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Postby Bezkoshtovnya » Tue Apr 30, 2019 10:37 am

TREY DAVIS wrote:As for the idea that Right-Wing Terrorism is more common than Left-Wing Terrorism, you don't hear about Left-Wing Terrorism as much since a large majority of the mainstream media doesn't report of acts of terror carried out by the Left due to bias which has been shown multiple times. Mainstream media only reports crimes carried out by people on the Right due to political motives, and most of these are taken off quotes on twitter with little to no fact checking. Such as CNN, The New York Times, and The Washington Post. These are several sources which have a political agenda and push it onto the public through their "news".

Because that makes sense. The media has a third eye of when a mass murder takes place before the perpetrator is even known as to what ideology they fall under, and then choose to not do anything with it and no one ever hears about it. Because that's how that works.
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Postby Liriena » Tue Apr 30, 2019 11:16 am

"in the making"? Alt-right mush-brains have already memed their way through multiple places of worship.
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Postby Liriena » Tue Apr 30, 2019 11:21 am

TREY DAVIS wrote:As for the idea that Right-Wing Terrorism is more common than Left-Wing Terrorism, you don't hear about Left-Wing Terrorism as much since a large majority of the mainstream media doesn't report of acts of terror carried out by the Left due to bias which has been shown multiple times

[leans into mic]

wrong

In fact, it's because right-wing terrorism is, objectively, the more common and dangerous one.
http://nymag.com/intelligencer/2019/03/ ... emism.html
https://www.gq.com/story/right-wing-extremism-murders
https://www.washingtonpost.com/national ... b80ab54ce8

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Postby TREY DAVIS » Tue Apr 30, 2019 11:21 am

Liriena wrote:"in the making"? Alt-right mush-brains have already memed their way through multiple places of worship.


It has been proven that the Right are more capable of "meming" than the left. Memes produced by people who lean towards the Right-Wing tend to be more influential as well. Another reason that it's effective is that a decent amount of the Right doesn't really give a damn whether their content is offensive or not.

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Postby Shanhwa » Tue Apr 30, 2019 11:23 am

TREY DAVIS wrote:
Liriena wrote:"in the making"? Alt-right mush-brains have already memed their way through multiple places of worship.


It has been proven that the Right are more capable of "meming" than the left. Memes produced by people who lean towards the Right-Wing tend to be more influential as well. Another reason that it's effective is that a decent amount of the Right doesn't really give a damn whether their content is offensive or not.


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Postby Liriena » Tue Apr 30, 2019 11:26 am

TREY DAVIS wrote:
Liriena wrote:"in the making"? Alt-right mush-brains have already memed their way through multiple places of worship.


It has been proven that the Right are more capable of "meming" than the left.

[leans into mic]

wrong

TREY DAVIS wrote:Memes produced by people who lean towards the Right-Wing tend to be more influential as well. Another reason that it's effective is that a decent amount of the Right doesn't really give a damn whether their content is offensive or not.

Just for the record: when I said "memed", I meant "shot/burned". Multiple alt-right mush-brains have already shot or burned their way through multiple places of worship. Often while quoting "memes".

I do appreciate you kind of admitting that right-wing memery is an extremist recruitment tool. :)
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Postby Liriena » Tue Apr 30, 2019 11:27 am

Shanhwa wrote:
TREY DAVIS wrote:
It has been proven that the Right are more capable of "meming" than the left. Memes produced by people who lean towards the Right-Wing tend to be more influential as well. Another reason that it's effective is that a decent amount of the Right doesn't really give a damn whether their content is offensive or not.


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Postby Shanhwa » Tue Apr 30, 2019 11:27 am

Liriena wrote:
TREY DAVIS wrote:
It has been proven that the Right are more capable of "meming" than the left.

[leans into mic]

wrong

TREY DAVIS wrote:Memes produced by people who lean towards the Right-Wing tend to be more influential as well. Another reason that it's effective is that a decent amount of the Right doesn't really give a damn whether their content is offensive or not.

Just for the record: when I said "memed", I meant "shot/burned". Multiple alt-right mush-brains have already shot or burned their way through multiple places of worship. Often while quoting "memes".

