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Postby Czechoslovakia and Zakarpattia » Mon Apr 29, 2019 12:03 pm

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The Derpy Democratic Republic Of Herp wrote:Anti vaxxers, anti environmentalists, calls for harming or killing anyone they don't like.



W H E E Z E

By the decree of my word, all flat-earthers are now leftists.

Didn't cha know climatologists and "warmists" are far-left ultracommunist and Maoist hellspawns who want to destroy America's economic powerhouse as well? Flat-earthers also generally think anyone who subscribes to the heliocentric model is a "leftie" or connected to the "round-earth Illuminati conspiracy". And now they have reached the ultimate evolution. Being both heavily rightwing and leftwing at the same time. The Schrodinger Earthists in action.

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Postby Fedel » Mon Apr 29, 2019 12:03 pm

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Skarten wrote:
W H E E Z E

By the decree of my word, all flat-earthers are now leftists.

Flat Earther's are closer to right then left because of the belief of the International Globalist NWO.


Think you missed the point.

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Postby Bear Stearns » Mon Apr 29, 2019 12:04 pm

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Name a time in history when being a minority has ever been a good thing.


Funnily enough, the western world.


This is true. Minorities in the modern West are historically blessed.
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Postby The Galactic Liberal Democracy » Mon Apr 29, 2019 12:04 pm

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The Galactic Liberal Democracy wrote:No, they skip right to shooting dissenters in the streets. That’s not good at all.


But if you're killing people who disagree with you, then what's so bad about that? You're removing a threat to your power structure.

I forgot some people don’t care about human rights.
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Postby Evil Dictators Happyland » Mon Apr 29, 2019 12:04 pm

Skarten wrote:
Evil Dictators Happyland wrote:*ding ding ding ding* And we have our first "but the left is just as bad because ANTIFA!" poster. Don't worry, there will be more, and definitely don't ask them to explain why antifa is just as bad, because they won't.

Let me ask you a question here. Be honest.

Did you even read what i said?

Or are you just so deep in the rabbit hole that you can't bear the tought that the left has quite literally took the examples some old conservatives were using as examples of what would happen and decided it was not only a great manual, but that they'd go tenfold past it. They didn't just slip in the slippery slope, they slid on it like a goddamn water slide

I read what you wrote, I just don't see how the crimes of the left excuse those of the right. Radical leftism is something that should be dealt with, yes, but if you actively ignore the alt-right because of it, you both defeat the point of beating radial ideologies and give left-wingers more reasons to radicalize.
Try explaining why they shouldn't be considered a terror organization, and then I might find some merit in what you have to say. But if you're just going to hurl "no u"s at anyone who disagrees, then you have nothing worth reading.
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Postby The Black Party » Mon Apr 29, 2019 12:04 pm

Fedel wrote:
The Black Party wrote:Flat Earther's are closer to right then left because of the belief of the International Globalist NWO.


Think you missed the point.

just a little "the more you know" snippit
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Postby Bear Stearns » Mon Apr 29, 2019 12:05 pm

The Derpy Democratic Republic Of Herp wrote:
Skarten wrote:
W H E E Z E

By the decree of my word, all flat-earthers are now leftists.


What?

Anti vaxxers exist on both sides and are dangerous on both sides.

The right is where the majority of anti environmentalists are, and that's still dangerous.


Interestingly, the early conservation movement in the 1910s and 1920s was dominated by old school conservatives, many of whom were eugenicists, white supremacists, etc.
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Postby The Derpy Democratic Republic Of Herp » Mon Apr 29, 2019 12:05 pm

Fedel wrote:
The Black Party wrote:Flat Earther's are closer to right then left because of the belief of the International Globalist NWO.


Think you missed the point.


I don't think there was a point, his post was just confusing.

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Postby The Black Party » Mon Apr 29, 2019 12:05 pm

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The Derpy Democratic Republic Of Herp wrote:
What?

