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Postby Free Arabian Nation » Sat May 04, 2019 1:00 pm

Nurgle is pleased with this spreading of filth and disease
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Postby Western Vale Confederacy » Sat May 04, 2019 1:03 pm

Gormwood wrote:Regardless of your political mind, Russian cyberwarfare has real world effects you should worry about.

Russia trolls 'spreading vaccination misinformation' to create discord


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Postby Thermodolia » Sat May 04, 2019 1:12 pm

Free Arabian Nation wrote:Nurgle is pleased with this spreading of filth and disease

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Postby Gormwood » Sat May 04, 2019 1:54 pm

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Gormwood wrote:Regardless of your political mind, Russian cyberwarfare has real world effects you should worry about.

Russia trolls 'spreading vaccination misinformation' to create discord


Red Scare ‘cept Red is replaced by Russian.

Perfectly nothing wrong with a foreign power encouraging and riling up antivaxxers in the midst of a measles comeback tour.
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Postby The Rich Port » Sat May 04, 2019 2:05 pm

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Red Scare ‘cept Red is replaced by Russian.

Perfectly nothing wrong with a foreign power encouraging and riling up antivaxxers in the midst of a measles comeback tour.


Vale's insinuation is that the Red Scare was an imagined panic, which it indeed was, because the Communist Party did not have anywhere near the power and influence McCarthy alleged it had.

While I disagree, that wasn't his/her point.
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Postby Gormwood » Sat May 04, 2019 2:19 pm

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Gormwood wrote:Perfectly nothing wrong with a foreign power encouraging and riling up antivaxxers in the midst of a measles comeback tour.


Vale's insinuation is that the Red Scare was an imagined panic, which it indeed was, because the Communist Party did not have anywhere near the power and influence McCarthy alleged it had.

While I disagree, that wasn't his/her point.

This isn't about communist infiltration, it's about state sponsored trolls preaching to a crowd that already distrust their own government in regards to health and medicine, validating their batshit beliefs and encouraging them to turn their children into plague carriers with their usual behaviors.
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Postby Purpelia » Sat May 04, 2019 2:27 pm

What ever it is about you americans need to get your act together and start forcing vaccinations on people on the pain of having their children taken away.
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Postby Thermodolia » Sat May 04, 2019 2:28 pm

Purpelia wrote:What ever it is about you americans need to get your act together and start forcing vaccinations on people on the pain of having their children taken away.

But that would be mean and undemocratic or something /s
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Postby Gormwood » Sat May 04, 2019 2:31 pm

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Purpelia wrote:What ever it is about you americans need to get your act together and start forcing vaccinations on people on the pain of having their children taken away.

But that would be mean and undemocratic or something /s

It's the same country where assholes actually sued states for the right to let their children spread disease.
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Postby Purpelia » Sat May 04, 2019 2:32 pm

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Purpelia wrote:What ever it is about you americans need to get your act together and start forcing vaccinations on people on the pain of having their children taken away.

But that would be mean and undemocratic or something /s

It's far less intrusive than a bunch of the stuff that you already (and frankly unjustly) take children away for. For once use that hideous disgusting custom for something useful.
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Postby Chernoslavia » Sat May 04, 2019 9:21 pm

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Chernoslavia wrote:And what fresh hell is this where people are being forcefully quarantined whether they have measles or not?

That's... That's what a quarantine is. You keep everyone out of the general population unless and until you are absolutely certain of who does and does not have the disease. This is SOP.


Yes I fucking know what quarantine is, I was in disbelief that it was implemented.
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Postby Chernoslavia » Sat May 04, 2019 9:22 pm

Dooom35796821595 wrote:
Loben wrote:What happened to “my body my choice”


It’s not their bodies, it’s their children their bodies. They were given vaccinations by their more responsible parents.


People are advocating for adults, people who are old enough to make their own decisions, to be forced at gun point to take vaccines.
What would things have been like if every security operative, when he went out at night to make an arrest, had been uncertain whether he would return alive? Or if during periods of mass arrests, as for example in Leningrad, when they arrested a quarter of the entire city, people had not simply sat in their lairs, paling with terror at every bang of the downstairs door and at every step on the staircase, but had understood they had nothing left to lose and had boldly set up in the downstairs hall an ambush of half a dozen people with axes, hammers, pokers, or whatever else was at hand? The Organs would quickly have suffered a shortage of officers and transport and, notwithstanding all of Stalin's thirst, the cursed machine would have ground to a halt!