I do appreciate you kind of admitting that right-wing memery is an extremist recruitment tool. :)



I too remember when looking at Pepe made me want to bomb a mosque
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Postby Liriena » Tue Apr 30, 2019 11:29 am

Shanhwa wrote:
Liriena wrote:[leans into mic]

wrong


Just for the record: when I said "memed", I meant "shot/burned". Multiple alt-right mush-brains have already shot or burned their way through multiple places of worship. Often while quoting "memes".

I do appreciate you kind of admitting that right-wing memery is an extremist recruitment tool. :)



I too remember when looking at Pepe made me want to bomb a mosque

Putting words in people's mouths is always good, honest praxis.
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Postby Conserative Morality » Tue Apr 30, 2019 11:34 am

Shanhwa wrote:I too remember when looking at Pepe made me want to bomb a mosque

"It's just a swastika guys, it's a symbol of peace"
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Postby Liriena » Tue Apr 30, 2019 11:38 am

Conserative Morality wrote:
Shanhwa wrote:I too remember when looking at Pepe made me want to bomb a mosque

"It's just a swastika guys, it's a symbol of peace"

"I'm just ironically fantasizing about illegally torturing and killing lefties like Pinochet did"
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It's really disappointing that Fascists and their sympathisers have such a large presence on NSG.
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Postby The Emerald Legion » Tue Apr 30, 2019 11:44 am

Liriena wrote:
Conserative Morality wrote:"It's just a swastika guys, it's a symbol of peace"

"I'm just ironically fantasizing about illegally torturing and killing lefties like Pinochet did"


You say that like being a sarcastic, historically insensitive asshole is less likely than honestly wanting to torture and kill people.
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Postby Conserative Morality » Tue Apr 30, 2019 11:46 am

The Emerald Legion wrote:
You say that like being a sarcastic, historically insensitive asshole is less likely than honestly wanting to torture and kill people.

Hiding behind absurdism is so 2015.
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Postby Ostroeuropa » Tue Apr 30, 2019 11:46 am

Liriena wrote:
Conserative Morality wrote:"It's just a swastika guys, it's a symbol of peace"

"I'm just ironically fantasizing about illegally torturing and killing lefties like Pinochet did"


Yeh man, male tears and stuff is just irony. Same as your mayo routine, hilarious stuff.
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Postby Liriena » Tue Apr 30, 2019 11:51 am

Ostroeuropa wrote:
Liriena wrote:"I'm just ironically fantasizing about illegally torturing and killing lefties like Pinochet did"


Yeh man, male tears and stuff is just irony. Same as your mayo routine, hilarious stuff.

When was the last time a feminist posted a manifesto where she quoted "male tears" and "mayocide" before unloading her gun into a group of white men?
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Postby TREY DAVIS » Tue Apr 30, 2019 11:52 am

Conserative Morality wrote:
Shanhwa wrote:I too remember when looking at Pepe made me want to bomb a mosque

"It's just a swastika guys, it's a symbol of peace"

Actually yeah it is. Many different religions had a swastika until they decided to dump it due to a specific Historical figure utilizing it. The swastika of Nazi Germany was a symbol of unity, strength, discipline, and law and order. But it's main representation was unity.

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Postby Conserative Morality » Tue Apr 30, 2019 11:52 am

TREY DAVIS wrote:
Conserative Morality wrote:"It's just a swastika guys, it's a symbol of peace"

Actually yeah it is. Many different religions had a swastika until they decided to dump it due to a specific Historical figure utilizing it. The swastika of Nazi Germany was a symbol of unity, strength, discipline, and law and order. But it's main representation was unity.

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Postby -MAFDET- » Tue Apr 30, 2019 11:54 am

TREY DAVIS wrote:
Conserative Morality wrote:"It's just a swastika guys, it's a symbol of peace"

Actually yeah it is. Many different religions had a swastika until they decided to dump it due to a specific Historical figure utilizing it. The swastika of Nazi Germany was a symbol of unity, strength, discipline, and law and order. But it's main representation was unity.

You're blowing your cover. I don't think anyone needs to explain why it is you're so full of shit.

Whatever meaning the Swastika had in the western world pre-1933 is irrelevant. It is a fucking hate symbol.
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Postby Liriena » Tue Apr 30, 2019 11:54 am

Conserative Morality wrote:
The Emerald Legion wrote:
You say that like being a sarcastic, historically insensitive asshole is less likely than honestly wanting to torture and kill people.