Anti vaxxers exist on both sides and are dangerous on both sides.

The right is where the majority of anti environmentalists are, and that's still dangerous.


Interestingly, the early conservation movement in the 1910s and 1920s was dominated by old school conservatives, many of whom were eugenicists, white supremacists, etc.

Difficult to judge men of the 1920's by modern standards.
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Postby Bear Stearns » Mon Apr 29, 2019 12:05 pm

The Galactic Liberal Democracy wrote:
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But if you're killing people who disagree with you, then what's so bad about that? You're removing a threat to your power structure.

I forgot some people don’t care about human rights.


I'm being facetious. Clearly just executing everyone you disagree with is not a solution.
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Postby Skarten » Mon Apr 29, 2019 12:06 pm

The Derpy Democratic Republic Of Herp wrote:
Skarten wrote:
W H E E Z E

By the decree of my word, all flat-earthers are now leftists.


What?

Anti vaxxers exist on both sides and are dangerous on both sides.

The right is where the majority of anti environmentalists are, and that's still dangerous.

Then don't call them right-wing problems.
Also, china would like to have a word with you.


Skarten wrote:
The Derpy Democratic Republic Of Herp wrote:
And that is comparing apples to oranges.



It really ain't chief. Unless, of course, you mean that this thread is just for shitting on right-wingers rather than actually debating.


It is for debating, but putting a law up for vote is not equal to shooting[/quote]

You're right, it can be many, many times worse.

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Postby Skarten » Mon Apr 29, 2019 12:07 pm

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Skarten wrote:
Funnily enough, the western world.


This is true. Minorities in the modern West are historically blessed.


Just like minorities in anywhere else.

Something that hasn't changed at all, really.

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Postby Kragholm Free States » Mon Apr 29, 2019 12:07 pm

The Black Party wrote:
Skarten wrote:
W H E E Z E

By the decree of my word, all flat-earthers are now leftists.

Flat Earther's are closer to right then left because of the belief of the International Globalist NWO.


The left believes that as well though, it's just made up of Russian Nazis instead of teh j00s!11!1!!
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Postby Fedel » Mon Apr 29, 2019 12:07 pm

The Derpy Democratic Republic Of Herp wrote:
Fedel wrote:
Think you missed the point.


I don't think there was a point, his post was just confusing.


Very possible, but I think the point was that people who use the term "alt right" don't have a clear label for it and it's generally just used as a shorthand to refer to people who believe ridiculous and/or reprehensible things. I.E. the crazy evil right wingers.

On that subject, it'd be cool if the OP could give us a definition for what THEY believe "alt right" means.
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Postby The Black Party » Mon Apr 29, 2019 12:08 pm

Kragholm Free States wrote:
The Black Party wrote:Flat Earther's are closer to right then left because of the belief of the International Globalist NWO.


The left believes that as well though, it's just made up of Russian Nazis instead of teh j00s!11!1!!

good point
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Postby Skarten » Mon Apr 29, 2019 12:08 pm

Czechoslovakia and Zakarpattia wrote:
Skarten wrote:
W H E E Z E

By the decree of my word, all flat-earthers are now leftists.

Didn't cha know climatologists and "warmists" are far-left ultracommunist and Maoist hellspawns who want to destroy America's economic powerhouse as well? Flat-earthers also generally think anyone who subscribes to the heliocentric model is a "leftie" or connected to the "round-earth Illuminati conspiracy". And now they have reached the ultimate evolution. Being both heavily rightwing and leftwing at the same time. The Schrodinger Earthists in action.


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I'm saying that calling anti-vaxxers a right wing thing is stupid.
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Postby Bear Stearns » Mon Apr 29, 2019 12:08 pm

Skarten wrote:
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This is true. Minorities in the modern West are historically blessed.


Just like minorities in anywhere else.

Something that hasn't changed at all, really.