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Postby Chernoslavia » Sat May 04, 2019 9:23 pm

Thermodolia wrote:
Purpelia wrote:What ever it is about you americans need to get your act together and start forcing vaccinations on people on the pain of having their children taken away.

But that would be mean and undemocratic or something /s


We're not a democracy anyways.
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Postby Chernoslavia » Sat May 04, 2019 9:23 pm

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Why? Why do the oh so important rights end when they upset you?


When they endanger public health they do. That is why we tell smokers where they can and cannot smoke.


But you can't tell them to stop smoking.
What would things have been like if every security operative, when he went out at night to make an arrest, had been uncertain whether he would return alive? Or if during periods of mass arrests, as for example in Leningrad, when they arrested a quarter of the entire city, people had not simply sat in their lairs, paling with terror at every bang of the downstairs door and at every step on the staircase, but had understood they had nothing left to lose and had boldly set up in the downstairs hall an ambush of half a dozen people with axes, hammers, pokers, or whatever else was at hand? The Organs would quickly have suffered a shortage of officers and transport and, notwithstanding all of Stalin's thirst, the cursed machine would have ground to a halt!

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Postby Chernoslavia » Sat May 04, 2019 9:30 pm

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1. Pointing guns at people and forcing them to have fluids pumped into them, you don't see a problem with that?
2. Because it's aweful, the medical services are lack luster and drives up the costs for even the most basic medicines.

1. If it's to prevent the resurgence of noted child-killers like polio? No.
2. Every single country with universal healthcare spends less than y'all do and the majority of "developed" nations with universal healthcare provide better overall care. Sit down.


1. Not surprised you're in favor of forcing your beliefs on others.
2. According to who? The stupid Commonwealth Fund? And reminder that we too have socialized healthcare.
What would things have been like if every security operative, when he went out at night to make an arrest, had been uncertain whether he would return alive? Or if during periods of mass arrests, as for example in Leningrad, when they arrested a quarter of the entire city, people had not simply sat in their lairs, paling with terror at every bang of the downstairs door and at every step on the staircase, but had understood they had nothing left to lose and had boldly set up in the downstairs hall an ambush of half a dozen people with axes, hammers, pokers, or whatever else was at hand? The Organs would quickly have suffered a shortage of officers and transport and, notwithstanding all of Stalin's thirst, the cursed machine would have ground to a halt!

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Postby Chernoslavia » Sat May 04, 2019 9:32 pm

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Greater vakolicci haven wrote:Yeah let's deny children an education because their parents never got them vaccinated.
I'm quite happy that I don't live in your world, since the only jab I've ever had was prior to removing a tooth.

I'd be much happier if you didn't live in my world, since I enjoy not playing "15th Century Plague Roulette".


And I'd be happier if you didn't live in mine, but I guess we all can't have what we want.
What would things have been like if every security operative, when he went out at night to make an arrest, had been uncertain whether he would return alive? Or if during periods of mass arrests, as for example in Leningrad, when they arrested a quarter of the entire city, people had not simply sat in their lairs, paling with terror at every bang of the downstairs door and at every step on the staircase, but had understood they had nothing left to lose and had boldly set up in the downstairs hall an ambush of half a dozen people with axes, hammers, pokers, or whatever else was at hand? The Organs would quickly have suffered a shortage of officers and transport and, notwithstanding all of Stalin's thirst, the cursed machine would have ground to a halt!

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Postby Chernoslavia » Sat May 04, 2019 9:34 pm

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1. So deny them from going to schools or government facilities. Pointing a gun to their heads and telling them to do so will only make you look bad especially if they don't even have measles. Also, restricting anyone from any human contact just because they haven't got vaxxed is also a human rights violation.

You do realize that mandatory vaccinations doesn’t mean a gun to your head right? Or are you just going to be overly dramatic per the usual?



