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Nurgle is pleased with this spreading of filth and disease

Gormwood wrote:Regardless of your political mind, Russian cyberwarfare has real world effects you should worry about.

Russia trolls 'spreading vaccination misinformation' to create discord

Red Scare ‘cept Red is replaced by Russian.

Free Arabian Nation wrote:Nurgle is pleased with this spreading of filth and disease

Death for the death god!!

Western Vale Confederacy wrote:

Gormwood wrote:Regardless of your political mind, Russian cyberwarfare has real world effects you should worry about.

Russia trolls 'spreading vaccination misinformation' to create discord

Red Scare ‘cept Red is replaced by Russian.

Perfectly nothing wrong with a foreign power encouraging and riling up antivaxxers in the midst of a measles comeback tour.

Gormwood wrote:

Western Vale Confederacy wrote:
Red Scare ‘cept Red is replaced by Russian.

Perfectly nothing wrong with a foreign power encouraging and riling up antivaxxers in the midst of a measles comeback tour.

Vale's insinuation is that the Red Scare was an imagined panic, which it indeed was, because the Communist Party did not have anywhere near the power and influence McCarthy alleged it had.

While I disagree, that wasn't his/her point.

The Rich Port wrote:

Gormwood wrote:Perfectly nothing wrong with a foreign power encouraging and riling up antivaxxers in the midst of a measles comeback tour.

Vale's insinuation is that the Red Scare was an imagined panic, which it indeed was, because the Communist Party did not have anywhere near the power and influence McCarthy alleged it had.

While I disagree, that wasn't his/her point.

This isn't about communist infiltration, it's about state sponsored trolls preaching to a crowd that already distrust their own government in regards to health and medicine, validating their batshit beliefs and encouraging them to turn their children into plague carriers with their usual behaviors.

What ever it is about you americans need to get your act together and start forcing vaccinations on people on the pain of having their children taken away.

Purpelia wrote:What ever it is about you americans need to get your act together and start forcing vaccinations on people on the pain of having their children taken away.

But that would be mean and undemocratic or something /s

Thermodolia wrote:

Purpelia wrote:What ever it is about you americans need to get your act together and start forcing vaccinations on people on the pain of having their children taken away.

But that would be mean and undemocratic or something /s

It's the same country where assholes actually sued states for the right to let their children spread disease.

Thermodolia wrote:

Purpelia wrote:What ever it is about you americans need to get your act together and start forcing vaccinations on people on the pain of having their children taken away.

But that would be mean and undemocratic or something /s

It's far less intrusive than a bunch of the stuff that you already (and frankly unjustly) take children away for. For once use that hideous disgusting custom for something useful.

Evil Dictators Happyland wrote:

Chernoslavia wrote:And what fresh hell is this where people are being forcefully quarantined whether they have measles or not?

That's... That's what a quarantine is. You keep everyone out of the general population unless and until you are absolutely certain of who does and does not have the disease. This is SOP.

Yes I fucking know what quarantine is, I was in disbelief that it was implemented.

Dooom35796821595 wrote:

Loben wrote:What happened to “my body my choice”

It’s not their bodies, it’s their children their bodies. They were given vaccinations by their more responsible parents.

People are advocating for adults, people who are old enough to make their own decisions, to be forced at gun point to take vaccines.

Thermodolia wrote:

Purpelia wrote:What ever it is about you americans need to get your act together and start forcing vaccinations on people on the pain of having their children taken away.

But that would be mean and undemocratic or something /s

We're not a democracy anyways.

Costa Fierro wrote:

Telconi wrote:
Why? Why do the oh so important rights end when they upset you?

When they endanger public health they do. That is why we tell smokers where they can and cannot smoke.

But you can't tell them to stop smoking.

Liriena wrote:

Chernoslavia wrote:
1. Pointing guns at people and forcing them to have fluids pumped into them, you don't see a problem with that?
2. Because it's aweful, the medical services are lack luster and drives up the costs for even the most basic medicines.

