China's list of 48 extremist tendencies

[Outer Sparta]

Let's take a test to see if I have extremist tendencies according to China!

Owning a tent (no)
Telling others not to swear (no)
Speaking with someone who has travelled abroad (yes)
Owning welding equipment (no)
Telling others not to sin (no)
Owning extra food (no)
Eating breakfast before the sun comes up (did this when waking up to get ready for school at 6:30 A.M., so yes)
Merely knowing someone who has travelled abroad (yes)
Owning a compass (no)
Arguing with an official (no)
Publicly stating that China is inferior to some other country (no)
Owning multiple knives (no)
Sending a petition that complains about local officials (no)
Having too many children (no)
Abstaining from alcohol (yes)
Not allowing officials to sleep in your bed, eat your food, and live in your house (yes)
Having a VPN (no)
Abstaining from cigarettes (yes)
Not having your government ID on your person (no)
Having WhatsApp (no)
Wailing, publicly grieving, or otherwise acting sad when your parents die (uhh, my parents haven't died)
Not letting officials take your DNA (yes)
Watching a video filmed abroad (yes)
Wearing a scarf in the presence of the Chinese flag (no)
Wearing a hijab (if you are under 45) (no)
Going to a mosque (no)
Praying (no)
Fasting (no)
Listening to a religious lecture (no)
Not letting officials scan your irises (the fuck)
Not letting officials download everything you have on your phone (it's my phone for god sake)
Not making voice recordings to give to officials (why would I need video recordings)
Speaking your native language in school (yes)
Speaking your native language in government work groups (no)
Speaking with someone abroad (via Skype, WeChat, etc.) (yes)
Wearing a shirt with Arabic lettered writing on it (no)
Having a full beard (no)
Wearing any clothes with religious iconography (no)
Not attending mandatory propaganda classes (never done it)
Not attending mandatory flag-raising ceremonies (never done it)
Not attending public struggle sessions (the public humiliation of political rivals) (never done it)
Refusing to denounce your family members or yourself in these public struggle sessions (not applicable)
Trying to kill yourself when detained by the police (definitely not applicable
Trying to kill yourself when in the education camps (definitely not applicable)
Performing a traditional funeral (no)
Inviting multiple families to your house without registering with the police department (yes)
Being related to anyone who has done any of the above (yes)

So NSG, how did I do?

[Communist Zombie Horde]

Let's take a test to see if I have extremist tendencies according to China!

Owning a tent (no)
Telling others not to swear (no)
Speaking with someone who has travelled abroad (yes)
Owning welding equipment (no)
Telling others not to sin (no)
Owning extra food (no)
Eating breakfast before the sun comes up (did this when waking up to get ready for school at 6:30 A.M., so yes)
Merely knowing someone who has travelled abroad (yes)
Owning a compass (no)
Arguing with an official (no)
Publicly stating that China is inferior to some other country (no)
Owning multiple knives (no)
Sending a petition that complains about local officials (no)
Having too many children (no)
Abstaining from alcohol (yes)
Not allowing officials to sleep in your bed, eat your food, and live in your house (yes)
Having a VPN (no)
Abstaining from cigarettes (yes)
Not having your government ID on your person (no)
Having WhatsApp (no)
Wailing, publicly grieving, or otherwise acting sad when your parents die (uhh, my parents haven't died)
Not letting officials take your DNA (yes)
Watching a video filmed abroad (yes)
Wearing a scarf in the presence of the Chinese flag (no)
Wearing a hijab (if you are under 45) (no)
Going to a mosque (no)
Praying (no)
Fasting (no)
Listening to a religious lecture (no)
Not letting officials scan your irises (the fuck)
Not letting officials download everything you have on your phone (it's my phone for god sake)
Not making voice recordings to give to officials (why would I need video recordings)
Speaking your native language in school (yes)
Speaking your native language in government work groups (no)
Speaking with someone abroad (via Skype, WeChat, etc.) (yes)
Wearing a shirt with Arabic lettered writing on it (no)
Having a full beard (no)
Wearing any clothes with religious iconography (no)
Not attending mandatory propaganda classes (not applicable)
Not attending mandatory flag-raising ceremonies (not applicable)
Not attending public struggle sessions (the public humiliation of political rivals) (not applicable and never attended)
Refusing to denounce your family members or yourself in these public struggle sessions (not applicable)
Trying to kill yourself when detained by the police (skip)
Trying to kill yourself when in the education camps (skip)
Performing a traditional funeral (no)
Inviting multiple families to your house without registering with the police department (yes)
Being related to anyone who has done any of the above (yes)

So NSG, how did I do?

