Alt-right. A terrorist movement in the making?

[Torrocca]

The term originated from Richard Spencer, so you're wrong there.



We certainly can say the alt-right is all white supremacists, since that's what the movement's built on.

It's not. You don't get to decide what a movement is built on.

You're right that I don't get to decide on what a movement is built on; that's what the chucklefucks in the Alt-Right did for themselves by building it as a white supremacist movement. :^3

[Skarten]

AntiFa is quite obviously an organized group. It's an conglomerate of groups, yes, but they all act very similarly. Which is not the case of the alt-right. AntiFA uses the same flag, the same name, and nearly everything in a very similar way to the other groups of their kind.

You do realize that you just saying things doesn't make it magically true, right?

I could use a fucking AntiFA flag right now, that doesn't magically mean I'm in any way in an organization.

There's a difference between using an Antifa flag and having an myriad of groups that add nearly exactly the same.

[Torrocca]

You do realize that you just saying things doesn't make it magically true, right?

I could use a fucking AntiFA flag right now, that doesn't magically mean I'm in any way in an organization.

There's a difference between using an Antifa flag and having an myriad of groups that add nearly exactly the same.

Acting similar =/= being an organization.

[Skarten]

It's not. You don't get to decide what a movement is built on.

You're right that I don't get to decide on what a movement is built on; that's what the chucklefucks in the Alt-Right did for themselves by building it as a white supremacist movement. :^3

Once again, [Citation Needed].

Please, go commit Diavolo ":)"

[The Black Party]

friendly reminder that the Alt-Right does not idenitify as, nor is widely considered a White Supremacist organization.

[Skarten]

There's a difference between using an Antifa flag and having an myriad of groups that add nearly exactly the same.

Acting similar =/= being an organization.

They don't just act similar. They follow the same strategies, they use the same flags, the same name, and last time i checked they call themselves a group. Unless there's been some kind of Antifa civil war that i haven't heard about.

[Evil Dictators Happyland]

You're right that I don't get to decide on what a movement is built on; that's what the chucklefucks in the Alt-Right did for themselves by building it as a white supremacist movement. :^3

Once again, [Citation Needed].

Please, go commit Diavolo ":)"

What does this mean?

[Torrocca]

Literally doesn't even take a second to search this shit up on Google, chief. The fucking movement started as white supremacy and was built as white supremacy.

"The alt-right, or alternative right, is a loosely connected far-right,[1] white nationalist movement."
oops

"Analysts describe white nationalism as overlapping with white supremacism and white separatism.[7][4][6][8][9][10] [...] White nationalists generally avoid the term "supremacy" because it has negative connotations.[13][14] Critics argue that the term "white nationalism" and ideas such as white pride exist solely to provide a sanitized public face for white supremacy, and that most white nationalist groups promote racial violence."

Womp womp.

[Kustonia]

friendly reminder that the Alt-Right does not idenitify nor is widely considered a White Supremacist organization.

Good fact-check.

[LiberNovusAmericae]

I don't think the whole alt-right will become a giant terrorist group, but there will be terrorist groups that are part of the alt-right.The Attomwaffen Division are an excellent example, and they already murdered five people.

[Bezkoshtovnya]

The term originated from Richard Spencer, so you're wrong there.



We certainly can say the alt-right is all white supremacists, since that's what the movement's built on.

It's not. You don't get to decide what a movement is built on.

It is though, at least originally. A generally common platform of the alt right, even though it is relatively hard to pin down the movement as a whole, is some degree of white nationalism. The vast majority are not generally neo nazis or go around advocating death but they are a minority in the movement, while the majority dont go as far as to actually advocate violence towards other races.

[Holy Tedalonia]

AntiFa is quite obviously an organized group. It's an conglomerate of groups, yes, but they all act very similarly. Which is not the case of the alt-right. AntiFA uses the same flag, the same name, and nearly everything in a very similar way to the other groups of their kind.

You do realize that you just saying things doesn't make it magically true, right?

I could use a fucking AntiFA flag right now, that doesn't magically mean I'm in any way in an organization.

Tbf, that’s the equivalent to lying. It implies that you are part of the group, as people have or may have limited knowledge to who you are. I don’t recall alt-right recruiting people as much as trying to convince people into believing their beliefs. I doubt Richard Spencer truly represents and leads the entirety of alt right. Nor do I think many alt right groups make him out to be the leader.

[Torrocca]

Acting similar =/= being an organization.

They don't just act similar. They follow the same strategies, they use the same flags, the same name, and last time i checked they call themselves a group. Unless there's been some kind of Antifa civil war that i haven't heard about.

TIL'd standing against Fascism = suddenly being the same organization across the globe.

10/10

[Skarten]

"The alt-right, or alternative right, is a loosely connected far-right,[1] white nationalist movement."
oops

"Analysts describe white nationalism as overlapping with white supremacism and white separatism.[7][4][6][8][9][10] [...] White nationalists generally avoid the term "supremacy" because it has negative connotations.[13][14] Critics argue that the term "white nationalism" and ideas such as white pride exist solely to provide a sanitized public face for white supremacy, and that most white nationalist groups promote racial violence."

