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Postby Inkopolitia » Mon Apr 29, 2019 2:01 pm

Torrocca wrote:
Kragholm Free States wrote:
There is no black race,


Sounds fine by me. Race is just a social construct, after all. :3

black pride is a terrorist ideology. :^)


Nah, because even though race is just a social construct, taking pride as a group marginalized and oppressed for a specific trait or attribute (in this case, race) helps that group to overcome such things.

See how easy that is?

See how stupid it is?


Nah. :3

"Race is a social construct"

What?
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Postby Torrocca » Mon Apr 29, 2019 2:01 pm

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I love how you can't even create an actual argument here, and just keep crying about the biased nature of Wikipedia, without even proving how it's biased.

News flash, hun: being biased doesn't mean something's wrong. :3

Yes! Now all i need is an gif of an black woman talking about tea and i'll have gotten a bingo!

You can't just link to an biased source and think that you've won the argument.


For all this posturing you're doing, you sure as fuck haven't bothered to even try to prove my source or my argument wrong. I'll take that as a clear and obvious concession and call this a victory anyways. :3
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Postby The Black Forrest » Mon Apr 29, 2019 2:01 pm

Kragholm Free States wrote:
Torrocca wrote:
America doesn't exist either. :3


Columbus really did reach India after all? :3


No. He did find squatters living on our land!
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Postby Skarten » Mon Apr 29, 2019 2:01 pm

-MAFDET- wrote::eyebrow:
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That sounds retarded.

So then everyone except whites are allowed to be proud about their race?

It's either everyone or no one.


Black Pride and Nationalism are constructs that arose out of the marginalization of African-Americans. They are a means of regaining power from a nation that has stolen everything from them.

With this in mind, White Pride/Nationalism is redundant. White people are not marginalized on account of their skin color. White people have administrated America since it was born.

These hateful ideologies arose as a reaction to POC gaining louder voices about the injustices that they face. It's the result of white privilege's steady demise.


Dear god, it's just a joke at this point. I mean, really? What do you think this is, the 1950's? Have you ever heard of a thing called Africa? Or Asia? Or the fact that the governments are literally announcing that they want to replace Europe's population with immigrants?

Please go outside. America is not the only nation in the world, sweaty

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Postby Gormwood » Mon Apr 29, 2019 2:02 pm

Torrocca wrote:
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Wikipedia is biased. That's a fact. Linking an wikipedia article and thinking that you've won the argument is plain stupid.


I love how you can't even create an actual argument here, and just keep crying about the biased nature of Wikipedia, without even proving how it's biased.

News flash, hun: being biased doesn't mean something's wrong. :3

Somehow Wikipedia never gives citations for their articles. :-B
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Postby Holy Tedalonia » Mon Apr 29, 2019 2:02 pm

Torrocca wrote:
Kragholm Free States wrote:
There is no black race,


Sounds fine by me. Race is just a social construct, after all. :3

black pride is a terrorist ideology. :^)


Nah, because even though race is just a social construct, taking pride as a group marginalized and oppressed for a specific trait or attribute (in this case, race) helps that group to overcome such things.

See how easy that is?

See how stupid it is?


Nah. :3

Race is genetic, but also irrelevant it’s stupid to say it’s just a social constructs, as to say having a certain race or gene, makes you genetically superior or more intelligent.
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Postby Skarten » Mon Apr 29, 2019 2:02 pm

Torrocca wrote:
Skarten wrote:Yes! Now all i need is an gif of an black woman talking about tea and i'll have gotten a bingo!

You can't just link to an biased source and think that you've won the argument.


For all this posturing you're doing, you sure as fuck haven't bothered to even try to prove my source or my argument wrong. I'll take that as a clear and obvious concession and call this a victory anyways. :3


Have you ever heard of a thing called "Burden Of Proof"?

Also, everyone who says "I've won this argument" has immediately admitted to losing the argument. If you won the argument, you don't need to say it.
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Postby Torrocca » Mon Apr 29, 2019 2:03 pm

Inkopolitia wrote:
Torrocca wrote:
Sounds fine by me. Race is just a social construct, after all. :3



Nah, because even though race is just a social construct, taking pride as a group marginalized and oppressed for a specific trait or attribute (in this case, race) helps that group to overcome such things.



Nah. :3

"Race is a social construct"

What?


Yes. If you want to understand the arbitrariness of things like a "white race" or a "black race" then look no further than to how racialists classified the Irish and Southern and Eastern Europeans for a long, long fucking time since the conceptualization of race.

It's literally a social construct with no real scientific validity.
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Postby Torrocca » Mon Apr 29, 2019 2:04 pm

Skarten wrote:
Torrocca wrote:
For all this posturing you're doing, you sure as fuck haven't bothered to even try to prove my source or my argument wrong. I'll take that as a clear and obvious concession and call this a victory anyways. :3


Have you ever heard of a thing called "Burden Of Proof"?


