China's list of 48 extremist tendencies

[Socialist Workers Combine]

Oh, do PLEASE tell me what is beautiful about being essentially forced to smoke or drink, and not mourn the loss of loved ones or own too many knives otherwise you fall under suspicion. All of these things and its the fucking tents you find to be a bit too odd.

No one is forbidding you to mourn, you just can’t do it the old fashioned way.

The Chinese have been fighting funeral expenses for thousands of years. Many imperial Chinese officials would try to put a stop to it as well.

Also, may I suggest scotch?

[Aaaaaa]

This is hilarious, though I imagine most of these are essentially China's version of the bizarre American/Euro laws that are never enforced, IE not being able to flush the toilet after a certain time or something equally as extraordinary.

[Cybus1]

Oh, do PLEASE tell me what is beautiful about being essentially forced to smoke or drink, and not mourn the loss of loved ones or own too many knives otherwise you fall under suspicion. All of these things and its the fucking tents you find to be a bit too odd.

No one is forbidding you to mourn, you just can’t do it the old fashioned way.

The Chinese have been fighting funeral expenses for thousands of years.

Also, may I suggest scotch?

"The old fashioned way' is how most cultures and people to death, through a funeral and sadness (often expressed via tears). It's pretty much a universal thing to be sad when a loved one dies. In what way does that threaten Communist control? The only thing I can think of is maybe martyrdom, but that seems unlikely unless they die standing up for their beliefs.

[El-Amin Caliphate]

A lot of this is quite beautiful though I’m not sure what the bit about camping equipment is, maybe they’re worried about people going into the wildnerness to form rebel camps.

Oh, do PLEASE tell me what is beautiful about being essentially forced to smoke or drink, and not mourn the loss of loved ones or own too many knives otherwise you fall under suspicion. All of these things and its the fucking tents you find to be a bit too odd.

On top of this, please tell me how not being able to practice one's religion is a good thing.

[Bezkoshtovnya]

Oh, do PLEASE tell me what is beautiful about being essentially forced to smoke or drink, and not mourn the loss of loved ones or own too many knives otherwise you fall under suspicion. All of these things and its the fucking tents you find to be a bit too odd.

No one is forbidding you to mourn, you just can’t do it the old fashioned way.

The Chinese have been fighting funeral expenses for thousands of years.

Also, may I suggest scotch?

Yes how dare people mourn "the old fashioned way", you know, how every normal human being does with lots of emotion, crying, and heartache and 'acting sad'. Just fucking stop that shit, that isn't too much to ask.

Also please enlighten me on how having enough food is bad, or how not letting people download shit on your phone is bad. Or having a fucking beard for Christ sake.

[The Blaatschapen]

Meh, don't mind me, it's a matter not worth pursuing anyway, Blaat.

No idea what it said here, but okay.

[Socialist Workers Combine]

Chinese funerals in imperial times could cost a fortune. Literally almost an entire savings. So yes officials would try to do things like limit coffins to one coffin.

[Rostavykhan]

For those who can't be arsed, here's the bizarro list (and it is bizarre, probably even from the standpoint of an average subject of Emperor Poohbah and His Middle Kingdom):

Owning a tent
Telling others not to swear
Speaking with someone who has travelled abroad
Owning welding equipment
Telling others not to sin
Owning extra food
Eating breakfast before the sun comes up
Merely knowing someone who has travelled abroad
Owning a compass
Arguing with an official
Publicly stating that China is inferior to some other country
Owning multiple knives
Sending a petition that complains about local officials
Having too many children
Abstaining from alcohol
Not allowing officials to sleep in your bed, eat your food, and live in your house
Having a VPN
Abstaining from cigarettes
Not having your government ID on your person
Having WhatsApp
Wailing, publicly grieving, or otherwise acting sad when your parents die
Not letting officials take your DNA
Watching a video filmed abroad
Wearing a scarf in the presence of the Chinese flag
Wearing a hijab (if you are under 45)
Going to a mosque
Praying
Fasting
Listening to a religious lecture
Not letting officials scan your irises
Not letting officials download everything you have on your phone
Not making voice recordings to give to officials
Speaking your native language in school
Speaking your native language in government work groups
Speaking with someone abroad (via Skype, WeChat, etc.)
Wearing a shirt with Arabic lettered writing on it
Having a full beard
Wearing any clothes with religious iconography
Not attending mandatory propaganda classes
Not attending mandatory flag-raising ceremonies
Not attending public struggle sessions (the public humiliation of political rivals)
Refusing to denounce your family members or yourself in these public struggle sessions
Trying to kill yourself when detained by the police
Trying to kill yourself when in the education camps
Performing a traditional funeral
Inviting multiple families to your house without registering with the police department
Being related to anyone who has done any of the above

