Alt-right. A terrorist movement in the making?

[Saiwania]

Just going to inform you that if you keep making obviously rhetorical posts meant to stir up conflict between people I'll have to take action.

My opinions are valid here, even if it has the net effect of offending certain people, provided I don't go a bridge too far, that is how I interpet things anyways. The rules that apply here are more liberal than I want, but it isn't too hard for me to find the line with enough effort. I'm confident that by the end of this year, I'll be so in the clear. I've lost interest in being as active in part, because there are other places who're more receptive and won't give me even a quarter as much trouble over conduct or politics.

[Holy Tedalonia]

And we refer to genetic differences as different races.

... That's not how the concept of race works, and is again ignoring the fact that racialists arbitrarily define who is or isn't white or black or whatnot.

Because we’ve done a terrible job classifying race. It’s not like we manage it or anything. Your arguement is basically,

“they’re arbitrarily defining the periodic table.”

“Then it is merely a social construct!”

[The Greater Ohio Valley]

You keep saying that word, but you still haven't proved how it's biased or even that it actually is biased. :^)

It's quite obviously biased. Let's do a quick test here. First, go to the Black Supremacy page and read the opening statements. Then, go to the white supremacist page and check the opening statements.

“Black supremacy or black supremacism is a racial supremacist belief which maintains that black people are superior to people of other races.”

“White supremacy or white supremacism is the racist belief that white people are superior to people of other races and therefore should be dominant over them”

They practically say the exact same thing.

[Bezkoshtovnya]

And have utterly failed to show his that is the case.

Why don't you try to do the test i mentioned earlier?

Where you claimed that a source titled desthtowhitepeople.com isnt a reliable source? Yeah, still not seeing how that applies.

[Skarten]

It's quite obviously biased. Let's do a quick test here. First, go to the Black Supremacy page and read the opening statements. Then, go to the white supremacist page and check the opening statements.

“Black supremacy or black supremacism is a racial supremacist belief which maintains that black people are superior to people of other races.”

“White supremacy or white supremacism is the racist belief that white people are superior to people of other races and therefore should be dominant over them”

They practically say the exact same thing.

Read a little bit further. You're nearly there!

[Kragholm Free States]

Well if it's all so arbitrarily defined and varies based on nothing more than the whims of racialists, how do you know any given group of white supremacists aren't actually supporting sub-saharan Africans?

... Because the white supremacists themselves define who they perceive as white and non-white?

It's a bunch of hocus pocus bullshit arbitrarily defined so they can put others down.

How do you know? Have you ever even spoken to a white supremacist, let alone all of them? Have they all given you their own detailed breakdown of who is and isn't considered white? Surely it must vary wildly based on their whims.

[-MAFDET-]

What great historical crimes have black nations committed?

Countless genocides, selling people as slaves to quite literally everyone, etc, etc. You know, that kind of stuff.

Except for when the countless wars that have plagued the African continent are the result of white colonialism, and the arbitrary assignment of borders with no regard for ethnic or cultural ties.

[Skarten]

Why don't you try to do the test i mentioned earlier?

Where you claimed that a source titled desthtowhitepeople.com isnt a reliable source? Yeah, still not seeing how that applies.

I don't think i could have it been made more clear that i didn't actually mean there was a site called deathtowhitepeople.com, but no, it's not that. The other one. about reading their double standards between their articles for white supremacy and black supremacy.

[Farnhamia]

The issue I have with the Left is that they're undermining and ruining the civilization our forefathers built. It is the Leftists' fault if they're angering the Right too much. The far right is needed as a counter to the Communists and the Leftists that want change for change's sake.

Just going to inform you that if you keep making obviously rhetorical posts meant to stir up conflict between people I'll have to take action.

*looms ominously* Action? Such as what? be aware that threatening to report people is itself actionable. It's called "using Mods as weapons."

[Skarten]

Countless genocides, selling people as slaves to quite literally everyone, etc, etc. You know, that kind of stuff.

Except for when the countless wars that have plagued the African continent are the result of white colonialism, and the arbitrary assignment of borders with no regard for ethnic or cultural ties.

Ah, yes, because EVERYTHING is whitey's fault?

"Oh, sure we committed genocide, but it's the WHITEYS fault!"

Also, have you ever considered history doesn't start with the Scramble For Africa?

[-MAFDET-]

Except for when the countless wars that have plagued the African continent are the result of white colonialism, and the arbitrary assignment of borders with no regard for ethnic or cultural ties.

Ah, yes, because EVERYTHING is whitey's fault?

"Oh, sure we committed genocide, but it's the WHITEYS fault!"

Also, have you ever considered history doesn't start with the Scramble For Africa?

The modern history of Africa did.

[Kragholm Free States]

Countless genocides, selling people as slaves to quite literally everyone, etc, etc. You know, that kind of stuff.

Except for when the countless wars that have plagued the African continent are the result of white colonialism, and the arbitrary assignment of borders with no regard for ethnic or cultural ties.

They were selling off the prisoners they'd taken in inter-tribal conflicts long before Europeans tried to actually colonise their land. And, in fact, the forces of Islam were invading and colonising African land and taking slaves long before Europeans. So no, "white colonialism" isn't really a defence for the terrible deeds Skarten mentioned.

[Bezkoshtovnya]

Where you claimed that a source titled desthtowhitepeople.com isnt a reliable source? Yeah, still not seeing how that applies.

