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PostPosted: Tue May 14, 2019 10:43 pm
by The Aria
The Black Forrest wrote:
The Aria wrote:
I found it ironic that one of your sources says you need to give vaccines to baby's while another one of your sources says you cant give vaccines to babies because there immunity system cant handle it


Which two? Curious to see if you are misreading it.....


I believe it was how vaccines prevent disease and herd immunity and vaccines

PostPosted: Tue May 14, 2019 10:47 pm
by The Free Joy State
The Aria wrote:


I found it ironic that one of your sources says you need to give vaccines to baby's while another one of your sources says you cant give vaccines to babies because there immunity system cant handle it

The CDC says "by age two" (kind of stretching the definition of a baby), while the herd immunity article mentions vaccinating babies of 15-18 months (while babies under three months are most susceptible to pertussis).

I fail to see either irony or contradiction.

PostPosted: Tue May 14, 2019 10:47 pm
by The Black Forrest
The Aria wrote:
The Black Forrest wrote:
Which two? Curious to see if you are misreading it.....


I believe it was how vaccines prevent disease and herd immunity and vaccines


Quick scanned both. As Neanderthaland mentioned; it depends on the vaccine and the age.

PostPosted: Tue May 14, 2019 10:49 pm
by The Black Forrest
Galloism wrote:
The Black Forrest wrote:
When did you get the vaccine? Work in areas where it was still an issue at the time?

At the time, it was a requirement to attend college. Public schools had eliminated it as a requirement, but my chosen college still required it before you could attend, so I got it when I was like... 16 or 17. Something like that.


Was that before WWII? ;)

They retired it about 6 years before I entered high school. I don't think I ever had it.....

PostPosted: Tue May 14, 2019 10:51 pm
by The Aria
The Free Joy State wrote:
The Aria wrote:
I found it ironic that one of your sources says you need to give vaccines to baby's while another one of your sources says you cant give vaccines to babies because there immunity system cant handle it

The CDC says "by age two" (kind of stretching the definition of a baby), while the herd immunity article mentions babies of 15-18 months.

I fail to see either irony or contradiction.


Yeah "by age 2" which means before.

I need to go now. talk tomorrow

PostPosted: Tue May 14, 2019 10:54 pm
by Galloism
The Black Forrest wrote:
Galloism wrote:At the time, it was a requirement to attend college. Public schools had eliminated it as a requirement, but my chosen college still required it before you could attend, so I got it when I was like... 16 or 17. Something like that.


Was that before WWII? ;)

They retried it about 6 years before I entered high school. I don't think I ever had it.....

Well, it kinda sucked.

Lymph nodes in my armpits hurt - felt like I was lugging around two big watermelons.

I might be exaggerating a bit with time.

A bit.

PostPosted: Tue May 14, 2019 10:57 pm
by Neanderthaland
The Aria wrote:
The Free Joy State wrote:The CDC says "by age two" (kind of stretching the definition of a baby), while the herd immunity article mentions babies of 15-18 months.

I fail to see either irony or contradiction.


Yeah "by age 2" which means before.

I need to go now. talk tomorrow

15-18 months is before age 2. 2 is 24 months.

PostPosted: Wed May 15, 2019 3:17 pm
by Katganistan
Nanocyberia wrote:Even mandatory vaccination is making people mad; just ask the French or the Swiss...


Too fucking bad. You don't want to be vaccinated and you don't have a medical reason for it, then you can't be where you can spread it to others.

Good luck if you have a car accident -- can't bring you to the ER where you could infect all sorts of injured, sick, and immuno-deficient people.

Oh, but that's cruel. We should probably charge you what it costs to keep you in total isolation so you don't spread anything to others.

PostPosted: Wed May 15, 2019 8:29 pm
by LiberNovusAmericae
Inkopolitia wrote:
Chernoslavia wrote:
Amazing how the left continue to inadvertently show their true colors when it comes to things like healthcare, vaccines, and guns.

I am a right-wing Libertarian, and I believe that vaccines should be mandatory. Why? Bringing back dead diseases is a bad thing.

This ^^

PostPosted: Wed May 15, 2019 9:25 pm
by The Aria
LiberNovusAmericae wrote:
Inkopolitia wrote:I am a right-wing Libertarian, and I believe that vaccines should be mandatory. Why? Bringing back dead diseases is a bad thing.

This ^^


According to https://www.answers.com/Q/What_do_vaccines_contain vaccines contain weakened or dead version of what its supposed to prevent.

So you are saying you believe injecting weakened or dead disease should be mandatory because bringing back dead diseases is bad.

Huh? :blink:

PostPosted: Wed May 15, 2019 9:26 pm
by Gormwood
The Aria wrote:
LiberNovusAmericae wrote:This ^^


According to https://www.answers.com/Q/What_do_vaccines_contain vaccines contain weakened or dead version of what its supposed to prevent.

So you are saying you believe injecting weakened or dead disease should be mandatory because bringing back dead diseases is bad.

Huh? :blink:

If you're that nostalgic for the Black Plague...

PostPosted: Wed May 15, 2019 9:27 pm
by Galloism
Gormwood wrote:
The Aria wrote:
According to https://www.answers.com/Q/What_do_vaccines_contain vaccines contain weakened or dead version of what its supposed to prevent.

So you are saying you believe injecting weakened or dead disease should be mandatory because bringing back dead diseases is bad.

Huh? :blink:

If you're that nostalgic for the Black Plague...

We don’t vaccinate against that.

