It is. People aren't obligated to get vaccinated.
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by Chernoslavia » Sat May 04, 2019 10:19 pm
by Indig0 » Sat May 04, 2019 10:23 pm
Gormwood wrote:Chernoslavia wrote:
People are advocating for adults, people who are old enough to make their own decisions, to be forced at gun point to take vaccines.
News Flash: The adult antivaxxers are already vaccinated. It's their idiocy in refusing to have their children vaccinated for a variety of inane beliefs that is resulting the Measles Comeback Tour.
by Kowani » Sat May 04, 2019 10:23 pm
by Kowani » Sat May 04, 2019 10:24 pm
Indig0 wrote:Gormwood wrote:News Flash: The adult antivaxxers are already vaccinated. It's their idiocy in refusing to have their children vaccinated for a variety of inane beliefs that is resulting the Measles Comeback Tour.
News flash: adults who got vaccinated as kids are no longer immune to measles. Vaccine immunity wears off over time. Unlike real immunity, it doesn’t last a lifetime.
Most of the outbreaks occur infecting mostly people (including children) who already got vaccinated against the disease.
by Chernoslavia » Sat May 04, 2019 10:25 pm
by Indig0 » Sat May 04, 2019 10:28 pm
by Kowani » Sat May 04, 2019 10:41 pm
Indig0 wrote:If public health were really the priority, they would be making these mandatory:
No smoking for anyone
No drinking alcohol
All mothers must breastfeed their babies
Everyone must stay home from school/work when sick with a cold. That means 3 weeks, since colds are contagious for that long.
Anyone with a cold or any other contagious illness must wear a face mask.
Overweight people need to receive counseling and forced dietary changes to get their weight to a healthy level.
But most unhealthy activities make someone money. So that’s why ceasing those activities are not encouraged. Vaccines are a big money maker. Smoking used to be considered safe. There was fraudulent science claiming it was.
by Chernoslavia » Sat May 04, 2019 10:47 pm
Kowani wrote:Chernoslavia wrote:
lol oh really? And what are you and the government going to do if people refuse?
Fines, mandatory quarantines, prison time.
Personally, I also advocate taking away their kids, but that’s just me.Indig0 wrote:If public health were really the priority, they would be making these mandatory:
No smoking for anyone
No drinking alcohol
All mothers must breastfeed their babies
Everyone must stay home from school/work when sick with a cold. That means 3 weeks, since colds are contagious for that long.
Anyone with a cold or any other contagious illness must wear a face mask.
Overweight people need to receive counseling and forced dietary changes to get their weight to a healthy level.
But most unhealthy activities make someone money. So that’s why ceasing those activities are not encouraged. Vaccines are a big money maker. Smoking used to be considered safe. There was fraudulent science claiming it was.
You know, Big Pharma’d make more money if people weren’t vaccinated, right?
by Kowani » Sat May 04, 2019 10:48 pm
Chernoslavia wrote:Kowani wrote:Fines, mandatory quarantines, prison time.
Personally, I also advocate taking away their kids, but that’s just me.
You know, Big Pharma’d make more money if people weren’t vaccinated, right?
And if people don't pay the fines, try to force their way out of the quarantine, and run from the law? Nevermind the resources and manpower you will need to enforce those quarantine areas and vaccinations, manpower that you will not have.
by Chernoslavia » Sat May 04, 2019 10:51 pm
Kowani wrote:Chernoslavia wrote:
And if people don't pay the fines, try to force their way out of the quarantine, and run from the law? Nevermind the resources and manpower you will need to enforce those quarantine areas and vaccinations, manpower that you will not have.
The same way you deal with anyone else who runs from the law?
by Kowani » Sat May 04, 2019 10:53 pm
by The Free Joy State » Sat May 04, 2019 10:56 pm
Indig0 wrote:People vaccinated against measles can spread measles. It’s a live virus, which means it’s capable of giving the person measles. So even if 100% of people were vaccinated, there would still be measles outbreaks caused by the vaccine.
There is a theoretical risk that live attentuated vaccines like the MMR can be found in body fluids (known as shedding), but that does NOT mean they are capable of causing the disease in the person vaccinated, much less being passed on, or causing disease in anyone else.
Even the most severely immunocompromised individuals can be around recently vaccinated people with all vaccines, the ONLY exceptions being the live polio vaccine (not used in Australia), and a few very simple precautions are needed for the chicken pox or rotavirus vaccine, or the influenza nasal spray (also not available in Australia).
CA has one of the strictest vaccination laws. There are less unvaccinated people in CA than in other states which still allow philosophical and religious exemptions.