Womp womp.

That sounds retarded.

So then everyone except whites are allowed to be proud about their race?

It's either everyone or no one.

[The Black Party]

"The alt-right, or alternative right, is a loosely connected far-right,[1] white nationalist movement."
oops

"Analysts describe white nationalism as overlapping with white supremacism and white separatism.[7][4][6][8][9][10] [...] White nationalists generally avoid the term "supremacy" because it has negative connotations.[13][14] Critics argue that the term "white nationalism" and ideas such as white pride exist solely to provide a sanitized public face for white supremacy, and that most white nationalist groups promote racial violence."

Womp womp.

You convienietly left this part out, lemmie pick that up for you.

"White nationalism is a type of nationalism or pan-nationalism which espouses the belief that white people are a race[1] and seeks to develop and maintain a white national identity [...] White separatism is the pursuit of a "white-only state"; [white] supremacism is the belief that white people are superior to nonwhites and should dominate them, taking ideas from social Darwinism and Nazism."

Poor "analysts".

[Torrocca]

You're right that I don't get to decide on what a movement is built on; that's what the chucklefucks in the Alt-Right did for themselves by building it as a white supremacist movement. :^3

Once again, [Citation Needed].

Please, go commit Diavolo ":)"

Hun, it's not my fault you chose to ignore my bit of evidence posted to support my claims:

[Citation Needed]

Literally doesn't even take a second to search this shit up on Google, chief. The fucking movement started as white supremacy and was built as white supremacy.

[Holy Tedalonia]

It's not. You don't get to decide what a movement is built on.

The vast majority are not generally neo nazis or go around advocating death but they are a minority in the movement, while the majority dont go as far as to actually advocate violence towards other races.

How can one be both a minority and a majority?

[Skarten]

They don't just act similar. They follow the same strategies, they use the same flags, the same name, and last time i checked they call themselves a group. Unless there's been some kind of Antifa civil war that i haven't heard about.

TIL'd standing against Fascism = suddenly being the same organization across the globe.

10/10

TIL 'd Beating up random people with bike locks and nearly killing cats for looking like Hitler = standing against fascism

[Torrocca]

"Analysts describe white nationalism as overlapping with white supremacism and white separatism.[7][4][6][8][9][10] [...] White nationalists generally avoid the term "supremacy" because it has negative connotations.[13][14] Critics argue that the term "white nationalism" and ideas such as white pride exist solely to provide a sanitized public face for white supremacy, and that most white nationalist groups promote racial violence."

Womp womp.

That sounds retarded.

So then everyone except whites are allowed to be proud about their race?

It's either everyone or no one.

Who gives a single Goddamned fuck in the world right now about that? That's utterly irrelevant to the fact that the Alt-Right is a white supremacist movement, through and through.

[Skarten]

Once again, [Citation Needed].

Please, go commit Diavolo ":)"

Hun, it's not my fault you chose to ignore my bit of evidence posted to support my claims:

Literally doesn't even take a second to search this shit up on Google, chief. The fucking movement started as white supremacy and was built as white supremacy.

Imagine thinking wikipedia is an unbiased source

[Evil Dictators Happyland]

TIL'd standing against Fascism = suddenly being the same organization across the globe.

10/10

TIL 'd Beating up random people with bike locks and nearly killing cats for looking like Hitler = standing against fascism

Either stop bringing these two points up or stop trying to argue that antifa is a terrorist organization. Your choice, but you can't have both and make sense.

[Bezkoshtovnya]

The vast majority are not generally neo nazis or go around advocating death but they are a minority in the movement, while the majority dont go as far as to actually advocate violence towards other races.

How can one be both a minority and a majority?

Sorry I probably phrased that wrong...I meant to say that while there is a minority that embrace neo Nazism most member sig the alt right dont go that far and actually denounce those that do to some extent, but as a whole the group is made up of those that are fundamentally concerned with white identity.

[Torrocca]

TIL'd standing against Fascism = suddenly being the same organization across the globe.

10/10

TIL 'd Beating up random people with bike locks and nearly killing cats for looking like Hitler = standing against fascism

TIL'd one bike-lock incident = AntiFA is literally attacking everyone ever with bike-locks! D:

Fucking lmao.

Also, way to disprove your own argument that AntiFA is an organization. :^)

[Gormwood]

TIL'd standing against Fascism = suddenly being the same organization across the globe.

10/10

TIL 'd Beating up random people with bike locks and nearly killing cats for looking like Hitler = standing against fascism

So bike locks are deadlier than guns when it's convenient for a narrative.

[The Black Forrest]

Hun, it's not my fault you chose to ignore my bit of evidence posted to support my claims:

Imagine thinking wikipedia is an unbiased source

Bias? What information is wrong in the page?