I don't think i could have it been made more clear that i didn't actually mean there was a site called deathtowhitepeople.com, but no, it's not that. The other one. about reading their double standards between their articles for white supremacy and black supremacy.

How does this affect the scholarly citations used in the article that state the alt right is built on concern of white nationalism?

[Torrocca]

... Because the white supremacists themselves define who they perceive as white and non-white?

It's a bunch of hocus pocus bullshit arbitrarily defined so they can put others down.

How do you know? Have you ever even spoken to a white supremacist, let alone all of them? Have they all given you their own detailed breakdown of who is and isn't considered white? Surely it must vary wildly based on their whims.

It's like it's almost impossible to read manifestos, articles, or books written by white supremacists! Clearly, no, obviously the only true way to know how they determine who belongs to what race is to talk to them firsthand.

... That's not how the concept of race works, and is again ignoring the fact that racialists arbitrarily define who is or isn't white or black or whatnot.

Because we’ve done a terrible job classifying race. It’s not like we manage it or anything. Your arguement is basically,

“they’re arbitrarily defining the periodic table.”

“Then it is merely a social construct!”

Except race is still quite literally a social construct; it's literally not even defined in any valid science, unlike the periodic table. Skin color, hair color, etc. are valid and verifiable via science as things relating to genetics, but race quite literally isn't.

[-MAFDET-]

Except for when the countless wars that have plagued the African continent are the result of white colonialism, and the arbitrary assignment of borders with no regard for ethnic or cultural ties.

They were selling off the prisoners they'd taken in inter-tribal conflicts long before Europeans tried to actually colonise their land. And, in fact, the forces of Islam were invading and colonising African land and taking slaves long before Europeans. So no, "white colonialism" isn't really a defence for the terrible deeds Skarten mentioned.

It’s not a defense. I’m providing context.

[Skarten]

Ah, yes, because EVERYTHING is whitey's fault?

"Oh, sure we committed genocide, but it's the WHITEYS fault!"

Also, have you ever considered history doesn't start with the Scramble For Africa?

The modern history of Africa did.

Even if it did, it doesn't excuse it lol. You can't just blame everything on white people. Bad borders is not an excuse for genocide.

[Skarten]

I don't think i could have it been made more clear that i didn't actually mean there was a site called deathtowhitepeople.com, but no, it's not that. The other one. about reading their double standards between their articles for white supremacy and black supremacy.

How does this affect the scholarly citations used in the article that state the alt right is built on concern of white nationalism?

He just linked an wikipedia page, that's it. No more, no less.

[The Greater Ohio Valley]

“Black supremacy or black supremacism is a racial supremacist belief which maintains that black people are superior to people of other races.”

“White supremacy or white supremacism is the racist belief that white people are superior to people of other races and therefore should be dominant over them”

They practically say the exact same thing.

Read a little bit further. You're nearly there!

I did, I can’t help that white supremacy having a more lengthy and infamous history lead to a longer Wikipedia page on it.

[Kragholm Free States]

They were selling off the prisoners they'd taken in inter-tribal conflicts long before Europeans tried to actually colonise their land. And, in fact, the forces of Islam were invading and colonising African land and taking slaves long before Europeans. So no, "white colonialism" isn't really a defence for the terrible deeds Skarten mentioned.

It’s not a defense. I’m providing context.

White colonialism is not context for things that were happening centuries before white colonialism.

[The Black Forrest]

How does this affect the scholarly citations used in the article that state the alt right is built on concern of white nationalism?

He just linked an wikipedia page, that's it. No more, no less.

And we are still waiting for your argument how the information is false.

[Bezkoshtovnya]

How does this affect the scholarly citations used in the article that state the alt right is built on concern of white nationalism?

He just linked an wikipedia page, that's it. No more, no less.

That utterly fails to answer how the page in question is biased as you claim.

[The Derpy Democratic Republic Of Herp]

Actual nazis.

Example: People who believe that communism is a conspiracy concocted by bolshevik jews

Well, as much as that's a crackpot theory right there (One i've never really heard of), i don't think that's really enough to classify people as nazis. A lot of the people who the nazis hate might as well say the same. Being against jews is not just a nazi thing.

If you read Mein Kampf, you would know that is what Hitler thought of communism.

Can't get much more nazi then Mein Kampf.

[Kragholm Free States]

How do you know? Have you ever even spoken to a white supremacist, let alone all of them? Have they all given you their own detailed breakdown of who is and isn't considered white? Surely it must vary wildly based on their whims.

It's like it's almost impossible to read manifestos, articles, or books written by white supremacists! Clearly, no, obviously the only true way to know how they determine who belongs to what race is to talk to them firsthand.

You realise not every white supremacist has written a manifesto, article, or book, right? If their definitions of race are as fickle and arbitrary as you say, you have no way of knowing that there aren't white supremacists who consider sub-saharan Africans to be white and Europeans to be non-white.

[The Black Forrest]

It’s not a defense. I’m providing context.

White colonialism is not context for things that were happening centuries before white colonialism.

Ok. How about scale? How much slavery did the arabs take versus the time of white colonialism?

[Armed republic of clowns]

Countless genocides, selling people as slaves to quite literally everyone, etc, etc. You know, that kind of stuff.

Except for when the countless wars that have plagued the African continent are the result of white colonialism, and the arbitrary assignment of borders with no regard for ethnic or cultural ties.

I sincerely doubt that the continent was peaceful at all before Europeans arrived.