It would be nice if the OP copypastes the above list while adding way more meat to his post.

Why does this read like the list of recent issues legislations on my nation page.

[El-Amin Caliphate]

For those who can't be arsed, here's the bizarro list (and it is bizarre, probably even from the standpoint of an average subject of Emperor Poohbah and His Middle Kingdom):



It would be nice if the OP copypastes the above list while adding way more meat to his post.

Why does this read like the list of recent issues legislations on my nation page.

Speaking of which, I need to do mine.

[Duhon]

This is hilarious, though I imagine most of these are essentially China's version of the bizarre American/Euro laws that are never enforced, IE not being able to flush the toilet after a certain time or something equally as extraordinary.

Actually, Xinjiang is China's vision of a totalitarian hellhole -- a society so regimented you cannot but think and do Xi Poohbah, created not so much to suppress rebelliousness (though there is thaf) but to inculcate a deliberately unquestioning character.

[Duhon]

... what.

I said I don’t know what the camping thing is about.

But everyone should have a swig of beer every now and then.

... your whole post history js a hell of a dance around the point, namely that you want communism so bad you'd trample on people's freedoms just to get your way.

[Socialist Workers Combine]

... your whole post history js a hell of a dance around the point, namely that you want communism so bad you'd trample on people's freedoms just to get your way.

I’m not even sure China is Communist. But what do I care about the future of Islam in Xinjiang? Islam hasn’t been a positive force since the Islamic golden age.

[El-Amin Caliphate]

... your whole post history js a hell of a dance around the point, namely that you want communism so bad you'd trample on people's freedoms just to get your way.

I’m not even sure China is Communist.

It's not.

But what do I care about the future of Islam in Xinjiang? Islam hasn’t been a positive force since the Islamic golden age.

It has been a positive force ever since Allah SWT created the universe but I digress. Do you agree with China oppressing Muslims?

[Cybus1]

... your whole post history js a hell of a dance around the point, namely that you want communism so bad you'd trample on people's freedoms just to get your way.

I’m not even sure China is Communist. But what do I care about the future of Islam in Xinjiang? Islam hasn’t been a positive force since the Islamic golden age.

Sociologically speaking, religion, in no matter what form (bar extremism, obviously), acts as a way for people to come together and/or deal with issues, such as mortality, giving them hope. Islam is indeed rather...regressive, compared to modern western democratic societies, but it still provides, at the very least, those benefits.

[Petrolheadia]

For those who can't be arsed, here's the bizarro list (and it is bizarre, probably even from the standpoint of an average subject of Emperor Poohbah and His Middle Kingdom):

Owning a tent
Telling others not to swear
Speaking with someone who has travelled abroad
Owning welding equipment
Telling others not to sin
Owning extra food
Eating breakfast before the sun comes up
Merely knowing someone who has travelled abroad
Owning a compass
Arguing with an official
Publicly stating that China is inferior to some other country
Owning multiple knives
Sending a petition that complains about local officials
Having too many children
Abstaining from alcohol
Not allowing officials to sleep in your bed, eat your food, and live in your house
Having a VPN
Abstaining from cigarettes
Not having your government ID on your person
Having WhatsApp
Wailing, publicly grieving, or otherwise acting sad when your parents die
Not letting officials take your DNA
Watching a video filmed abroad
Wearing a scarf in the presence of the Chinese flag
Wearing a hijab (if you are under 45)
Going to a mosque
Praying
Fasting
Listening to a religious lecture
Not letting officials scan your irises
Not letting officials download everything you have on your phone
Not making voice recordings to give to officials
Speaking your native language in school
Speaking your native language in government work groups
Speaking with someone abroad (via Skype, WeChat, etc.)
Wearing a shirt with Arabic lettered writing on it
Having a full beard
Wearing any clothes with religious iconography
Not attending mandatory propaganda classes
Not attending mandatory flag-raising ceremonies
Not attending public struggle sessions (the public humiliation of political rivals)
Refusing to denounce your family members or yourself in these public struggle sessions
Trying to kill yourself when detained by the police
Trying to kill yourself when in the education camps
Performing a traditional funeral
Inviting multiple families to your house without registering with the police department
Being related to anyone who has done any of the above

