Black men, with all of the horrible treatment they face, are still moderately better off than black women on account of simply being men. They are not immune to holding sexist bias. I don't understand your vendetta against feminism, a philosophy that is about equality for all.

White supremacy is merely an in-group and out-group tool and system for organizing power. If you out-group white people, some will become white supremacist. The key is to discuss who is causing the in-group and out-group distinction to fall along racial lines.

White people is a dysfunctional category to analyze police violence from if you're going to claim white privilege, because half of white people also suffer disproportionate racial violence.

The concept of white privilege is a matter of not properly examining a data set with sufficient controls.

Can you demonstrate to me an example of white privilege that survives these controls being applied?

I can go around claiming having sex before marriage increases your divorce rate. But that's only true if you don't examine the data properly and do things like, say, separate out "Consensual sex" and "rape". (Being raped, unfortunately, is an indicator of higher rates of divorce later in life. Understandably.).

Observations like that mean that the statement "Having sex before marriage increases your divorce chances" is extremely misleading and shouldn't be the basis for public policy.

So it goes with "White privilege".

[-MAFDET-]

Speaking of white privilege, something I found while trawling through papers.

https://journals.sagepub.com/doi/abs/10 ... 1611406922

Although some have heralded recent political and cultural developments as signaling the arrival of a postracial era in America, several legal and social controversies regarding “reverse racism” highlight Whites’ increasing concern about anti-White bias. We show that this emerging belief reflects Whites’ view of racism as a zero-sum game, such that decreases in perceived bias against Blacks over the past six decades are associated with increases in perceived bias against Whites—a relationship not observed in Blacks’ perceptions. Moreover, these changes in Whites’ conceptions of racism are extreme enough that Whites have now come to view anti-White bias as a bigger societal problem than anti-Black bias.

That's quite interesting. Thank you.

[Fedel]

Sure, but it's definitely driven other jews to kill people.

Oh, are we coming off of two cases of Jewish gunmen gunning down white Christians in church over a six month period?

You’re missing the point. Are you responsible for those peoples actions?

[Ostroeuropa]

Although some have heralded recent political and cultural developments as signaling the arrival of a postracial era in America, several legal and social controversies regarding “reverse racism” highlight Whites’ increasing concern about anti-White bias. We show that this emerging belief reflects Whites’ view of racism as a zero-sum game, such that decreases in perceived bias against Blacks over the past six decades are associated with increases in perceived bias against Whites—a relationship not observed in Blacks’ perceptions. Moreover, these changes in Whites’ conceptions of racism are extreme enough that Whites have now come to view anti-White bias as a bigger societal problem than anti-Black bias.[/box]

This just straight up excludes the possibility they are right and insists they view it as a zero sum game, rather than there being a shift from anti-black bias to anti-white bias not by eliminating racists talking, but changing what kind of racist is talking. In that context, it is a zero sum game between two racists for what kind of racism gets voiced the most.

For example; if I were to advance the issue of false rape accusations by insisting that they were reflective of womens propensity to lie constantly, and reflective of their overall mindset and character due to too much female influence in their lives and that's why we need to ban womens organizations, I could pull this same trick you just did.

"It's not a zero sum game tho.".

What you mean is;

It doesn't HAVE to be a zero sum game.

That doesn't answer whether YOU are playing it like one.

[Liriena]

You mean the commentary on feminism that boils down to "I can't own a teenage sex slave to make white babies with because feminism has made women into sluts who actually choose who they fuck freely"?


And as far as I'm concerned, their anti-progressivism that you so eagerly validate is not one of those legitimate grievances. It's just another layer of cheap, easy rationalization-fuel.


Which dominant political narrative?


And you validate their radicalization by arguing that, actually, yes, progressivism is the bad guy here and you are being oppressed by it above all other sociopolitical forces.


The war on drugs and entencing disparities. Sympathetic media coverage of white terrorists contrasted with demonizing media coverage of black victims of police violence. Oh, and employment discrimination is still a thing.

Sentencing disparities do not benefit white people as a group.

I'm sorry. Are you trying to argue that white people on average receiving more lenient sentences for the same crime under the same circumstances is not a form of privilege?

Media demonization of victims of crimes is something about half of white people also suffer from.

By "half of white people" are you implying white men?

You may as well list "Being a billionaire" as white privilege.
American billionares are overwhelmingly white and that could be argued to be in no small part due to the fact that socioeconomic mobility favors white Americans in general to this day.

You're discussing white women.

Am I?

Is this your way to avoid admitting that white privilege is a thing by way of shifting the attention onto racist women? Because that's kinda weird.

[Ostroeuropa]

Sentencing disparities do not benefit white people as a group.

I'm sorry. Are you trying to argue that white people on average receiving more lenient sentences for the same crime under the same circumstances is not a form of privilege?

Media demonization of victims of crimes is something about half of white people also suffer from.

By "half of white people" are you implying white men?

You may as well list "Being a billionaire" as white privilege.
American billionares are overwhelmingly white and that could be argued to be in no small part due to the fact that socioeconomic mobility favors white Americans in general to this day.

Am I?

Yes, white males.

I can go around claiming having sex before marriage increases your divorce rate. But that's only true if you don't examine the data properly and do things like, say, separate out "Consensual sex" and "rape". (Being raped, unfortunately, is an indicator of higher rates of divorce later in life. Understandably.).

Observations like that mean that the statement "Having sex before marriage increases your divorce chances" is extremely misleading and shouldn't be the basis for public policy.

So it goes with "White privilege".

It's an idea advanced by people who don't know how to handle a data set, or a deliberately handling one poorly because it suits their prejudices to do so.

[Prydania]

Oh, are we coming off of two cases of Jewish gunmen gunning down white Christians in church over a six month period?

You’re missing the point. Are you responsible for those peoples actions?