And I provided my proof. Either debate it or admit you've been defeated by my 5D chess grand strategies. :3
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Postby Torrocca » Mon Apr 29, 2019 2:05 pm

Holy Tedalonia wrote:
Torrocca wrote:
Sounds fine by me. Race is just a social construct, after all. :3



Nah, because even though race is just a social construct, taking pride as a group marginalized and oppressed for a specific trait or attribute (in this case, race) helps that group to overcome such things.



Nah. :3

Race is genetic, but also irrelevant it’s stupid to say it’s just a social constructs, as to say having a certain race or gene, makes you genetically superior or more intelligent.


Skin color is genetic, race is not.
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Postby The Black Forrest » Mon Apr 29, 2019 2:05 pm

Holy Tedalonia wrote:
Torrocca wrote:
Sounds fine by me. Race is just a social construct, after all. :3



Nah, because even though race is just a social construct, taking pride as a group marginalized and oppressed for a specific trait or attribute (in this case, race) helps that group to overcome such things.



Nah. :3

Race is genetic, but also irrelevant it’s stupid to say it’s just a social constructs, as to say having a certain race or gene, makes you genetically superior or more intelligent.


It's a social construct based on "selective" understanding of genetics. At best you can argue sub-species.
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Postby Bezkoshtovnya » Mon Apr 29, 2019 2:06 pm

Skarten wrote:
Torrocca wrote:
For all this posturing you're doing, you sure as fuck haven't bothered to even try to prove my source or my argument wrong. I'll take that as a clear and obvious concession and call this a victory anyways. :3


Have you ever heard of a thing called "Burden Of Proof"?

Also, everyone who says "I've won this argument" has immediately admitted to losing the argument. If you won the argument, you don't need to say it.

They did provide proof. You are claiming it is biased but have actually failed to provide proof of this claim or anything that refutes the first claim.
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Postby Kragholm Free States » Mon Apr 29, 2019 2:06 pm

Torrocca wrote:
Inkopolitia wrote:"Race is a social construct"

What?


Yes. If you want to understand the arbitrariness of things like a "white race" or a "black race" then look no further than to how racialists classified the Irish and Southern and Eastern Europeans for a long, long fucking time since the conceptualization of race.

It's literally a social construct with no real scientific validity.


Then how the fuck can it be good to believe that dark skin is great and evil to believe that light skin is great? If race doesn't exist racial pride is dumb but ultimately irrelevant whoever is expressing it, surely.
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Postby Skarten » Mon Apr 29, 2019 2:06 pm

Torrocca wrote:
Skarten wrote:
Have you ever heard of a thing called "Burden Of Proof"?


And I provided my proof. Either debate it or admit you've been defeated by my 5D chess grand strategies. :3


No you haven't. You just linked to an wikipedia article that agrees with what you said. That's not an argument. Using :3 at the end of your phrases like you're a goddamn 11 year old girl isn't an argument either.

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Postby Inkopolitia » Mon Apr 29, 2019 2:06 pm

Torrocca wrote:
Inkopolitia wrote:"Race is a social construct"

What?


Yes. If you want to understand the arbitrariness of things like a "white race" or a "black race" then look no further than to how racialists classified the Irish and Southern and Eastern Europeans for a long, long fucking time since the conceptualization of race.

It's literally a social construct with no real scientific validity.

Race is not a social construct. Again, it's genetics that define our skin color (which define our race) I agree that everyone from every race is smart, but saying it's just a social construct is wrong.
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Postby -MAFDET- » Mon Apr 29, 2019 2:06 pm

Skarten wrote:
-MAFDET- wrote::eyebrow:

Black Pride and Nationalism are constructs that arose out of the marginalization of African-Americans. They are a means of regaining power from a nation that has stolen everything from them.

With this in mind, White Pride/Nationalism is redundant. White people are not marginalized on account of their skin color. White people have administrated America since it was born.

These hateful ideologies arose as a reaction to POC gaining louder voices about the injustices that they face. It's the result of white privilege's steady demise.


Dear god, it's just a joke at this point. I mean, really? What do you think this is, the 1950's? Have you ever heard of a thing called Africa? Or Asia? Or the fact that the governments are literally announcing that they want to replace Europe's population with immigrants?

Please go outside. America is not the only nation in the world, sweaty


White men who are fearful of an ethnic removal that exists only in fantasy is another symptom of white privilege's decline. It isn't just in America that white people are the dominant group in a multiracial society.

You're rehashing tired old reactionary rhetoric.
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Postby LiberNovusAmericae » Mon Apr 29, 2019 2:06 pm

Torrocca wrote:
Kragholm Free States wrote:
There is no black race,


Sounds fine by me. Race is just a social construct, after all. :3

black pride is a terrorist ideology. :^)


Nah, because even though race is just a social construct, taking pride as a group marginalized and oppressed for a specific trait or attribute (in this case, race) helps that group to overcome such things.

