In all reality I’m not that hard left but I am very close to Titoism
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by Thermodolia » Sun May 05, 2019 9:02 am
by Druulis » Sun May 05, 2019 9:40 am
Arayas wrote:Page wrote:
No, I'd compare antifa to a group of volunteers picking up litter on the highway. They're not saving the world, but they're doing their part to clean up the streets.
Antifa are the ones who have a penchent for destroying storefronts and attacking trashcans?
That's a funny way of cleaning up the street
by North German Realm » Sun May 05, 2019 9:51 am
5 Nov, 2020
Die Morgenpost: "We will reconsider our relationship with Poland" Reichskanzler Lagenmauer says after Polish president protested North German ultimatum that made them restore reproductive freedom. | European Society votes not to persecute Hungary for atrocities committed against Serbs, "Giving a rogue state leave to commit genocide as it sees fit." North German delegate bemoans. | Negotiations still underway in Rome, delegates arguing over the extent of indemnities Turkey might be made to pay, lawful status of Turkish collaborators during occupation of Azerbaijan, Cyprus, Syria.
by Saiwania » Sun May 05, 2019 10:03 am
Washington Resistance Army wrote:Yeah, it's part of being an adult. Have fun being a rebel when you don't pay your taxes and men with guns take you away.
by Seges » Mon May 06, 2019 6:49 am
North German Realm wrote:Seges wrote:Yes, in the status quo antifa, or people "affiliating' with antifa do more violence then any people claiming to be on the far-right.
Proportions. Generally, the most antifa does is either acts of minor vandalism or minor physical violence. It can be denounced for hooliganism (though I wouldn't denounce or condemn it anyway), but it is nowhere near what the normal act of violence done by one of the far-right looks like, which is generally murder, successful or attempted.
by Druulis » Mon May 06, 2019 7:26 am
Saiwania wrote:Washington Resistance Army wrote:Yeah, it's part of being an adult. Have fun being a rebel when you don't pay your taxes and men with guns take you away.
You don't need to pay taxes at all if you don't own real estate or assets of any sort and you don't earn income and effectively live rent free. But its not that great of a life to keep up. If you do have to pay tax, there is no reason in my view- to pay more than you have to. Once you're rich enough, it is definitely worth it to get accounting experts to get your effective taxes as close to zero as possible. This is how the rich stay rich. Taxes won't do nothing for you if you actually care about how your money gets spent.
by North German Realm » Mon May 06, 2019 7:26 am
Seges wrote:North German Realm wrote:Proportions. Generally, the most antifa does is either acts of minor vandalism or minor physical violence. It can be denounced for hooliganism (though I wouldn't denounce or condemn it anyway), but it is nowhere near what the normal act of violence done by one of the far-right looks like, which is generally murder, successful or attempted.
I haven't seen any attempt of murder from the right and I would like it if you proved or provided any instances where that did indeed happen.
5 Nov, 2020
Die Morgenpost: "We will reconsider our relationship with Poland" Reichskanzler Lagenmauer says after Polish president protested North German ultimatum that made them restore reproductive freedom. | European Society votes not to persecute Hungary for atrocities committed against Serbs, "Giving a rogue state leave to commit genocide as it sees fit." North German delegate bemoans. | Negotiations still underway in Rome, delegates arguing over the extent of indemnities Turkey might be made to pay, lawful status of Turkish collaborators during occupation of Azerbaijan, Cyprus, Syria.
by Gormwood » Mon May 06, 2019 7:36 am
North German Realm wrote:Seges wrote:I haven't seen any attempt of murder from the right and I would like it if you proved or provided any instances where that did indeed happen.
Do the Christchurch Mosque or the Pittsburgh or Poway synagogue shootings count? The last one happened like... less than two weeks ago.
by North German Realm » Mon May 06, 2019 7:39 am
5 Nov, 2020
Die Morgenpost: "We will reconsider our relationship with Poland" Reichskanzler Lagenmauer says after Polish president protested North German ultimatum that made them restore reproductive freedom. | European Society votes not to persecute Hungary for atrocities committed against Serbs, "Giving a rogue state leave to commit genocide as it sees fit." North German delegate bemoans. | Negotiations still underway in Rome, delegates arguing over the extent of indemnities Turkey might be made to pay, lawful status of Turkish collaborators during occupation of Azerbaijan, Cyprus, Syria.
by Thuzbekistan » Mon May 06, 2019 7:54 am
Seges wrote:North German Realm wrote:Proportions. Generally, the most antifa does is either acts of minor vandalism or minor physical violence. It can be denounced for hooliganism (though I wouldn't denounce or condemn it anyway), but it is nowhere near what the normal act of violence done by one of the far-right looks like, which is generally murder, successful or attempted.