No, minorities in non-Western countries are generally fucked.
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Postby The Black Party » Mon Apr 29, 2019 12:09 pm

Bear Stearns wrote:
Skarten wrote:
Just like minorities in anywhere else.

Something that hasn't changed at all, really.


No, minorities in non-Western countries are generally fucked.

Minorities in Western countries are generally well off
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Postby Evil Dictators Happyland » Mon Apr 29, 2019 12:09 pm

Skarten wrote:
The Derpy Democratic Republic Of Herp wrote:
What?

Anti vaxxers exist on both sides and are dangerous on both sides.

The right is where the majority of anti environmentalists are, and that's still dangerous.

Then don't call them right-wing problems.
Also, china would like to have a word with you.

China's "leftism" (if you can even call it that) is nothing like the leftism practiced in the rest of the world. China's fiercely corporatist, anti-environmentalist, and anti-minority, so criticism of them (while valid in 95% of cases) has nothing to do with actual leftism.

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Postby Skarten » Mon Apr 29, 2019 12:09 pm

Evil Dictators Happyland wrote:
Skarten wrote:Let me ask you a question here. Be honest.

Did you even read what i said?

Or are you just so deep in the rabbit hole that you can't bear the tought that the left has quite literally took the examples some old conservatives were using as examples of what would happen and decided it was not only a great manual, but that they'd go tenfold past it. They didn't just slip in the slippery slope, they slid on it like a goddamn water slide

I read what you wrote, I just don't see how the crimes of the left excuse those of the right. Radical leftism is something that should be dealt with, yes, but if you actively ignore the alt-right because of it, you both defeat the point of beating radial ideologies and give left-wingers more reasons to radicalize.
Try explaining why they shouldn't be considered a terror organization, and then I might find some merit in what you have to say. But if you're just going to hurl "no u"s at anyone who disagrees, then you have nothing worth reading.


Because they're not an terrorist group. A bunch of edgy people in the internet is not an terrorist group.

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Postby South Acren » Mon Apr 29, 2019 12:10 pm

And this is why people hate fascists, among other reasons...ahem. However call the alt-right movement a terrorist movement is a little extreme. You don't see me going and joining nazis and other of those groups do you? It clearly depended on how radical said person is.
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Postby Skarten » Mon Apr 29, 2019 12:10 pm

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Skarten wrote:
Just like minorities in anywhere else.

Something that hasn't changed at all, really.


No, minorities in non-Western countries are generally fucked.


I think he was using sarcasm.

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Postby Evil Dictators Happyland » Mon Apr 29, 2019 12:10 pm

Skarten wrote:
Evil Dictators Happyland wrote:I read what you wrote, I just don't see how the crimes of the left excuse those of the right. Radical leftism is something that should be dealt with, yes, but if you actively ignore the alt-right because of it, you both defeat the point of beating radial ideologies and give left-wingers more reasons to radicalize.
Try explaining why they shouldn't be considered a terror organization, and then I might find some merit in what you have to say. But if you're just going to hurl "no u"s at anyone who disagrees, then you have nothing worth reading.


Because they're not an terrorist group. A bunch of edgy people in the internet is not an terrorist group.

Then what about the people who identify as alt-righters and use alt-right ideology as a justification to commit terrorism? Do they not count just because the majority of the alt-right is morons?
EDIT: Should clarify that I don't mean all of the alt-right is designed for terrorism, but there's no single organization you can point to nor any sub-category I'm aware of that applies, so "alt-righters" is a convenient term. Kind of like how the "radical left" could mean anyone from Che Guevara to Bernie Sanders to Richard Nixon (he did, after all, create the EPA - radical leftism at its finest) according to some right-wingers.
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Postby Saiwania » Mon Apr 29, 2019 12:11 pm

The issue I have with the Left is that they're undermining and ruining the civilization our forefathers built. It is the Leftists' fault if they're angering the Right too much. The far right is needed as a counter to the Communists and the Leftists that want change for change's sake.
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