See how easy that is?

See how stupid it is?


Nah. :3

Race is a biological fact. Phenotypes differ slightly amongst various races.
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Postby Skarten » Mon Apr 29, 2019 2:07 pm

Kragholm Free States wrote:
Torrocca wrote:
Yes. If you want to understand the arbitrariness of things like a "white race" or a "black race" then look no further than to how racialists classified the Irish and Southern and Eastern Europeans for a long, long fucking time since the conceptualization of race.

It's literally a social construct with no real scientific validity.


Then how the fuck can it be good to believe that dark skin is great and evil to believe that light skin is great? If race doesn't exist racial pride is dumb but ultimately irrelevant whoever is expressing it, surely.


Sweaty, you forgot that black people cant' be possibly bad in any way shape or form because something something colonialism.
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Postby Torrocca » Mon Apr 29, 2019 2:07 pm

Bezkoshtovnya wrote:
Skarten wrote:
Have you ever heard of a thing called "Burden Of Proof"?

Also, everyone who says "I've won this argument" has immediately admitted to losing the argument. If you won the argument, you don't need to say it.

They did provide proof. You are claiming it is biased but have actually failed to provide proof of this claim or anything that refutes the first claim.


But screaming about how something is biased is a valid debate strategy!!1!

Skarten wrote:
Torrocca wrote:
And I provided my proof. Either debate it or admit you've been defeated by my 5D chess grand strategies. :3


No you haven't. You just linked to an wikipedia article that agrees with what you said.


That's how providing fucking proof works, holy shit lmao. Would you prefer I link to Breitbart with an article that disagrees with what I said?

That's not an argument.


Stefan Molyneux, is that you?

Using :3 at the end of your phrases like you're a goddamn 11 year old girl isn't an argument either.


I'm a 19-year-old girl, hunny. :3
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Postby The Black Forrest » Mon Apr 29, 2019 2:07 pm

Skarten wrote:
Torrocca wrote:
And I provided my proof. Either debate it or admit you've been defeated by my 5D chess grand strategies. :3


No you haven't. You just linked to an wikipedia article that agrees with what you said. That's not an argument. Using :3 at the end of your phrases like you're a goddamn 11 year old girl isn't an argument either.


A source with references versus opinions?
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Postby Bezkoshtovnya » Mon Apr 29, 2019 2:07 pm

Skarten wrote:
Torrocca wrote:
And I provided my proof. Either debate it or admit you've been defeated by my 5D chess grand strategies. :3


No you haven't. You just linked to an wikipedia article that agrees with what you said. That's not an argument. Using :3 at the end of your phrases like you're a goddamn 11 year old girl isn't an argument either.

So....you are denouncing the source provided because it supports their claim....? What?
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Postby Skarten » Mon Apr 29, 2019 2:08 pm

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Skarten wrote:
Dear god, it's just a joke at this point. I mean, really? What do you think this is, the 1950's? Have you ever heard of a thing called Africa? Or Asia? Or the fact that the governments are literally announcing that they want to replace Europe's population with immigrants?

Please go outside. America is not the only nation in the world, sweaty


White men who are fearful of an ethnic removal that exists only in fantasy is another symptom of white privilege's decline. It isn't just in America that white people are the dominant group in a multiracial society.

You're rehashing tired old reactionary rhetoric.


I'm pretty sure it was on the UN's page. Or was it the EU?'s

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Postby Holy Tedalonia » Mon Apr 29, 2019 2:09 pm

Torrocca wrote:
Holy Tedalonia wrote:Race is genetic, but also irrelevant it’s stupid to say it’s just a social constructs, as to say having a certain race or gene, makes you genetically superior or more intelligent.


Skin color is genetic, race is not.

Tell that to the Hutu and the Tutsi’s that the noses that defined their race, is nothing more then a concept.

Race is ultimately the classification of groups with similar sets of genes. Defining both shape of their body and color. Yes we conceptualized it before really understanding, but the same could be said about iron. We didn’t know what the periodic table was yet, we defined what iron was. But regardless, I guess iron is a figment if the imagination
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Postby Skarten » Mon Apr 29, 2019 2:09 pm

Bezkoshtovnya wrote:
Skarten wrote:
No you haven't. You just linked to an wikipedia article that agrees with what you said. That's not an argument. Using :3 at the end of your phrases like you're a goddamn 11 year old girl isn't an argument either.

So....you are denouncing the source provided because it supports their claim....? What?


I'm saying that it's an bad source because it's completely biased.

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Postby -MAFDET- » Mon Apr 29, 2019 2:09 pm

Skarten wrote:
-MAFDET- wrote:
White men who are fearful of an ethnic removal that exists only in fantasy is another symptom of white privilege's decline. It isn't just in America that white people are the dominant group in a multiracial society.

You're rehashing tired old reactionary rhetoric.


I'm pretty sure it was on the UN's page. Or was it the EU?'s


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