You do realize that single payer healthcare isn’t the only form of universal healthcare right? Germany has one of the best healthcare systems in the world and it’s not single payer yet it’s universal


1. Don't lie, otherwise how will you enforce mandatory vaccinations unless you use armed force to make people get them?
2. Source please?
What would things have been like if every security operative, when he went out at night to make an arrest, had been uncertain whether he would return alive? Or if during periods of mass arrests, as for example in Leningrad, when they arrested a quarter of the entire city, people had not simply sat in their lairs, paling with terror at every bang of the downstairs door and at every step on the staircase, but had understood they had nothing left to lose and had boldly set up in the downstairs hall an ambush of half a dozen people with axes, hammers, pokers, or whatever else was at hand? The Organs would quickly have suffered a shortage of officers and transport and, notwithstanding all of Stalin's thirst, the cursed machine would have ground to a halt!

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Postby Rostavykhan » Sat May 04, 2019 9:36 pm

I guess you could say that it's a pretty measleable state of affairs, eh.

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Postby Indig0 » Sat May 04, 2019 9:39 pm

People vaccinated against measles can spread measles. It’s a live virus, which means it’s capable of giving the person measles. So even if 100% of people were vaccinated, there would still be measles outbreaks caused by the vaccine.
CA has one of the strictest vaccination laws. There are less unvaccinated people in CA than in other states which still allow philosophical and religious exemptions.
Measles used to be considered as common and harmless as the common cold in the 50s. It’s not a big deal.
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Postby Gormwood » Sat May 04, 2019 10:03 pm

Chernoslavia wrote:
Dooom35796821595 wrote:
It’s not their bodies, it’s their children their bodies. They were given vaccinations by their more responsible parents.


People are advocating for adults, people who are old enough to make their own decisions, to be forced at gun point to take vaccines.

News Flash: The adult antivaxxers are already vaccinated. It's their idiocy in refusing to have their children vaccinated for a variety of inane beliefs that is resulting the Measles Comeback Tour.
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Postby Gormwood » Sat May 04, 2019 10:05 pm

Chernoslavia wrote:1. Not surprised you're in favor of forcing your beliefs on others.

Public health and safety is now merely a "belief" like religion.
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Postby Chernoslavia » Sat May 04, 2019 10:06 pm

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Chernoslavia wrote:
People are advocating for adults, people who are old enough to make their own decisions, to be forced at gun point to take vaccines.

News Flash: The adult antivaxxers are already vaccinated. It's their idiocy in refusing to have their children vaccinated for a variety of inane beliefs that is resulting the Measles Comeback Tour.


And what makes you think all anti vaxxers are vaccinated?
What would things have been like if every security operative, when he went out at night to make an arrest, had been uncertain whether he would return alive? Or if during periods of mass arrests, as for example in Leningrad, when they arrested a quarter of the entire city, people had not simply sat in their lairs, paling with terror at every bang of the downstairs door and at every step on the staircase, but had understood they had nothing left to lose and had boldly set up in the downstairs hall an ambush of half a dozen people with axes, hammers, pokers, or whatever else was at hand? The Organs would quickly have suffered a shortage of officers and transport and, notwithstanding all of Stalin's thirst, the cursed machine would have ground to a halt!

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Postby Chernoslavia » Sat May 04, 2019 10:07 pm

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Chernoslavia wrote:1. Not surprised you're in favor of forcing your beliefs on others.

Public health and safety is now merely a "belief" like religion.


Not an argument.
What would things have been like if every security operative, when he went out at night to make an arrest, had been uncertain whether he would return alive? Or if during periods of mass arrests, as for example in Leningrad, when they arrested a quarter of the entire city, people had not simply sat in their lairs, paling with terror at every bang of the downstairs door and at every step on the staircase, but had understood they had nothing left to lose and had boldly set up in the downstairs hall an ambush of half a dozen people with axes, hammers, pokers, or whatever else was at hand? The Organs would quickly have suffered a shortage of officers and transport and, notwithstanding all of Stalin's thirst, the cursed machine would have ground to a halt!

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Postby Kowani » Sat May 04, 2019 10:15 pm

Chernoslavia wrote:
Gormwood wrote:News Flash: The adult antivaxxers are already vaccinated. It's their idiocy in refusing to have their children vaccinated for a variety of inane beliefs that is resulting the Measles Comeback Tour.


And what makes you think all anti vaxxers are vaccinated?

https://ourworldindata.org/grapher/the- ... -year-olds

It seems to be a rather large group, considering this is a worldwide scale.
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Postby Gormwood » Sat May 04, 2019 10:17 pm

Chernoslavia wrote:
Gormwood wrote:Public health and safety is now merely a "belief" like religion.


Not an argument.

Actually it is. You're the only one who think public health is optional.
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