Pretty good- I’d just stop meeting with foreigners.

[Outer Sparta]

Let's take a test to see if I have extremist tendencies according to China!

Owning a tent (no)
Telling others not to swear (no)
Speaking with someone who has travelled abroad (yes)
Owning welding equipment (no)
Telling others not to sin (no)
Owning extra food (no)
Eating breakfast before the sun comes up (did this when waking up to get ready for school at 6:30 A.M., so yes)
Merely knowing someone who has travelled abroad (yes)
Owning a compass (no)
Arguing with an official (no)
Publicly stating that China is inferior to some other country (no)
Owning multiple knives (no)
Sending a petition that complains about local officials (no)
Having too many children (no)
Abstaining from alcohol (yes)
Not allowing officials to sleep in your bed, eat your food, and live in your house (yes)
Having a VPN (no)
Abstaining from cigarettes (yes)
Not having your government ID on your person (no)
Having WhatsApp (no)
Wailing, publicly grieving, or otherwise acting sad when your parents die (uhh, my parents haven't died)
Not letting officials take your DNA (yes)
Watching a video filmed abroad (yes)
Wearing a scarf in the presence of the Chinese flag (no)
Wearing a hijab (if you are under 45) (no)
Going to a mosque (no)
Praying (no)
Fasting (no)
Listening to a religious lecture (no)
Not letting officials scan your irises (the fuck)
Not letting officials download everything you have on your phone (it's my phone for god sake)
Not making voice recordings to give to officials (why would I need video recordings)
Speaking your native language in school (yes)
Speaking your native language in government work groups (no)
Speaking with someone abroad (via Skype, WeChat, etc.) (yes)
Wearing a shirt with Arabic lettered writing on it (no)
Having a full beard (no)
Wearing any clothes with religious iconography (no)
Not attending mandatory propaganda classes (not applicable)
Not attending mandatory flag-raising ceremonies (not applicable)
Not attending public struggle sessions (the public humiliation of political rivals) (not applicable and never attended)
Refusing to denounce your family members or yourself in these public struggle sessions (not applicable)
Trying to kill yourself when detained by the police (skip)
Trying to kill yourself when in the education camps (skip)
Performing a traditional funeral (no)
Inviting multiple families to your house without registering with the police department (yes)
Being related to anyone who has done any of the above (yes)

So NSG, how did I do?

Pretty good- I’d just stop meeting with foreigners.

How could you not meet with foreigners? It's hard to resist since I love learning about the world and what it's like in other places.

[Communist Zombie Horde]

Pretty good- I’d just stop meeting with foreigners.

How could you not meet with foreigners? It's hard to resist since I love learning about the world and what it's like in other places.

Don’t- just keep on moving. Some things are better not known.

[Outer Sparta]

How could you not meet with foreigners? It's hard to resist since I love learning about the world and what it's like in other places.

Don’t- just keep on moving. Some things are better not known.

Maybe I know too much. That could be my problem.

[Senkaku]