It would be nice if the OP copypastes the above list while adding way more meat to his post.

I think that they just made some bullshit up.

China is a capitalist country,,with non-reglamented food, many people travel abroad, the culture places a lot of importance on traditional funerals, and a lot of those sound insane (e.g. the compass thing).

[The Blaatschapen]

I’m not even sure China is Communist.

It's not.

But what do I care about the future of Islam in Xinjiang? Islam hasn’t been a positive force since the Islamic golden age.

It has ever since Allah SWT created the universe but I digress. Do you agree with China oppressing Muslims?

I agree with China oppressing a variety of groups, including, but not limited to Muslims.

[Western Vale Confederacy]

Also number 14 is not Burger King foot lettuce, how disappointing China!

[El-Amin Caliphate]

It's not.

It has ever since Allah SWT created the universe but I digress. Do you agree with China oppressing Muslims?

I agree with China oppressing a variety of groups, including, but not limited to Muslims.

You're joking right?

[Cybus1]

It's not.

It has ever since Allah SWT created the universe but I digress. Do you agree with China oppressing Muslims?

I agree with China oppressing a variety of groups, including, but not limited to Muslims.

I'm curious...why? Why is the oppression of a group a good thing?

[Duhon]

... your whole post history js a hell of a dance around the point, namely that you want communism so bad you'd trample on people's freedoms just to get your way.

I’m not even sure China is Communist. But what do I care about the future of Islam in Xinjiang? Islam hasn’t been a positive force since the Islamic golden age.

Perhaps less communist, more authoritarian, though you clearly prefer people and thoughts oppressed your way.

But enough of that -- as an atheist I don't really care about the survival of any religion in Xinjiang or anywhere else in China or the world either, other than as a collection of stories I can mine for literary inspiration, but what of it?

I may not care about the religions now under prosecution, but the people... they are another matter. They choose what to believe, and if keep the peace they should be left alone. Frankly, the Chinese probably wouldn't be imposing the strictures they have imposed on their westernmost territories had they considered that a people left alone to do their thing likely will not rebel.

[Petrolheadia]

This is hilarious, though I imagine most of these are essentially China's version of the bizarre American/Euro laws that are never enforced, IE not being able to flush the toilet after a certain time or something equally as extraordinary.

Actually, Xinjiang is China's vision of a totalitarian hellhole -- a society so regimented you cannot but think and do Xi Poohbah, created not so much to suppress rebelliousness (though there is thaf) but to inculcate a deliberately unquestioning character.

That's the most economically growing hellhole I've ever seen.

[The Blaatschapen]

I agree with China oppressing a variety of groups, including, but not limited to Muslims.

You're joking right?

Sorry, I forgot two words "I agree that China is oppressing ... ". I do not agree with the suppression itself.

[El-Amin Caliphate]

You're joking right?

Sorry, I forgot two words "I agree that China is oppressing ... ". I do not agree with the suppression itself.

Oh ok lol. You had me there for a bit

[Astoriya]

I'm itching to call bullshit on this... unless China has now rocketed up to North Korea levels.

well, they did make Xi Jinping a president for life, so...

[Duhon]

Actually, Xinjiang is China's vision of a totalitarian hellhole -- a society so regimented you cannot but think and do Xi Poohbah, created not so much to suppress rebelliousness (though there is thaf) but to inculcate a deliberately unquestioning character.

That's the most economically growing hellhole I've ever seen.

I could care less if it's heaven on earth -- if that heaven be achieved by putting millions under lock and key, if that heaven be achieved by ensuring that people cannot but think happy thoughts, then fuck it.