PostPosted: Wed May 15, 2019 9:28 pm
by Kowani
The Aria wrote:
LiberNovusAmericae wrote:This ^^


According to https://www.answers.com/Q/What_do_vaccines_contain vaccines contain weakened or dead version of what its supposed to prevent.

So you are saying you believe injecting weakened or dead disease should be mandatory because bringing back dead diseases is bad.

Huh? :blink:

…The body can fight off the weakened/dead ones easily, and in doing so, grant immunity. Without them, those chances drop faster than a fat guy out a window.

PostPosted: Wed May 15, 2019 9:29 pm
by Gormwood
Galloism wrote:
Gormwood wrote:If you're that nostalgic for the Black Plague...

We don’t vaccinate against that.

So much fun if someone is exposed to it.

PostPosted: Wed May 15, 2019 9:31 pm
by The Black Forrest
The Aria wrote:
LiberNovusAmericae wrote:This ^^


According to https://www.answers.com/Q/What_do_vaccines_contain vaccines contain weakened or dead version of what its supposed to prevent.

So you are saying you believe injecting weakened or dead disease should be mandatory because bringing back dead diseases is bad.

Huh? :blink:


You are misstating the use. You are basically suggesting people are being injected with the disease.

If the disease is extinct; there isn't a need for the vaccine anymore. Small pox is extinct. We don't give out the vaccines anymore. That ended 48 years ago.

Measles, mumps and rubella are still very much around.

Body autonomy brought measles back to the US.

PostPosted: Wed May 15, 2019 9:31 pm
by The Aria
Gormwood wrote:
The Aria wrote:
According to https://www.answers.com/Q/What_do_vaccines_contain vaccines contain weakened or dead version of what its supposed to prevent.

So you are saying you believe injecting weakened or dead disease should be mandatory because bringing back dead diseases is bad.

Huh? :blink:

If you're that nostalgic for the Black Plague...


How am I nostalgic for the black plague black plague?

PostPosted: Wed May 15, 2019 9:32 pm
by Deutschess Kaiserreich
Katganistan wrote:
Nanocyberia wrote:Even mandatory vaccination is making people mad; just ask the French or the Swiss...


Too fucking bad. You don't want to be vaccinated and you don't have a medical reason for it, then you can't be where you can spread it to others.

Good luck if you have a car accident -- can't bring you to the ER where you could infect all sorts of injured, sick, and immuno-deficient people.

Oh, but that's cruel. We should probably charge you what it costs to keep you in total isolation so you don't spread anything to others.

Agreed.

PostPosted: Wed May 15, 2019 9:32 pm
by The Black Forrest
Galloism wrote:
Gormwood wrote:If you're that nostalgic for the Black Plague...

We don’t vaccinate against that.


True. There are antibiotics to help fight it.

PostPosted: Wed May 15, 2019 9:46 pm
by Duhon
The Aria wrote:
LiberNovusAmericae wrote:This ^^


According to https://www.answers.com/Q/What_do_vaccines_contain vaccines contain weakened or dead version of what its supposed to prevent.

So you are saying you believe injecting weakened or dead disease should be mandatory because bringing back dead diseases is bad.

Huh? :blink:


You need the virus as an ingredient so that the immune system recognizes that it's a threat and so develop antibodies for future attempts at infection.

PostPosted: Wed May 15, 2019 9:47 pm
by Neanderthaland
The Aria wrote:
LiberNovusAmericae wrote:This ^^


According to https://www.answers.com/Q/What_do_vaccines_contain vaccines contain weakened or dead version of what its supposed to prevent.

So you are saying you believe injecting weakened or dead disease should be mandatory because bringing back dead diseases is bad.

Huh? :blink:

You see contradictions where they don't exist. Both here and in the 2 years thing.

PostPosted: Wed May 15, 2019 9:48 pm
by Gormwood
Neanderthaland wrote:
The Aria wrote:
According to https://www.answers.com/Q/What_do_vaccines_contain vaccines contain weakened or dead version of what its supposed to prevent.

So you are saying you believe injecting weakened or dead disease should be mandatory because bringing back dead diseases is bad.

Huh? :blink:

You see contradictions where they don't exist. Both here and in the 2 years thing.

Some people are determined to see vaccines as bad and unnecessary.

PostPosted: Wed May 15, 2019 9:49 pm
by Neanderthaland
Galloism wrote:
Gormwood wrote:If you're that nostalgic for the Black Plague...

We don’t vaccinate against that.

We generally don't, but you can.

PostPosted: Wed May 15, 2019 9:52 pm
by Deutschess Kaiserreich
Neanderthaland wrote:
Galloism wrote:We don’t vaccinate against that.

We generally don't, but you can.

SCP-049 would like to know your location.

PostPosted: Wed May 15, 2019 9:52 pm
by The Aria
You are misstating the use. You are basically suggesting people are being injected with the disease
.

How am i misstating the use?

If the disease is extinct; there isn't a need for the vaccine anymore. Small pox is extinct. We don't give out the vaccines anymore. That ended 48 years ago.


Then why are we talking about it?

Body autonomy brought measles back to the US.


I disagree. Can you prove it?

PostPosted: Wed May 15, 2019 10:00 pm
by The Aria
Neanderthaland wrote:
The Aria wrote:
According to https://www.answers.com/Q/What_do_vaccines_contain vaccines contain weakened or dead version of what its supposed to prevent.

So you are saying you believe injecting weakened or dead disease should be mandatory because bringing back dead diseases is bad.

Huh? :blink:

You see contradictions where they don't exist. Both here and in the 2 years thing.


How can you say that they dont exist are you blind? Please explain how they dont exist