He’s taking the idea that the right is a set of varying beliefs, while the alternative right is a set of varying beliefs that differentiates itself from the right.
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by Holy Tedalonia » Mon Apr 29, 2019 1:28 pm
by Torrocca » Mon Apr 29, 2019 1:31 pm
by Internationalist Bastard » Mon Apr 29, 2019 1:32 pm
by Torrocca » Mon Apr 29, 2019 1:32 pm
by Holy Tedalonia » Mon Apr 29, 2019 1:33 pm
Torrocca wrote:Holy Tedalonia wrote:He’s taking the idea that the right is a set of varying beliefs, while the alternative right is a set of varying beliefs that differentiates itself from the right.
... Which still doesn't work since it's just a name that white supremacists are using as a rebranding of the term "white supremacy". By that metric I could say the Democratic People's Republic of Korea is the most democratic place in the world; doesn't mean I'm right.
by Internationalist Bastard » Mon Apr 29, 2019 1:35 pm
Torrocca wrote:Skarten wrote:
Alt-Right just means alternative right. It's not an unified group. And if it isn't an unified, organized group, then it's by definition not an terrorist organization.
And the Democratic People's Republic of Korea is the most democratic place in the world, amirite? After all, that's what the name says!
by Skarten » Mon Apr 29, 2019 1:35 pm
Torrocca wrote:Holy Tedalonia wrote:He’s taking the idea that the right is a set of varying beliefs, while the alternative right is a set of varying beliefs that differentiates itself from the right.
... Which still doesn't work since it's just a name that white supremacists are using as a rebranding of the term "white supremacy". By that metric I could say the Democratic People's Republic of Korea is the most democratic place in the world; doesn't mean I'm right.
Torrocca wrote:Skarten wrote:
Alt-Right just means alternative right. It's not an unified group. And if it isn't an unified, organized group, then it's by definition not an terrorist organization.
And the Democratic People's Republic of Korea is the most democratic place in the world, amirite? After all, that's what the name says!
by Torrocca » Mon Apr 29, 2019 1:36 pm
Holy Tedalonia wrote:Torrocca wrote:
... Which still doesn't work since it's just a name that white supremacists are using as a rebranding of the term "white supremacy". By that metric I could say the Democratic People's Republic of Korea is the most democratic place in the world; doesn't mean I'm right.
As I said earlier the group of Alt-Right varies drastically mainly thanks to the left using it as a condemnation nick name like in the Nazi Pug incident. Its only really diverse thanks to it being the go to label for those who the left finds distaste for.
by Skarten » Mon Apr 29, 2019 1:36 pm
Torrocca wrote:Holy Tedalonia wrote:As I said earlier the group of Alt-Right varies drastically mainly thanks to the left using it as a condemnation nick name like in the Nazi Pug incident. Its only really diverse thanks to it being the go to label for those who the left finds distaste for.
... That's not how earnest membership into a group works. I could say all day you're a member of AntiFA but that doesn't suddenly make it true.
by Torrocca » Mon Apr 29, 2019 1:37 pm
Skarten wrote:Torrocca wrote:
... Which still doesn't work since it's just a name that white supremacists are using as a rebranding of the term "white supremacy". By that metric I could say the Democratic People's Republic of Korea is the most democratic place in the world; doesn't mean I'm right.Torrocca wrote:
And the Democratic People's Republic of Korea is the most democratic place in the world, amirite? After all, that's what the name says!
Do you have any actual proof that the "alt-right" are all white supremacists?
Every single one of them?
I'll repeat it again: THE ALT RIGHT IS NOT AN UNIFIED, ORGANIZED GROUP
by Skarten » Mon Apr 29, 2019 1:37 pm
Torrocca wrote:Skarten wrote:
Do you have any actual proof that the "alt-right" are all white supremacists?
Every single one of them?
I'll repeat it again: THE ALT RIGHT IS NOT AN UNIFIED, ORGANIZED GROUP
The Alt-Right movement fucking exists specifically because of white supremacism and is specifically built on it, jfc.
by Evil Dictators Happyland » Mon Apr 29, 2019 1:37 pm
Skarten wrote:Torrocca wrote:
... Which still doesn't work since it's just a name that white supremacists are using as a rebranding of the term "white supremacy". By that metric I could say the Democratic People's Republic of Korea is the most democratic place in the world; doesn't mean I'm right.Torrocca wrote:
And the Democratic People's Republic of Korea is the most democratic place in the world, amirite? After all, that's what the name says!
Do you have any actual proof that the "alt-right" are all white supremacists?
Every single one of them?
I'll repeat it again: THE ALT RIGHT IS NOT AN UNIFIED, ORGANIZED GROUP
by Torrocca » Mon Apr 29, 2019 1:38 pm
The left?
Because once again, it's not an organized group. Antifa is.
by The Black Party » Mon Apr 29, 2019 1:38 pm
Torrocca wrote:Skarten wrote:
Do you have any actual proof that the "alt-right" are all white supremacists?
Every single one of them?
I'll repeat it again: THE ALT RIGHT IS NOT AN UNIFIED, ORGANIZED GROUP
The Alt-Right movement fucking exists specifically because of white [nationalism]* and is specifically built on it, jfc.
by Holy Tedalonia » Mon Apr 29, 2019 1:38 pm
Torrocca wrote:Holy Tedalonia wrote:As I said earlier the group of Alt-Right varies drastically mainly thanks to the left using it as a condemnation nick name like in the Nazi Pug incident. Its only really diverse thanks to it being the go to label for those who the left finds distaste for.
... That's not how earnest membership into a group works. I could say all day you're a member of AntiFA but that doesn't suddenly make it true.
by Torrocca » Mon Apr 29, 2019 1:39 pm
by The Black Forrest » Mon Apr 29, 2019 1:39 pm
Skarten wrote:The Black Forrest wrote:
Jews will not replace us chanted by group carry "touches" at night kind of makes it so.
As to the Muslim argument? It's more ignorant then Islamophobia (would have to hear more comments).
They're both stupid arguments. That's the point. But if it's just the phrase, it's nothing more than that. I'm saying that claiming that "I don't want X group to do Y bad thing to us/me" Is just that. An phrase. Do you also think saying 'It's okay to be white" is racist?
by Torrocca » Mon Apr 29, 2019 1:40 pm
This entire thing is moot. We both can’t really say for certain the alt-right are either all white supremacists, or all aren’t. Or that they are organized or not.
by The Black Party » Mon Apr 29, 2019 1:40 pm
Torrocca wrote:Skarten wrote:
[Citation Needed]
Literally doesn't even take a second to search this shit up on Google, chief. The fucking movement started as white supremacy and was built as white supremacy.
by Skarten » Mon Apr 29, 2019 1:40 pm
by Skarten » Mon Apr 29, 2019 1:41 pm
Torrocca wrote:Holy Tedalonia wrote:I do believe it was not the right who created the term, “alt-right”. But that’s a moot point.
The term originated from Richard Spencer, so you're wrong there.This entire thing is moot. We both can’t really say for certain the alt-right are either all white supremacists, or all aren’t. Or that they are organized or not.
We certainly can say the alt-right is all white supremacists, since that's what the movement's built on.
by Torrocca » Mon Apr 29, 2019 1:42 pm
Skarten wrote:Torrocca wrote:
The alt-right.
Did you just, like, not even bother to read the post you quoted?
Proof that AntiFA's an organized group? :^)
AntiFa is quite obviously an organized group. It's an conglomerate of groups, yes, but they all act very similarly. Which is not the case of the alt-right. AntiFA uses the same flag, the same name, and nearly everything in a very similar way to the other groups of their kind.
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