Owning a tent - yes
Telling others not to swear - no
Speaking with someone who has travelled abroad - yes
Owning welding equipment - maybe? I rented it for a while, it's a long story
Telling others not to sin - no
Owning extra food - I don't know how much food is enough to raise flags
Eating breakfast before the sun comes up - sometimes
Merely knowing someone who has travelled abroad - yes
Owning a compass - yes
Arguing with an official - no (unless the security guard in this one building counts lol)
Publicly stating that China is inferior to some other country - I've criticized the PRC in comparison to a lot of countries so probably
Owning multiple knives - yes (I have like a bread knife, a paring knife, and a bigger cutting knife for the kitchen, and a couple pocket knives from my Boy Scout days?)
Sending a petition that complains about local officials - yeah, I think so?
Having too many children - lol no
Abstaining from alcohol - nope
Not allowing officials to sleep in your bed, eat your food, and live in your house - yeah idt I'd be on board w that
Having a VPN - no, but I should probs get one lol
Abstaining from cigarettes - yes
Not having your government ID on your person - not usually
Having WhatsApp - no
Wailing, publicly grieving, or otherwise acting sad when your parents die - I'll probably be upset, but they're still alive
Not letting officials take your DNA - probably
Watching a video filmed abroad - yes
Wearing a scarf in the presence of the Chinese flag - like a headscarf, or just any kind of scarf? If the former no, if the latter probably at some point
Wearing a hijab (if you are under 45) - no
Going to a mosque - no
Praying - no
Fasting - sometimes I forget to eat for surprisingly long times lol
Listening to a religious lecture - no
Not letting officials scan your irises - please leave my eyes alone sir (((
Not letting officials download everything you have on your phone - LMAO make me bitch
Not making voice recordings to give to officials - no
Speaking your native language in school - uh yeah
Speaking your native language in government work groups - if I were part of a government work group, I assume I still would
Speaking with someone abroad (via Skype, WeChat, etc.) - yes
Wearing a shirt with Arabic lettered writing on it - yes, actually, from a gift shop at the Mezquita in Cordoba lmao
Having a full beard - no
Wearing any clothes with religious iconography - no
Not attending mandatory propaganda classes - N/A ig
Not attending mandatory flag-raising ceremonies - see above
Not attending public struggle sessions (the public humiliation of political rivals) - see above
Refusing to denounce your family members or yourself in these public struggle sessions - I might denounce myself but idt I'd denounce family members
Trying to kill yourself when detained by the police - N/A
Trying to kill yourself when in the education camps - I might, tbh, they sound terrible
Performing a traditional funeral - I dunno
Inviting multiple families to your house without registering with the police department - yes
Being related to anyone who has done any of the above - yes

ruh-roh, looks like I'm an extremist!

[Senkaku]

Pretty good- I’d just stop meeting with foreigners.

How could you not meet with foreigners? It's hard to resist since I love learning about the world and what it's like in other places.

Xinjiang has very tight travel restrictions nowadays, and it's also just kind of isolated, so this is probably not QUITE as extreme as we might think (though plenty of Kazakhs, for example, go back and forth, so it's not nothing).

[Outer Sparta]

How could you not meet with foreigners? It's hard to resist since I love learning about the world and what it's like in other places.

Xinjiang has very tight travel restrictions nowadays, and it's also just kind of isolated, so this is probably not QUITE as extreme as we might think (though plenty of Kazakhs, for example, go back and forth, so it's not nothing).

I have been to Xinjiang when I was in China three years ago, and there was quite a bit of security at the railway station. Even the hotel I stayed at had a small security system.

[Vallermoore]

Owning a tent (no)
Telling others not to swear (no)
Speaking with someone who has travelled abroad (yes)
Owning welding equipment (no)
Telling others not to sin (no)
Owning extra food (not at the moment, I'm on a diet!)
Eating breakfast before the sun comes up (no in summer, yes in winter occasionally)
Merely knowing someone who has travelled abroad (yes)
Owning a compass (yes, although not an accurate one)
Arguing with an official (no, it's not worth getting in trouble)
Publicly stating that China is inferior to some other country (no)
Owning multiple knives (yes)
Sending a petition that complains about local officials (no)
Having too many children (no, I don't have any children at all and am unlikely to have any.)
Abstaining from alcohol (yes)
Not allowing officials to sleep in your bed, eat your food, and live in your house (yes)
Having a VPN (yes)
Abstaining from cigarettes (yes)
Not having your government ID on your person (yes)
Having WhatsApp (no)
Wailing, publicly grieving, or otherwise acting sad when your parents die (My parents haven't died)
Not letting officials take your DNA (yes)
Watching a video filmed abroad (yes)
Wearing a scarf in the presence of the Chinese flag (no, I don't have a Chinese flag or see it displayed anywhere)
Wearing a hijab (if you are under 45) (no, I'm male. I'd look stupid in a hijab.)
Going to a mosque (no)
Praying (yes, but not very often)
Fasting (no)
Listening to a religious lecture (no)
Not letting officials scan your irises (yes)
Not letting officials download everything you have on your phone (yes)
Not making voice recordings to give to officials (yes)
Speaking your native language in school (yes)
Speaking your native language in government work groups (no)
Speaking with someone abroad (via Skype, WeChat, etc.) (yes)
Wearing a shirt with Arabic lettered writing on it (no)
Having a full beard (no, too itchy for a start.)
Wearing any clothes with religious iconography (no)
Not attending mandatory propaganda classes (never done it)
Not attending mandatory flag-raising ceremonies (never done it)
Not attending public struggle sessions (the public humiliation of political rivals) (never done it)
Refusing to denounce your family members or yourself in these public struggle sessions (not applicable)
Trying to kill yourself when detained by the police (definitely not applicable
Trying to kill yourself when in the education camps (definitely not applicable)
Performing a traditional funeral (yes)
Inviting multiple families to your house without registering with the police department (yes)
Being related to anyone who has done any of the above (yes)