1. If it's to prevent the resurgence of noted child-killers like polio? No.
2. Every single country with universal healthcare spends less than y'all do and the majority of "developed" nations with universal healthcare provide better overall care. Sit down.

1. Not surprised you're in favor of forcing your beliefs on others.
2. According to who? The stupid Commonwealth Fund? And reminder that we too have socialized healthcare.

Conserative Morality wrote:

Greater vakolicci haven wrote:Yeah let's deny children an education because their parents never got them vaccinated.
I'm quite happy that I don't live in your world, since the only jab I've ever had was prior to removing a tooth.

I'd be much happier if you didn't live in my world, since I enjoy not playing "15th Century Plague Roulette".

And I'd be happier if you didn't live in mine, but I guess we all can't have what we want.

Thermodolia wrote:

Chernoslavia wrote:
1. So deny them from going to schools or government facilities. Pointing a gun to their heads and telling them to do so will only make you look bad especially if they don't even have measles. Also, restricting anyone from any human contact just because they haven't got vaxxed is also a human rights violation.

You do realize that mandatory vaccinations doesn’t mean a gun to your head right? Or are you just going to be overly dramatic per the usual?

2. https://mises.org/library/truth-about-swedencare
https://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/p ... 28101.html
https://www.theguardian.com/society/201 ... tion-study
https://www.dailymail.co.uk/health/arti ... er-US.html

You do realize that single payer healthcare isn’t the only form of universal healthcare right? Germany has one of the best healthcare systems in the world and it’s not single payer yet it’s universal

1. Don't lie, otherwise how will you enforce mandatory vaccinations unless you use armed force to make people get them?
2. Source please?

I guess you could say that it's a pretty measleable state of affairs, eh.

HEHEHEHEHEHE

People vaccinated against measles can spread measles. It’s a live virus, which means it’s capable of giving the person measles. So even if 100% of people were vaccinated, there would still be measles outbreaks caused by the vaccine.
CA has one of the strictest vaccination laws. There are less unvaccinated people in CA than in other states which still allow philosophical and religious exemptions.
Measles used to be considered as common and harmless as the common cold in the 50s. It’s not a big deal.

Chernoslavia wrote:

Dooom35796821595 wrote:
It’s not their bodies, it’s their children their bodies. They were given vaccinations by their more responsible parents.

People are advocating for adults, people who are old enough to make their own decisions, to be forced at gun point to take vaccines.

News Flash: The adult antivaxxers are already vaccinated. It's their idiocy in refusing to have their children vaccinated for a variety of inane beliefs that is resulting the Measles Comeback Tour.

Chernoslavia wrote:1. Not surprised you're in favor of forcing your beliefs on others.

Public health and safety is now merely a "belief" like religion.

Gormwood wrote:

Chernoslavia wrote:
People are advocating for adults, people who are old enough to make their own decisions, to be forced at gun point to take vaccines.

News Flash: The adult antivaxxers are already vaccinated. It's their idiocy in refusing to have their children vaccinated for a variety of inane beliefs that is resulting the Measles Comeback Tour.

And what makes you think all anti vaxxers are vaccinated?

Gormwood wrote:

Chernoslavia wrote:1. Not surprised you're in favor of forcing your beliefs on others.

Public health and safety is now merely a "belief" like religion.

Not an argument.

Chernoslavia wrote:

Gormwood wrote:News Flash: The adult antivaxxers are already vaccinated. It's their idiocy in refusing to have their children vaccinated for a variety of inane beliefs that is resulting the Measles Comeback Tour.

And what makes you think all anti vaxxers are vaccinated?

https://ourworldindata.org/grapher/the- ... -year-olds

It seems to be a rather large group, considering this is a worldwide scale.

Chernoslavia wrote:

Gormwood wrote:Public health and safety is now merely a "belief" like religion.

Not an argument.

Actually it is. You're the only one who think public health is optional.