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by MineLegotia and Equestria » Sat May 18, 2019 5:25 am
LiberNovusAmericae wrote:Czechoslovakia and Zakarpattia wrote:Letting your fellow Muslimiyya die of preventable diseases and adding to human suffering in Pakistan to own the secularists and takfiris. Brilliant!
That's what happens when religion regresses back to the middle ages, or never evolves passed it.
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by Thermodolia » Sat May 18, 2019 5:29 am
KinectiA wrote:Strange - I don’t see much about education here. There was a time about 20 yrs ago when vaccinations were correlated with an increase in autism.
A lot of people were concerned about that and were hesitant about vaccinations as a result. Then a lot of doctors and researchers helped clarify that correlation is not causation, and put some effort into explaining to parents which vaccinations were being given and why.
If a parent is mandated to get their child vaccinated with MMR, MMRV, DTaP or any other combination of acronyms, you can expect some pushback. If an explanation is given in easy to understand terms, then compliance is much easier. It only takes a few minutes and no, handing out a printed flier doesn’t count.
I agree with requirements for proof of vaccinations before attending school, summer camp, dance class, sports teams, etc., and registration for these makes that easy and normalizes the idea. When you say it’s mandatory, people get scared.
When you say everyone needs to do it before they can participate in X, it’s not so scary - it’s understandable. A basic education about viruses and how they spread is also important. When you tell someone they can be infected with measles by a carrier who left the room hours ago, that’s easy to understand. I don’t take issue with vaccinations - but I do with “mandatory” and “quarantine.”
by Nanocyberia » Sat May 18, 2019 6:09 am
Nanocyberia wrote:Even mandatory vaccination is making people mad; just ask the French or the Swiss...
by Xmara » Sat May 18, 2019 11:15 am
KinectiA wrote:Strange - I don’t see much about education here. There was a time about 20 yrs ago when vaccinations were correlated with an increase in autism. A lot of people were concerned about that and were hesitant about vaccinations as a result. Then a lot of doctors and researchers helped clarify that correlation is not causation, and put some effort into explaining to parents which vaccinations were being given and why. If a parent is mandated to get their child vaccinated with MMR, MMRV, DTaP or any other combination of acronyms, you can expect some pushback. If an explanation is given in easy to understand terms, then compliance is much easier. It only takes a few minutes and no, handing out a printed flier doesn’t count.
I agree with requirements for proof of vaccinations before attending school, summer camp, dance class, sports teams, etc., and registration for these makes that easy and normalizes the idea. When you say it’s mandatory, people get scared. When you say everyone needs to do it before they can participate in X, it’s not so scary - it’s understandable. A basic education about viruses and how they spread is also important. When you tell someone they can be infected with measles by a carrier who left the room hours ago, that’s easy to understand. I don’t take issue with vaccinations - but I do with “mandatory” and “quarantine.”
by Hurtful Thoughts » Sat May 18, 2019 3:14 pm
Mokostana wrote:See, Hurty cared not if the mission succeeded or not, as long as it was spectacular trainwreck. Sometimes that was the host Nation firing a SCUD into a hospital to destroy a foreign infection and accidentally sparking a rebellion... or accidentally starting the Mokan Drug War
Blackhelm Confederacy wrote:If there was only a "like" button for NS posts....
by Ravennog » Sat May 18, 2019 3:18 pm
Hurtful Thoughts wrote:Duhon wrote:
I was asking a question, not framing HT's post, unless I misunderstood.
... wth?
Therm... no...
Anti-vaccination support groups and social events... they're a thing... and it totally undermines herd-immunity by creating a herd with 0% vaccinations and then spreading it around to other communities like some form of sapient weaponized biological terrorist cell.
Which is why cattle-brokers are forced to kill their entire herd when that happens.
by Sanctum and Ultima » Sat May 18, 2019 3:19 pm
Inner Lands wrote:One men, multiplied by two, divided in four, and obligated to live in eight realms each part of it.
Corrupt Dictator Doges wrote:The former USSR, but with food
by Ravennog » Sat May 18, 2019 3:20 pm
Sanctum and Ultima wrote:Sigh, come on... mandatory vaccinations work. How about we fine $100 per week against anti-vax parents when they refuse to do so?
by Sanctum and Ultima » Sat May 18, 2019 3:21 pm
Inner Lands wrote:One men, multiplied by two, divided in four, and obligated to live in eight realms each part of it.