I haven't seen any attempt of murder from the right and I would like it if you proved or provided any instances where that did indeed happen.
by Washington Resistance Army » Mon May 06, 2019 8:57 am
by North German Realm » Mon May 06, 2019 9:13 am
While I don't disagree with you on the redundancy of the Left-Right scale, I have to disagree on the "they aren't like Fascists and Nazis" thing. Fundementalist Muslims (really, Apart from a few glaring exceptions, every single Muslim adhering to Quran and Sunnah imo) belong to what is essentially a religious, rather than nationalist, equivalent of Fascism.Washington Resistance Army wrote:North German Realm wrote:TBH, every single Muslim terrorist event is also a Far-Right terrorist event too, since the Muslims are definitely not left-wing by any stretch of the word.
This is one of those times where the left-right scale really falls apart and shows its age. Fundamentalist Muslims don't belong in the same group as Fascists and Nazis imo.
5 Nov, 2020
Die Morgenpost: "We will reconsider our relationship with Poland" Reichskanzler Lagenmauer says after Polish president protested North German ultimatum that made them restore reproductive freedom. | European Society votes not to persecute Hungary for atrocities committed against Serbs, "Giving a rogue state leave to commit genocide as it sees fit." North German delegate bemoans. | Negotiations still underway in Rome, delegates arguing over the extent of indemnities Turkey might be made to pay, lawful status of Turkish collaborators during occupation of Azerbaijan, Cyprus, Syria.
by American Fascist Commonwealth » Mon May 06, 2019 9:30 am
by Shanhwa » Mon May 06, 2019 9:38 am
North German Realm wrote:While I don't disagree with you on the redundancy of the Left-Right scale, I have to disagree on the "they aren't like Fascists and Nazis" thing. Fundementalist Muslims (really, Apart from a few glaring exceptions, every single Muslim adhering to Quran and Sunnah imo) belong to what is essentially a religious, rather than nationalist, equivalent of Fascism.Washington Resistance Army wrote:
This is one of those times where the left-right scale really falls apart and shows its age. Fundamentalist Muslims don't belong in the same group as Fascists and Nazis imo.
by Shanhwa » Mon May 06, 2019 9:40 am
American Fascist Commonwealth wrote:Alright, since no one in this forum seems to have any actual experience or understanding of the Alt-Right, let me explain it.
The Alt-Right is not a terrorist organization, but rather a stepping stone towards the Third-Positionist Movement, which will liberate the world from degenerate modernism, Marxism, egalitarianism, secularism, and other evils. Most fascists do not like Alt-Righters very much, and see people such as Milo and Lauren Southern to simply be engaging in politics for attention and their own personal gain. To call the Alt-Right Fascist is inaccurate, as it is conservative/libertarian in nature, just with more of a nationalist twist. Now, as for people in alternative politics having actual jobs and degrees, it is hit or miss, depending upon the level of dedication, but there are a number of us who are not obese neckbeards living in our parent’s basement.
Though many have been blinded by the modern world, as I once was, when the proper research has been done, and sources on all sides have been analyzed, the truth of fascism will reveal itself. We have seen the harmful effects of modern society in our own lives, through broken families, and loved ones lost due to crime. We have researched the statistics on crime and race, we are well read in Plato, Aristotle, Rousseau, Locke, Hobbes, and other philosophers. To call us uneducated or ignorant is absurd.
Also, most in the Alt-Right/Far-Right do not condone acts of violence. We train and stockpile for self-defense when the corrupt system finally collapses, but most of us loath the mass-shooters and Day of the Rope types.
by Arayas » Mon May 06, 2019 11:41 am
by Tankmen » Mon May 06, 2019 2:12 pm
American Fascist Commonwealth wrote:Alright, since no one in this forum seems to have any actual experience or understanding of the Alt-Right, let me explain it.
The Alt-Right is not a terrorist organization, but rather a stepping stone towards the Third-Positionist Movement, which will liberate the world from degenerate modernism, Marxism, egalitarianism, secularism, and other evils. Most fascists do not like Alt-Righters very much, and see people such as Milo and Lauren Southern to simply be engaging in politics for attention and their own personal gain. To call the Alt-Right Fascist is inaccurate, as it is conservative/libertarian in nature, just with more of a nationalist twist. Now, as for people in alternative politics having actual jobs and degrees, it is hit or miss, depending upon the level of dedication, but there are a number of us who are not obese neckbeards living in our parent’s basement.
Though many have been blinded by the modern world, as I once was, when the proper research has been done, and sources on all sides have been analyzed, the truth of fascism will reveal itself. We have seen the harmful effects of modern society in our own lives, through broken families, and loved ones lost due to crime. We have researched the statistics on crime and race, we are well read in Plato, Aristotle, Rousseau, Locke, Hobbes, and other philosophers. To call us uneducated or ignorant is absurd.
Also, most in the Alt-Right/Far-Right do not condone acts of violence. We train and stockpile for self-defense when the corrupt system finally collapses, but most of us loath the mass-shooters and Day of the Rope types.
Shanhwa wrote:Milo Yiannopoulos and Lauren Southern aren’t alt-right.
