Alt-right. A terrorist movement in the making?

[Thermodolia]

I’m not a fascist. I’m a socialist and a borderline Stalinist

You shifted quite hard to the left compared to the last time I checked, Therm...

In all reality I’m not that hard left but I am very close to Titoism

[Druulis]

No, I'd compare antifa to a group of volunteers picking up litter on the highway. They're not saving the world, but they're doing their part to clean up the streets.

Antifa are the ones who have a penchent for destroying storefronts and attacking trashcans?
That's a funny way of cleaning up the street

Fascists want to commit genocide and mass murder for their ethnostate but all you care about is minor property damage?

[North German Realm]

Antifa are the ones who have a penchent for destroying storefronts and attacking trashcans?
That's a funny way of cleaning up the street

Fascists want to commit genocide and mass murder for their ethnostate but all you care about is minor property damage?

I mean, yes. They're probably not going to be in the risk of getting killed in a genocide if the fascists come to power, the immediate threat of broken glasses is, therefore, more important for them. (I realize how stupid and immoral this thought process is, but it's still the least stupid or immoral reasoning I can think of for a person not to care about fascists chanting Blood and Soil but getting so bothered with broken glass and burnt trashcans.)

[Saiwania]

Yeah, it's part of being an adult. Have fun being a rebel when you don't pay your taxes and men with guns take you away.

You don't need to pay taxes at all if you don't own real estate or assets of any sort and you don't earn income and effectively live rent free. But its not that great of a life to keep up. If you do have to pay tax, there is no reason in my view- to pay more than you have to. Once you're rich enough, it is definitely worth it to get accounting experts to get your effective taxes as close to zero as possible. This is how the rich stay rich. Taxes won't do nothing for you if you actually care about how your money gets spent.

[Seges]

Yes, in the status quo antifa, or people "affiliating' with antifa do more violence then any people claiming to be on the far-right.

Proportions. Generally, the most antifa does is either acts of minor vandalism or minor physical violence. It can be denounced for hooliganism (though I wouldn't denounce or condemn it anyway), but it is nowhere near what the normal act of violence done by one of the far-right looks like, which is generally murder, successful or attempted.

I haven't seen any attempt of murder from the right and I would like it if you proved or provided any instances where that did indeed happen.

[Druulis]

Yeah, it's part of being an adult. Have fun being a rebel when you don't pay your taxes and men with guns take you away.

You don't need to pay taxes at all if you don't own real estate or assets of any sort and you don't earn income and effectively live rent free. But its not that great of a life to keep up. If you do have to pay tax, there is no reason in my view- to pay more than you have to. Once you're rich enough, it is definitely worth it to get accounting experts to get your effective taxes as close to zero as possible. This is how the rich stay rich. Taxes won't do nothing for you if you actually care about how your money gets spent.

Don't post here.

[North German Realm]

Proportions. Generally, the most antifa does is either acts of minor vandalism or minor physical violence. It can be denounced for hooliganism (though I wouldn't denounce or condemn it anyway), but it is nowhere near what the normal act of violence done by one of the far-right looks like, which is generally murder, successful or attempted.

I haven't seen any attempt of murder from the right and I would like it if you proved or provided any instances where that did indeed happen.

Do the Christchurch Mosque or the Pittsburgh or Poway synagogue shootings count? The last one happened like... less than two weeks ago.

[Gormwood]

I haven't seen any attempt of murder from the right and I would like it if you proved or provided any instances where that did indeed happen.

Do the Christchurch Mosque or the Pittsburgh or Poway synagogue shootings count? The last one happened like... less than two weeks ago.

Of course not silly, "Mentally Ill Lone Wolves," yada yada yada.

[North German Realm]

Do the Christchurch Mosque or the Pittsburgh or Poway synagogue shootings count? The last one happened like... less than two weeks ago.

Of course not silly, "Mentally Ill Lone Wolves," yada yada yada.

TBH, every single Muslim terrorist event is also a Far-Right terrorist event too, since the Muslims are definitely not left-wing by any stretch of the word.

[Thuzbekistan]

Proportions. Generally, the most antifa does is either acts of minor vandalism or minor physical violence. It can be denounced for hooliganism (though I wouldn't denounce or condemn it anyway), but it is nowhere near what the normal act of violence done by one of the far-right looks like, which is generally murder, successful or attempted.