Nope, I’m not. Just like white folks aren’t collectively guilty for the two synagogue shootings.
Not sure where anyone claimed that, but there’s your clarification on the matter.

[Rezmaeristan]

Regardless of the facts, many white people, particularly white men, feel as if society is stacked against them, or they face a future of displacement. And as we've seen, these numbers are increasing. If these numbers get too high, it could be a serious threat beyond a few deranged individuals.

So the question is, how do we convince white people that they're not threatened? I think they do face some threats(though obviously nothing like white genocide; marginalization might be a more accurate term) that could be reduced with immigration reduction and natalist policies. Or if this threat is imaginary, what can be done to prove its nonexistence?

[Ostroeuropa]

Regardless of the facts, many white people, particularly white men, feel as if society is stacked against them, or they face a future of displacement. And as we've seen, these numbers are increasing. If these numbers get too high, it could be a serious threat beyond a few deranged individuals.

So the question is, how do we convince white people that they're not threatened? I think they do face some threats(though obviously nothing like white genocide; marginalization might be a more accurate term) that could be reduced with immigration reduction and natalist policies. Or if this threat is imaginary, what can be done to prove its nonexistence?

How can you convince progressives that their actions and rhetoric are anti-white and anti-male?

[Rezmaeristan]

Regardless of the facts, many white people, particularly white men, feel as if society is stacked against them, or they face a future of displacement. And as we've seen, these numbers are increasing. If these numbers get too high, it could be a serious threat beyond a few deranged individuals.

So the question is, how do we convince white people that they're not threatened? I think they do face some threats(though obviously nothing like white genocide; marginalization might be a more accurate term) that could be reduced with immigration reduction and natalist policies. Or if this threat is imaginary, what can be done to prove its nonexistence?

How can you convince progressives that their actions and rhetoric are anti-white and anti-male?

I can see what you're getting at here. Examples of the effects of progressive policies might help with that.

[Liriena]

So the question is, how do we convince white people that they're not threatened? I think they do face some threats(though obviously nothing like white genocide; marginalization might be a more accurate term) that could be reduced with immigration reduction and natalist policies. Or if this threat is imaginary, what can be done to prove its nonexistence?

The threat is imaginary. What can be done? First of all, undermine the far right's ability to exploit these delusions by depriving them of the tools to recruit and radicalize white men. Don't give the ideologues of the movement platforms and take away what platforms they do have. Second of all, and this is a bit of a pipe dream because it would require going against the media's interests, undermine the hysteria-fueling coverage of stuff like the migrant crisis and try to keep the reporting level-headed, facts-based and empathetic. Don't allow pundits to otherize foreigners unchecked.

[Ostroeuropa]

How can you convince progressives that their actions and rhetoric are anti-white and anti-male?

I can see what you're getting at here. Examples of the effects of progressive policies might help with that.

Well for one, you need to marginalize feminists and feminism and undergo a systematic review of their impact on legislation and institutions while repealing or fixing all their nonsense they caused.
Secondly you need to allow white and male organizations to address issues impacting their communities and demographic.
Thirdly, the white privilege and male privilege narratives need to be abandoned in favor of talking about how racism impacts its victims.

That'd go a long way.

[Liriena]

Regardless of the facts, many white people, particularly white men, feel as if society is stacked against them, or they face a future of displacement. And as we've seen, these numbers are increasing. If these numbers get too high, it could be a serious threat beyond a few deranged individuals.

So the question is, how do we convince white people that they're not threatened? I think they do face some threats(though obviously nothing like white genocide; marginalization might be a more accurate term) that could be reduced with immigration reduction and natalist policies. Or if this threat is imaginary, what can be done to prove its nonexistence?

How can you convince progressives that their actions and rhetoric are anti-white and anti-male?

How can you convince nationalists that their irrational resentments is stoking illegitimate fears and hatred and shifting attention away from the real roots of our problems?

[Ostroeuropa]

How can you convince progressives that their actions and rhetoric are anti-white and anti-male?

How can you convince nationalists that their irrational resentments is stoking illegitimate fears and hatred and shifting attention away from the real roots of our problems?

There are issues both whites and males face, they are not illegitimate merely because an ideology declares them so on account of the sex and skin color of the people involved.

Capitalism makes shit like this worse, but it isn't the root of these problems. Society does not spring into existence fully formed and perfect in its justice until a capitalist comes along to fuck things up for everybody. Justice is something that must be constructed. The root of our problem is that we haven't built it yet. Shifting attention toward injustices whites and males face is not "away from the real roots of our problems", but merely toward problems you don't think are valid because ideology.

Notably, the Nationalism in terms of economics is an attempt to build an economic political coalition. The alt right doesn't really have a coherent economic ideology. In terms of social policy its more complicated.

[Ostroeuropa]

Example of white privilege being bullshit;

If something benefits both Asians and White people, why say it's white privilege? Isn't it more accurate to say it's Black disadvantage?

The examples of white privilege you bring up, ask yourself this;

Is it only whites benefitting from the example?

If not;
Would "Jewish privilege" be acceptable to you too? Along with a narrative about Jews similar to the one you advance for whites? What justification for the boundary you have chosen do you have?

Especially within the context of that kind of argument then supplying say, non-Jewish white people, the social capital to be racist to Jews and dismiss complaints about it because "Jewish privilege" and "Privilege+power", like Sarah Jeong, for instance.

[Liriena]

Secondly you need to allow white and male organizations to address issues impacting their communities and demographic.

Y'all already have the right to form "white organizations". You've had it for decades. And every time someone uses that right, a white supremacist organization is born.

When was the last time you heard of a white organization that wasn't supremacist? Say what you will about black activism, but at least they can claim that not every single black organization has been in the line of the Black Hebrew Israelites.