[Novus America]

I already know I would be tossed in the Gulag if I were Chinese in China.
Not the Muslim “extremist” concentration camps, the general gulag for political prisoners.

Despite my nationalism I am completely irreverent towards and extremely critical of the government, politicians and policies.

I ask lots of questions and make too many suggestions.

I do not meekly do what I am told and obey the government without question.
So Gulag for me.

[Flawless Walruses]

The more I think about it, the more I see the context within Xinjiang.

For instance, owning a tent and compass means you want to go mountaineering. Now who takes a hike to a mountain? Filthy Islamist rebels.

Telling people not to swear or to sin? A sign of a moral compass different from that of Emperor Poohbah's -- rebellious.

Attending a traditional funeral? You entertain a people and a way of life distinctly different from that promulgated from Beijing -- that marks you as a rebel. Ditto for making your sadness too obvious, etc.

This

[Senkaku]

The more I think about it, the more I see the context within Xinjiang.

For instance, owning a tent and compass means you want to go mountaineering. Now who takes a hike to a mountain? Filthy Islamist rebels.

Telling people not to swear or to sin? A sign of a moral compass different from that of Emperor Poohbah's -- rebellious.

Attending a traditional funeral? You entertain a people and a way of life distinctly different from that promulgated from Beijing -- that marks you as a rebel. Ditto for making your sadness too obvious, etc.

Oh yeah, it all makes sense if you think about it from the perspective of a paranoid MSS officer:

Owning a tent: planning to flee into the countryside to prosecute a guerrilla campaign
Telling others not to swear: religious fanatic
Speaking with someone who has travelled abroad: planning to go abroad to receive terrorist training/a foreign operative/an informant for the evil separatists living in exile
Owning welding equipment: planning to manufacture weapons
Telling others not to sin: religious fanatic
Owning extra food: stockpiling for the coming war
Eating breakfast before the sun comes up: adhere to traditional fasts... like Ramadan... religious fanatic!
Merely knowing someone who has travelled abroad: planning to go abroad to receive terrorist training/a foreign operative/an informant for the evil separatists living in exile
Owning a compass: planning to flee into the countryside to prosecute a guerrilla campaign
Arguing with an official: Political dissenter
Publicly stating that China is inferior to some other country: Political dissenter, disloyal and unpatriotic, perhaps with a greater allegiance to a foreign power
Owning multiple knives: TERRORIST AHHHH KUNMING 2.0
Sending a petition that complains about local officials: Political dissenter
Having too many children: Religious fanatic
Abstaining from alcohol: Religious fanatic
Not allowing officials to sleep in your bed, eat your food, and live in your house: Political dissenter/religious fanatic/strong ethnic identity
Having a VPN: Political dissenter/possible spy
Abstaining from cigarettes: Religious fanatic
Not having your government ID on your person: Political dissenter/religious fanatic/possible spy/planning to flee into the countryside
Having WhatsApp: Political dissenter/possible spy
Wailing, publicly grieving, or otherwise acting sad when your parents die: Religious fanatic
Not letting officials take your DNA: Political dissenter/religious fanatic/possible spy
Watching a video filmed abroad: Political dissenter/planning to go abroad to receive terrorist training/a foreign operative/an informant for the evil separatists living in exile
Wearing a scarf in the presence of the Chinese flag: Religious fanatic/disloyal & unpatriotic
Wearing a hijab (if you are under 45): Religious fanatic
Going to a mosque: Religious fanatic
Praying: Religious fanatic
Fasting: Religious fanatic
Listening to a religious lecture: Religious fanatic
Not letting officials scan your irises: Political dissenter/possible spy/religious fanatic
Not letting officials download everything you have on your phone: Political dissenter/possible spy
Not making voice recordings to give to officials: Political dissenter/possible spy
Speaking your native language in school: Strong ethnic identity AKA possible separatist
Speaking your native language in government work groups: Strong ethnic identity AKA possible separatist
Speaking with someone abroad (via Skype, WeChat, etc.): planning to go abroad to receive terrorist training/a foreign operative/an informant for the evil separatists living in exile
Wearing a shirt with Arabic lettered writing on it: Religious fanatic
Having a full beard: Religious fanatic
Wearing any clothes with religious iconography: Religious fanatic
Not attending mandatory propaganda classes: Disloyal & unpatriotic
Not attending mandatory flag-raising ceremonies: Disloyal & unpatriotic
Not attending public struggle sessions (the public humiliation of political rivals): Not loyal to the Party
Refusing to denounce your family members or yourself in these public struggle sessions: Not loyal to the Party
Trying to kill yourself when detained by the police: Terrorist/spy
Trying to kill yourself when in the education camps: Terrorist/spy
Performing a traditional funeral: Religious fanatic/possible ethnic separatist
Inviting multiple families to your house without registering with the police department: Plotting terrorism or espionage
Being related to anyone who has done any of the above: whatever they did