I haven't seen any attempt of murder from the right and I would like it if you proved or provided any instances where that did indeed happen.

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Right-wing_terrorism

[Absolutus]

lol

[Washington Resistance Army]

Of course not silly, "Mentally Ill Lone Wolves," yada yada yada.

TBH, every single Muslim terrorist event is also a Far-Right terrorist event too, since the Muslims are definitely not left-wing by any stretch of the word.

This is one of those times where the left-right scale really falls apart and shows its age. Fundamentalist Muslims don't belong in the same group as Fascists and Nazis imo.

[North German Realm]

TBH, every single Muslim terrorist event is also a Far-Right terrorist event too, since the Muslims are definitely not left-wing by any stretch of the word.

This is one of those times where the left-right scale really falls apart and shows its age. Fundamentalist Muslims don't belong in the same group as Fascists and Nazis imo.

While I don't disagree with you on the redundancy of the Left-Right scale, I have to disagree on the "they aren't like Fascists and Nazis" thing. Fundementalist Muslims (really, Apart from a few glaring exceptions, every single Muslim adhering to Quran and Sunnah imo) belong to what is essentially a religious, rather than nationalist, equivalent of Fascism.

[American Fascist Commonwealth]

Alright, since no one in this forum seems to have any actual experience or understanding of the Alt-Right, let me explain it.
The Alt-Right is not a terrorist organization, but rather a stepping stone towards the Third-Positionist Movement, which will liberate the world from degenerate modernism, Marxism, egalitarianism, secularism, and other evils. Most fascists do not like Alt-Righters very much, and see people such as Milo and Lauren Southern to simply be engaging in politics for attention and their own personal gain. To call the Alt-Right Fascist is inaccurate, as it is conservative/libertarian in nature, just with more of a nationalist twist. Now, as for people in alternative politics having actual jobs and degrees, it is hit or miss, depending upon the level of dedication, but there are a number of us who are not obese neckbeards living in our parent’s basement.
Though many have been blinded by the modern world, as I once was, when the proper research has been done, and sources on all sides have been analyzed, the truth of fascism will reveal itself. We have seen the harmful effects of modern society in our own lives, through broken families, and loved ones lost due to crime. We have researched the statistics on crime and race, we are well read in Plato, Aristotle, Rousseau, Locke, Hobbes, and other philosophers. To call us uneducated or ignorant is absurd.


Also, most in the Alt-Right/Far-Right do not condone acts of violence. We train and stockpile for self-defense when the corrupt system finally collapses, but most of us loath the mass-shooters and Day of the Rope types.

[Shanhwa]

This is one of those times where the left-right scale really falls apart and shows its age. Fundamentalist Muslims don't belong in the same group as Fascists and Nazis imo.

While I don't disagree with you on the redundancy of the Left-Right scale, I have to disagree on the "they aren't like Fascists and Nazis" thing. Fundementalist Muslims (really, Apart from a few glaring exceptions, every single Muslim adhering to Quran and Sunnah imo) belong to what is essentially a religious, rather than nationalist, equivalent of Fascism.

Clerical Fascism is a thing, yes.

[Shanhwa]

Alright, since no one in this forum seems to have any actual experience or understanding of the Alt-Right, let me explain it.
The Alt-Right is not a terrorist organization, but rather a stepping stone towards the Third-Positionist Movement, which will liberate the world from degenerate modernism, Marxism, egalitarianism, secularism, and other evils. Most fascists do not like Alt-Righters very much, and see people such as Milo and Lauren Southern to simply be engaging in politics for attention and their own personal gain. To call the Alt-Right Fascist is inaccurate, as it is conservative/libertarian in nature, just with more of a nationalist twist. Now, as for people in alternative politics having actual jobs and degrees, it is hit or miss, depending upon the level of dedication, but there are a number of us who are not obese neckbeards living in our parent’s basement.
Though many have been blinded by the modern world, as I once was, when the proper research has been done, and sources on all sides have been analyzed, the truth of fascism will reveal itself. We have seen the harmful effects of modern society in our own lives, through broken families, and loved ones lost due to crime. We have researched the statistics on crime and race, we are well read in Plato, Aristotle, Rousseau, Locke, Hobbes, and other philosophers. To call us uneducated or ignorant is absurd.