Measles used to be considered as common and harmless as the common cold in the 50s. It’s not a big deal.
by Chernoslavia » Sat May 04, 2019 10:58 pm
by Chernoslavia » Sat May 04, 2019 11:00 pm
The Free Joy State wrote:Indig0 wrote:People vaccinated against measles can spread measles. It’s a live virus, which means it’s capable of giving the person measles. So even if 100% of people were vaccinated, there would still be measles outbreaks caused by the vaccine.
Measles is not caused by the vaccine.
Measles is caused by being around infected people.
I'll just copy this here:
by The Free Joy State » Sat May 04, 2019 11:03 pm
Indig0 wrote:People vaccinated against measles can spread measles. It’s a live virus, which means it’s capable of giving the person measles. So even if 100% of people were vaccinated, there would still be measles outbreaks caused by the vaccine.
by Chernoslavia » Sat May 04, 2019 11:04 pm
The Free Joy State wrote:Chernoslavia wrote:
I don't think he means vaccines cause the infection.
He said:Indig0 wrote:People vaccinated against measles can spread measles. It’s a live virus, which means it’s capable of giving the person measles. So even if 100% of people were vaccinated, there would still be measles outbreaks caused by the vaccine.
Emphases mine.
A scary amount of anti-vaxxer propaganda claims that live vaccines spread infection.
by Kowani » Sat May 04, 2019 11:06 pm
by Estanglia » Sun May 05, 2019 12:22 am
Indig0 wrote:People vaccinated against measles can spread measles. It’s a live virus, which means it’s capable of giving the person measles. So even if 100% of people were vaccinated, there would still be measles outbreaks caused by the vaccine.
CA has one of the strictest vaccination laws. There are less unvaccinated people in CA than in other states which still allow philosophical and religious exemptions.
Measles used to be considered as common and harmless as the common cold in the 50s. It’s not a big deal.
Indig0 wrote:Gormwood wrote:News Flash: The adult antivaxxers are already vaccinated. It's their idiocy in refusing to have their children vaccinated for a variety of inane beliefs that is resulting the Measles Comeback Tour.
News flash: adults who got vaccinated as kids are no longer immune to measles. Vaccine immunity wears off over time. Unlike real immunity, it doesn’t last a lifetime.
Most of the outbreaks occur infecting mostly people (including children) who already got vaccinated against the disease.
Indig0 wrote:If public health were really the priority, they would be making these mandatory:
No smoking for anyone
No drinking alcohol
All mothers must breastfeed their babies
Everyone must stay home from school/work when sick with a cold. That means 3 weeks, since colds are contagious for that long.
Anyone with a cold or any other contagious illness must wear a face mask.
Overweight people need to receive counseling and forced dietary changes to get their weight to a healthy level.
But most unhealthy activities make someone money. So that’s why ceasing those activities are not encouraged. Vaccines are a big money maker. Smoking used to be considered safe. There was fraudulent science claiming it was.
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by Esternial » Sun May 05, 2019 4:08 am
Estanglia wrote:Indig0 wrote:People vaccinated against measles can spread measles. It’s a live virus, which means it’s capable of giving the person measles. So even if 100% of people were vaccinated, there would still be measles outbreaks caused by the vaccine.
CA has one of the strictest vaccination laws. There are less unvaccinated people in CA than in other states which still allow philosophical and religious exemptions.
Measles used to be considered as common and harmless as the common cold in the 50s. It’s not a big deal.
I'm pretty sure that the viruses they use in vaccines are dead or otherwise incapable of infection, otherwise, we should be seeing a fuckton more outbreaks.
And attitudes in the past can be wrong, especially if they didn't fully understand it.
Indig0 wrote:News flash: adults who got vaccinated as kids are no longer immune to measles. Vaccine immunity wears off over time. Unlike real immunity, it doesn’t last a lifetime.
Most of the outbreaks occur infecting mostly people (including children) who already got vaccinated against the disease.
Source?
by Gormwood » Wed May 08, 2019 2:22 pm
by Kowani » Wed May 08, 2019 8:24 pm
Gormwood wrote:Under the No Shit Department...
Kentucky teen who sued over school ban for refusing chickenpox vaccination now has chickenpox
by Valentine Z » Fri May 10, 2019 5:39 pm
Kowani wrote:Gormwood wrote:Under the No Shit Department...
Kentucky teen who sued over school ban for refusing chickenpox vaccination now has chickenpox
Fucking genius.
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by Dooom35796821595 » Tue May 14, 2019 5:35 pm
Gormwood wrote:The closest thing in real life to a Nurgle Cult.
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