[El-Amin Caliphate]

To say, "ethno-nationalism" among the Uyghurs, why do many of them want to be independent from China in the first place?

I mean all you have to do is see what's happening in East Turkestan go get your answer. Like this for example: https://youtu.be/Qa9w3wUWWAE

[El-Amin Caliphate]

My turn:

Owning a tent: no
Telling others not to swear: yes
Speaking with someone who has travelled abroad: yes
Owning welding equipment: I think so
Telling others not to sin: yes
Owning extra food: yes
Eating breakfast before the sun comes up: insha-Allah, 3/4 nights left
Merely knowing someone who has travelled abroad: yes
Owning a compass: yes
Arguing with an official: no
Publicly stating that China is inferior to some other country: now I am
Owning multiple knives: yes
Sending a petition that complains about local officials: no
Having too many children: no
Abstaining from alcohol: yes
Not allowing officials to sleep in your bed, eat your food, and live in your house: yes
Having a VPN: idk what that is, so I don't think so
Abstaining from cigarettes: yes
Not having your government ID on your person: yes
Having WhatsApp: no
Wailing, publicly grieving, or otherwise acting sad when your parents die: no
Not letting officials take your DNA: yes
Watching a video filmed abroad: yes
Wearing a scarf in the presence of the Chinese flag: no
Wearing a hijab (if you are under 45): no
Going to a mosque: yes
Praying: yes
Fasting: insha-Allah
Listening to a religious lecture: yes
Not letting officials scan your irises: yes
Not letting officials download everything you have on your phone: yes
Not making voice recordings to give to officials: yes
Speaking your native language in school: yes
Speaking your native language in government work groups: yes
Speaking with someone abroad (via Skype, WeChat, etc.): yes
Wearing a shirt with Arabic lettered writing on it: no
Having a full beard: no
Wearing any clothes with religious iconography: yes
Not attending mandatory propaganda classes: yes
Not attending mandatory flag-raising ceremonies: yes
Not attending public struggle sessions (the public humiliation of political rivals): yes
Refusing to denounce your family members or yourself in these public struggle sessions: no
Trying to kill yourself when detained by the police: no
Trying to kill yourself when in the education camps: no
Performing a traditional funeral: insha-Allah
Inviting multiple families to your house without registering with the police department: yes
Being related to anyone who has done any of the above: yes

Extremist meter: off the charts, AlHamdulillah

[Tetradimensional Overworld]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xn_J3RB6W4o
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hrPAagXeky0
China apologists in a nutshell (oh wait they do live in a nutshell)

[Purpelia]

Sorry, never gonna be on board with this line of thinking. All human beings have basic rights and dignity, and any government that fails to respect that should be toppled, whether it's Maduro running his people over with tanks or Xi throwing people in prison camps.

No they don't. They have what ever rights they agree on as a group and force the government to give them. Rights don't come out of thin air or from some magical sky daddy but from the blood, struggle and toil of the people that hold them.
Which is why different cultures and thus different countries have different sets of rights. Different people simply hold different things to be or not be worth fighting for.