Also, most in the Alt-Right/Far-Right do not condone acts of violence. We train and stockpile for self-defense when the corrupt system finally collapses, but most of us loath the mass-shooters and Day of the Rope types.

Secularism isn’t evil. The Church and State have no purpose in being conjoined.

Milo Yiannopoulos and Lauren Southern aren’t alt-right.

[Arayas]

Antifa are the ones who have a penchent for destroying storefronts and attacking trashcans?
That's a funny way of cleaning up the street

Fascists want to commit genocide and mass murder for their ethnostate but all you care about is minor property damage?

Prove it, I always see this idiotic claim yet its people like antifa always talking about how whites are going to go extinct and that its a good thing.
All i've ever seen from the "altright" is that they want to live in white communities without being part of a state and society that constantly demonizes white people and sees them as a group to be eliminated from existence.

[Tankmen]

Alright, since no one in this forum seems to have any actual experience or understanding of the Alt-Right, let me explain it.
The Alt-Right is not a terrorist organization, but rather a stepping stone towards the Third-Positionist Movement, which will liberate the world from degenerate modernism, Marxism, egalitarianism, secularism, and other evils. Most fascists do not like Alt-Righters very much, and see people such as Milo and Lauren Southern to simply be engaging in politics for attention and their own personal gain. To call the Alt-Right Fascist is inaccurate, as it is conservative/libertarian in nature, just with more of a nationalist twist. Now, as for people in alternative politics having actual jobs and degrees, it is hit or miss, depending upon the level of dedication, but there are a number of us who are not obese neckbeards living in our parent’s basement.
Though many have been blinded by the modern world, as I once was, when the proper research has been done, and sources on all sides have been analyzed, the truth of fascism will reveal itself. We have seen the harmful effects of modern society in our own lives, through broken families, and loved ones lost due to crime. We have researched the statistics on crime and race, we are well read in Plato, Aristotle, Rousseau, Locke, Hobbes, and other philosophers. To call us uneducated or ignorant is absurd.


Also, most in the Alt-Right/Far-Right do not condone acts of violence. We train and stockpile for self-defense when the corrupt system finally collapses, but most of us loath the mass-shooters and Day of the Rope types.

Then explain to me the difference between alt-right and its more moderate offshoot, the so-called "alt-lite".

Milo Yiannopoulos and Lauren Southern aren’t alt-right.

They are and they aren't depending on however you define the "alt-right". Some would consider them alt-right, others like you not so much.

Fascists want to commit genocide and mass murder for their ethnostate but all you care about is minor property damage?

Prove it, I always see this idiotic claim yet its people like antifa always talking about how whites are going to go extinct and that its a good thing.

Someone's getting themselves hurt by pure memes while the holocaust is still real.

All i've ever seen from the "altright" is that they want to live in white communities without being part of a state and society that constantly demonizes white people and sees them as a group to be eliminated from existence.

So a bunch of white people with a persecution complex then? This alt-right sure is a complex thing but for other reasons than how alt-rightists like others to view them.

[Druulis]

Fascists want to commit genocide and mass murder for their ethnostate but all you care about is minor property damage?

Prove it, I always see this idiotic claim yet its people like antifa always talking about how whites are going to go extinct and that its a good thing.
All i've ever seen from the "altright" is that they want to live in white communities without being part of a state and society that constantly demonizes white people and sees them as a group to be eliminated from existence.

Looks like we got a Nazi here.

[Jakker]

Looks like we got a Nazi here.

Clearly, you are not learning from your previous warnings. *** 7-day ban for Flamebaiting *** I would encourage you to change your behavior before you lose this nation.

[Amuaplye]

Fascists want to commit genocide and mass murder for their ethnostate but all you care about is minor property damage?

Prove it, I always see this idiotic claim yet its people like antifa always talking about how whites are going to go extinct and that its a good thing.
All i've ever seen from the "altright" is that they want to live in white communities without being part of a state and society that constantly demonizes white people and sees them as a group to be eliminated from existence.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Unite_the_Right_rally
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Centennia ... rk_bombing
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Colorado_ ... d_shooting
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Oklahoma_City_bombing
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Alan_Berg
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Charlesto ... h_shooting
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/David_Copeland
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2009%E2%8 ... _shootings
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2016_Munich_shooting
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wisconsin ... e_shooting
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pittsburg ... e_shooting
https://www.nytimes.com/2019/04/29/us/s ... oting.html
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Anders_Behring_Breivik
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Trollh%C3 ... ool_attack
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Murder_of_Jo_Cox
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Christchu ... _shootings
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/October_2 ... g_attempts
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jefferson ... r_shooting

On average, that's 19 killed, 76 wounded. How about the left?