Corrupt Dictator Doges wrote:The former USSR, but with food
by Ravennog » Sat May 18, 2019 3:22 pm
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by Inkopolitia » Sat May 18, 2019 10:18 pm
by Hurtful Thoughts » Sun May 19, 2019 5:14 am
Mokostana wrote:See, Hurty cared not if the mission succeeded or not, as long as it was spectacular trainwreck. Sometimes that was the host Nation firing a SCUD into a hospital to destroy a foreign infection and accidentally sparking a rebellion... or accidentally starting the Mokan Drug War
Blackhelm Confederacy wrote:If there was only a "like" button for NS posts....
by Sanctum and Ultima » Sun May 19, 2019 5:16 am
Hurtful Thoughts wrote:Is it just me... or has the rate of anti-vax posts started to dwindle via natural selection already?
Well, that or logic has killed their arguements.
Inner Lands wrote:One men, multiplied by two, divided in four, and obligated to live in eight realms each part of it.
Corrupt Dictator Doges wrote:The former USSR, but with food
by Hurtful Thoughts » Sun May 19, 2019 5:18 am
Mokostana wrote:See, Hurty cared not if the mission succeeded or not, as long as it was spectacular trainwreck. Sometimes that was the host Nation firing a SCUD into a hospital to destroy a foreign infection and accidentally sparking a rebellion... or accidentally starting the Mokan Drug War
Blackhelm Confederacy wrote:If there was only a "like" button for NS posts....
by Sanctum and Ultima » Sun May 19, 2019 5:21 am
Inner Lands wrote:One men, multiplied by two, divided in four, and obligated to live in eight realms each part of it.
Corrupt Dictator Doges wrote:The former USSR, but with food
by Valentine Z » Sun May 19, 2019 5:47 am
Xmara wrote:
Andrew Wakefield was exposed as a fraud and lost his medical license roughly a decade after his now retracted paper was published in the Lancet.
And as someone who read his study, I can confirm that it was incredibly crappy and I can’t help but wonder what the publishers were smoking when they decided it was okay to publish in the Lancet.
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by Jakker » Sun May 19, 2019 5:49 am
The Bruce wrote:Mostly I feel sorry for [raiders], because they put in all this effort and at the end of the day have nothing to show for it and have created nothing.
by Hurtful Thoughts » Sun May 19, 2019 6:00 am
Mokostana wrote:See, Hurty cared not if the mission succeeded or not, as long as it was spectacular trainwreck. Sometimes that was the host Nation firing a SCUD into a hospital to destroy a foreign infection and accidentally sparking a rebellion... or accidentally starting the Mokan Drug War
Blackhelm Confederacy wrote:If there was only a "like" button for NS posts....
by NeoOasis » Sun May 19, 2019 5:41 pm
by Inkopolitia » Sun May 19, 2019 5:45 pm
NeoOasis wrote:Inkopolitia wrote:Immunocompromised people, babies and elders exist, you know?
I was gonna go with yourself... the unvaccinated have put themselves in danger. Complications are more common with these diseases than with the vaccines as I understand it.
Also yes... the other people listed above are also in danger.
by Chernoslavia » Sun May 19, 2019 5:57 pm
Thermodolia wrote:Chernoslavia wrote:
Merely being unvaxxed doesn't put anyone in danger.
Actually it does. As it puts you at higher risk of catching a deadly diseaseChernoslavia wrote:
Association fallacy.
No it’s not a fallacy. You are pretty much an anti-vaxxer. You use the same language, terminology, and you refuse to believe that being unvaccinated is harmful.
You’re just mad I called you out on your bullshitChernoslavia wrote:
Of course, I support insurrections against government overreach. and for their own sake they'd best not implement what you propose.
The FBI and CIA thanks you. Don’t worry I’m sure ADX Florence has something to entertain youChernoslavia wrote:
You ain't about that life, sit down.
What? You think that only you can make outlandish claims? Have you seen what I’ve advocated?
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