[Sada Difrium]

Let me say it again: Religious freedom is the first step towards improving relations with the people in Xinjiang. It doesn't matter who started it or whether the Uyghurs deserve it. You asked me pages ago to propose a solution, and I gave you one. Since then, you have not addressed why it would not work, only why you don't like it.

I already pointed out why the solution wouldn't work. Because lack of religious freedom isn't the reason for Uyghur terrorism. The cause of Uyghur terrorism is Uyghur culture, Islamic fundamentalism and Uyghur ethno-supremacism, an ideological worldview that justifies and encourages their young people to commit violence and target people in Xinjiang for their race and religion. Its not a 'lack of religious freedom'. And I already gave you evidence for this suggestion - the fact that religious freedoms in China were suppressed for everyone during the Cultural Revolution, and yet you don't see Christians and believers in Chinese ancestral worship and folk religions taking up arms and bombing buildings like the Uyghur Muslims are. That proves the problem isn't 'lack of religious freedom' but something poisonous in the Uyghur culture and community, specifically. So yes, I've addressed multiple times why 'more religious freedom' won't work at all, because lack of religious freedoms isn't the problem.

Did you miss the part of my post where I already said religious freedom isn't the root cause? Why do you keep arguing over a different point than the one actually at hand?

[Sada Difrium]

Sorry, never gonna be on board with this line of thinking. All human beings have basic rights and dignity, and any government that fails to respect that should be toppled, whether it's Maduro running his people over with tanks or Xi throwing people in prison camps.

No they don't. They have what ever rights they agree on as a group and force the government to give them. Rights don't come out of thin air or from some magical sky daddy but from the blood, struggle and toil of the people that hold them.
Which is why different cultures and thus different countries have different sets of rights. Different people simply hold different things to be or not be worth fighting for.

Let me reword Senkaku's statement then. All human beings deserve basic rights and dignity.

[Baltenstein]

Haven't read through the last 19 pages, but is the list in the OP actually for reals or some over-the-top satire?
Neither would surprise me.

[Sada Difrium]

Haven't read through the last 19 pages, but is the list in the OP actually for reals or some over-the-top satire?
Neither would surprise me.

I think someone said these were leaked MSS documents?

[Purpelia]

No they don't. They have what ever rights they agree on as a group and force the government to give them. Rights don't come out of thin air or from some magical sky daddy but from the blood, struggle and toil of the people that hold them.
Which is why different cultures and thus different countries have different sets of rights. Different people simply hold different things to be or not be worth fighting for.

Let me reword Senkaku's statement then. All human beings deserve basic rights and dignity.

That is a literal contradiction in words. Deserving by definition means you have earned something. And it is very clear that what you actually mean is that they should be entitled to these things with no effort on their part. Which in turn means that not only is your statement wrongly formulated language vise but that it is also incredibly naive.

[Skyhooked]

Let me reword Senkaku's statement then. All human beings deserve basic rights and dignity.

That is a literal contradiction in words. Deserving by definition means you have earned something. And it is very clear that what you actually mean is that they should be entitled to these things with no effort on their part. Which in turn means that not only is your statement wrongly formulated language vise but that it is also incredibly naive.

All human beings (aliens too) must have lots of rights and freedoms. Naive, but still far better than oppression and tyranny.

[Sada Difrium]

Let me reword Senkaku's statement then. All human beings deserve basic rights and dignity.

That is a literal contradiction in words. Deserving by definition means you have earned something. And it is very clear that what you actually mean is that they should be entitled to these things with no effort on their part. Which in turn means that not only is your statement wrongly formulated language vise but that it is also incredibly naive.

de·serve
verb, do something or have or show qualities worthy of (reward or punishment).

Human beings are sentient, which is a quality that is worthy of human rights.

[The Alma Mater]

Human beings are sentient, which is a quality that is worthy of human rights.

Pigs are also sentient. We still eat bacon.

[Purpelia]

That is a literal contradiction in words. Deserving by definition means you have earned something. And it is very clear that what you actually mean is that they should be entitled to these things with no effort on their part. Which in turn means that not only is your statement wrongly formulated language vise but that it is also incredibly naive.

All human beings (aliens too) must have lots of rights and freedoms. Naive, but still far better than oppression and tyranny.

The only thing that is a must is death. That's the one thing we get for free. Everything else has to be taken.