[Washington Resistance Army]

Prove it, I always see this idiotic claim yet its people like antifa always talking about how whites are going to go extinct and that its a good thing.
All i've ever seen from the "altright" is that they want to live in white communities without being part of a state and society that constantly demonizes white people and sees them as a group to be eliminated from existence.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Unite_the_Right_rally
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Centennia ... rk_bombing
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Colorado_ ... d_shooting
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Oklahoma_City_bombing
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Alan_Berg
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Charlesto ... h_shooting
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/David_Copeland
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2009%E2%8 ... _shootings
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2016_Munich_shooting
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wisconsin ... e_shooting
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pittsburg ... e_shooting
https://www.nytimes.com/2019/04/29/us/s ... oting.html
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Anders_Behring_Breivik
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Trollh%C3 ... ool_attack
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Murder_of_Jo_Cox
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Christchu ... _shootings
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/October_2 ... g_attempts
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jefferson ... r_shooting

On average, that's 19 killed, 76 wounded. How about the left?

Gotta disagree with having Oklahoma City in there. Whilst McVeigh did read the Turner Diaries and did draw some inspiration from them and other such works (which isn't shocking, Pierce wrote a great deal on the modern Urban Guerilla concept) it was mainly an anti-federal attack, not an alt-right or racist attack.

[Diarcesia]

Prove it, I always see this idiotic claim yet its people like antifa always talking about how whites are going to go extinct and that its a good thing.
All i've ever seen from the "altright" is that they want to live in white communities without being part of a state and society that constantly demonizes white people and sees them as a group to be eliminated from existence.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Unite_the_Right_rally
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Centennia ... rk_bombing
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Colorado_ ... d_shooting
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Oklahoma_City_bombing
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Alan_Berg
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Charlesto ... h_shooting
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/David_Copeland
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2009%E2%8 ... _shootings
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2016_Munich_shooting
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wisconsin ... e_shooting
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pittsburg ... e_shooting
https://www.nytimes.com/2019/04/29/us/s ... oting.html
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Anders_Behring_Breivik
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Trollh%C3 ... ool_attack
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Murder_of_Jo_Cox
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Christchu ... _shootings
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/October_2 ... g_attempts
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jefferson ... r_shooting

On average, that's 19 killed, 76 wounded. How about the left?

In b4 Stalin and Mao, but it's neither here or there. The fact that right-wing terrorists do these is enough disgrace.

[Amuaplye]

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Unite_the_Right_rally
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Centennia ... rk_bombing
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Colorado_ ... d_shooting
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Oklahoma_City_bombing
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Alan_Berg
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Charlesto ... h_shooting
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/David_Copeland
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2009%E2%8 ... _shootings
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2016_Munich_shooting
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wisconsin ... e_shooting
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pittsburg ... e_shooting
https://www.nytimes.com/2019/04/29/us/s ... oting.html
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Anders_Behring_Breivik
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Trollh%C3 ... ool_attack
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Murder_of_Jo_Cox
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Christchu ... _shootings
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/October_2 ... g_attempts
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jefferson ... r_shooting

On average, that's 19 killed, 76 wounded. How about the left?

Gotta disagree with having Oklahoma City in there. Whilst McVeigh did read the Turner Diaries and did draw some inspiration from them and other such works (which isn't shocking, Pierce wrote a great deal on the modern Urban Guerilla concept) it was mainly an anti-federal attack, not an alt-right or racist attack.

Although, the article on right-wing terrorism does cite the Oklahoma City bombing as an example.

[The Xenopolis Confederation]

TBH, every single Muslim terrorist event is also a Far-Right terrorist event too, since the Muslims are definitely not left-wing by any stretch of the word.

This is one of those times where the left-right scale really falls apart and shows its age. Fundamentalist Muslims don't belong in the same group as Fascists and Nazis imo.

Why not? The pretty much share most of the same beliefs when you get down to it.