Hiding behind absurdism is so 2015.

That's why we've rebranded the increasingly lame nihilistic joker memes of years past into the fresh new Honkler memes! Same "i'm 14 and sheltered and a bit of a shithead and this is deep" mentality, more cartoonish aesthetic!
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Postby Bezkoshtovnya » Tue Apr 30, 2019 11:55 am

TREY DAVIS wrote:
Conserative Morality wrote:"It's just a swastika guys, it's a symbol of peace"

Actually yeah it is. Many different religions had a swastika until they decided to dump it due to a specific Historical figure utilizing it. The swastika of Nazi Germany was a symbol of unity, strength, discipline, and law and order. But it's main representation was unity.

Yeah that's why people spray paint swastikas on synagogues, as a show of unity with their Jewish neighbors.
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Postby Liriena » Tue Apr 30, 2019 11:59 am

Conserative Morality wrote:
TREY DAVIS wrote:Actually yeah it is. Many different religions had a swastika until they decided to dump it due to a specific Historical figure utilizing it. The swastika of Nazi Germany was a symbol of unity, strength, discipline, and law and order. But it's main representation was unity.

w e w

mfw when the poster who started off complaining about how every white right-winger gets called a nazi nowadays goes on to say that actually nazi symbology had a nice message
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Postby Ostroeuropa » Tue Apr 30, 2019 12:25 pm

Liriena wrote:
Ostroeuropa wrote:
Yeh man, male tears and stuff is just irony. Same as your mayo routine, hilarious stuff.

When was the last time a feminist posted a manifesto where she quoted "male tears" and "mayocide" before unloading her gun into a group of white men?


When was the last time neoliberal capitalists did an inner city riot?

You're falling into a Liberal mindset all of a sudden and acting like state violence doesn't exist.

Jailing domestic violence victims and denying people education through violation of due process rights is pretty violent, as was the continuous downplaying and vilification of people who brought up mens issues like, say, the suicide epidemic.

Before we allowed the feminist hate movement into power there were plenty of violent independent actors.

It's interesting that you immediately fall back on the same gaslighting techniques capitalists (I.E, people with state violence at their beck and call) use to discuss the relative violence of political ideologies instead of using a better metric. Almost like people with power have it in their interest to get you to think about this issue in that way, and you're aware of it for capitalists, but not progressives.

Give white supremacists domination of most institutions and you won't see them shooting up mosques anymore either.

So here's a question for you in retort, when was the last time a white supremacist quoted pepe the frog before lobbying powerful institutions and succeeding to unleash systemic organized violence on minorities?

Aren't you the types who say personal acts of prejudice isn't as important as systemic issues and individual actors aren't necessarily important and muddy the issue by pretending a false equivalence?

I don't disagree with your analysis of the alt-right as a group of people barely masking their prejudice and pretending that it's all about a benign cause, using irony and so on to shield themselves, dogwhistlign at eachother, spreading misinformation and being more about hating an out-group than anything positive for an ingroup, surrounded by gullible orbiters who fall for their bullshit and waffle about how it's about immigration control and a patriotic movement and so on. I just think of the spiderman meme whenever a feminist calls them out on it is all.

You're like, the same. It's the same picture.

And that's the problem here that makes me inclined to
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Postby Liriena » Tue Apr 30, 2019 12:33 pm

Ostroeuropa wrote:
Liriena wrote:When was the last time a feminist posted a manifesto where she quoted "male tears" and "mayocide" before unloading her gun into a group of white men?


When was the last time neoliberal capitalists did an inner city riot?

You're falling into a Liberal mindset all of a sudden and acting like state violence doesn't exist.

I'm gonna stop you right here. This is a terrorism thread, not a state violence thread or a violence-in-general thread.
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Postby Free Arabian Nation » Tue Apr 30, 2019 12:33 pm

Liriena wrote:
Ostroeuropa wrote:
When was the last time neoliberal capitalists did an inner city riot?

You're falling into a Liberal mindset all of a sudden and acting like state violence doesn't exist.

I'm gonna stop you right here. This is a terrorism thread, not a state violence thread or a violence-in-general thread.

The state is a terroristic entity.
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