Arayas wrote:All i've ever seen from the "altright" is that they want to live in white communities without being part of a state and society that constantly demonizes white people and sees them as a group to be eliminated from existence.
by Druulis » Mon May 06, 2019 5:29 pm
Arayas wrote:Druulis wrote:
Fascists want to commit genocide and mass murder for their ethnostate but all you care about is minor property damage?
Prove it, I always see this idiotic claim yet its people like antifa always talking about how whites are going to go extinct and that its a good thing.
All i've ever seen from the "altright" is that they want to live in white communities without being part of a state and society that constantly demonizes white people and sees them as a group to be eliminated from existence.
by Jakker » Mon May 06, 2019 5:53 pm
Druulis wrote:Looks like we got a Nazi here.
The Bruce wrote:Mostly I feel sorry for [raiders], because they put in all this effort and at the end of the day have nothing to show for it and have created nothing.
by Amuaplye » Mon May 06, 2019 6:30 pm
Arayas wrote:Druulis wrote:
Fascists want to commit genocide and mass murder for their ethnostate but all you care about is minor property damage?
Prove it, I always see this idiotic claim yet its people like antifa always talking about how whites are going to go extinct and that its a good thing.
All i've ever seen from the "altright" is that they want to live in white communities without being part of a state and society that constantly demonizes white people and sees them as a group to be eliminated from existence.
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by Washington Resistance Army » Mon May 06, 2019 6:37 pm
Amuaplye wrote:Arayas wrote:
Prove it, I always see this idiotic claim yet its people like antifa always talking about how whites are going to go extinct and that its a good thing.
All i've ever seen from the "altright" is that they want to live in white communities without being part of a state and society that constantly demonizes white people and sees them as a group to be eliminated from existence.https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Unite_the_Right_rally
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Centennia ... rk_bombing
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Colorado_ ... d_shooting
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Oklahoma_City_bombing
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Alan_Berg
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Charlesto ... h_shooting
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/David_Copeland
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2009%E2%8 ... _shootings
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2016_Munich_shooting
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wisconsin ... e_shooting
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pittsburg ... e_shooting
https://www.nytimes.com/2019/04/29/us/s ... oting.html
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Anders_Behring_Breivik
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Trollh%C3 ... ool_attack
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Murder_of_Jo_Cox
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Christchu ... _shootings
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/October_2 ... g_attempts
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jefferson ... r_shooting
On average, that's 19 killed, 76 wounded. How about the left?
by Diarcesia » Mon May 06, 2019 6:39 pm
Amuaplye wrote:Arayas wrote:
Prove it, I always see this idiotic claim yet its people like antifa always talking about how whites are going to go extinct and that its a good thing.
All i've ever seen from the "altright" is that they want to live in white communities without being part of a state and society that constantly demonizes white people and sees them as a group to be eliminated from existence.https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Unite_the_Right_rally
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Centennia ... rk_bombing
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Colorado_ ... d_shooting
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Oklahoma_City_bombing
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Alan_Berg
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Charlesto ... h_shooting
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/David_Copeland
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2009%E2%8 ... _shootings
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2016_Munich_shooting
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wisconsin ... e_shooting
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pittsburg ... e_shooting
https://www.nytimes.com/2019/04/29/us/s ... oting.html
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Anders_Behring_Breivik
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Trollh%C3 ... ool_attack
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Murder_of_Jo_Cox
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Christchu ... _shootings
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/October_2 ... g_attempts
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jefferson ... r_shooting
On average, that's 19 killed, 76 wounded. How about the left?
by Amuaplye » Mon May 06, 2019 6:42 pm
Washington Resistance Army wrote:Amuaplye wrote:https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Unite_the_Right_rally
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Centennia ... rk_bombing
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Colorado_ ... d_shooting
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Oklahoma_City_bombing
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Alan_Berg
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Charlesto ... h_shooting
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/David_Copeland
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2009%E2%8 ... _shootings
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2016_Munich_shooting
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wisconsin ... e_shooting
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pittsburg ... e_shooting
https://www.nytimes.com/2019/04/29/us/s ... oting.html
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Anders_Behring_Breivik
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Trollh%C3 ... ool_attack
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Murder_of_Jo_Cox
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Christchu ... _shootings
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/October_2 ... g_attempts
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jefferson ... r_shooting
On average, that's 19 killed, 76 wounded. How about the left?
Gotta disagree with having Oklahoma City in there. Whilst McVeigh did read the Turner Diaries and did draw some inspiration from them and other such works (which isn't shocking, Pierce wrote a great deal on the modern Urban Guerilla concept) it was mainly an anti-federal attack, not an alt-right or racist attack.
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by The Xenopolis Confederation » Mon May 06, 2019 6:46 pm
Washington Resistance Army wrote:North German Realm wrote:TBH, every single Muslim terrorist event is also a Far-Right terrorist event too, since the Muslims are definitely not left-wing by any stretch of the word.
This is one of those times where the left-right scale really falls apart and shows its age. Fundamentalist Muslims don't belong in the same group as Fascists and Nazis imo.
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