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Support war on drugs
44
9%
Support rehabilitation
75
16%
Support war on black people
30
6%
End war on black people
67
14%
Support worker’s management
52
11%
Oppose worker’s management
23
5%
Support genetic modification
65
14%
Oppose genetic modification
20
4%
Support furries
29
6%
Oppose furries
74
15%
 
Total votes : 479

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Kowani
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Founded: Apr 01, 2018
Democratic Socialists

Postby Kowani » Sat Apr 27, 2019 8:02 am

Rezmaeristan wrote:Ya know what we need to do? Stop these drugs getting in.

BUILD.

THAT.

WALL.

(Ok it won't stop them all but it will cut the supply in half)

No it won’t.
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Thermodolia
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Civil Rights Lovefest

Postby Thermodolia » Sat Apr 27, 2019 8:14 am

Griemvarant wrote:In that case, though, he's not entirely wrong. The majority of slave ships were owned or co-owned by Jews, and the overwhelming majority of slave owners in the United States were Jewish. We shouldn't try to erase history or pass the blame, but we should learn from the mistakes of the past.

Ya got a source for that?
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Otira
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Posts: 344
Founded: Jun 25, 2010
Civil Rights Lovefest

Postby Otira » Sat Apr 27, 2019 8:35 am

Griemvarant wrote:In that case, though, he's not entirely wrong. The majority of slave ships were owned or co-owned by Jews, and the overwhelming majority of slave owners in the United States were Jewish. We shouldn't try to erase history or pass the blame, but we should learn from the mistakes of the past.

Yeah, that's not true. Considering there were more slave owners in the United States than there were Jews, you know. Your 4chan /pol/ memes don't hold up here.

inb4 you quote "Rodriguez 385"

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The South Falls
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Founded: Oct 18, 2017
Ex-Nation

Postby The South Falls » Sat Apr 27, 2019 8:38 am

If you're out here to defend the DPRK, then here's what imma say.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Prisons_in_North_Korea

200,000 people or more are interned in camps in North Korea, and that's all we know.
People are interned for merely speaking out against the regime. They are the government that most closely resembles the fascists you elect to denounce.
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The Xenopolis Confederation
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Posts: 9478
Founded: Aug 11, 2017
Anarchy

Postby The Xenopolis Confederation » Sat Apr 27, 2019 8:43 am

This is very hard to take seriously, so if you are serious, I would suggest stating your views in a more coherent, grounded manner. You make a lot of dubious claims in this, such as suggesting that most people would genetically modify themselves to become furries, which is just weird, mate.
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The South Falls
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Founded: Oct 18, 2017
Ex-Nation

Postby The South Falls » Sat Apr 27, 2019 8:44 am

The Xenopolis Confederation wrote:This is very hard to take seriously, so if you are serious, I would suggest stating your views in a more coherent, grounded manner. You make a lot of dubious claims in this, such as suggesting that most people would genetically modify themselves to become furries, which is just weird, mate.

Yea, bro, I don't need my kids to have a fucking tail... nah.
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Kragholm Free States
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Posts: 954
Founded: Mar 19, 2017
Capitalist Paradise

Postby Kragholm Free States » Sat Apr 27, 2019 8:47 am

Otira wrote:
Griemvarant wrote:In that case, though, he's not entirely wrong. The majority of slave ships were owned or co-owned by Jews, and the overwhelming majority of slave owners in the United States were Jewish. We shouldn't try to erase history or pass the blame, but we should learn from the mistakes of the past.

Yeah, that's not true. Considering there were more slave owners in the United States than there were Jews, you know. Your 4chan /pol/ memes don't hold up here.

inb4 you quote "Rodriguez 385"


The "most slavers were Jews" thing isn't a /pol/ meme, it's a Nation of Islam meme. The whole idea is grounded in Louis Farrakhan's deliberate misrepresentation of statistics in a number of his publications.
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Paddy O Fernature
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Founded: Sep 30, 2010
Inoffensive Centrist Democracy

Postby Paddy O Fernature » Sat Apr 27, 2019 8:50 am

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New Legland
Chargé d'Affaires
 
Posts: 439
Founded: Apr 21, 2017
Civil Rights Lovefest

Postby New Legland » Sat Apr 27, 2019 10:00 am

"[insert literally anything here] and the inevitability of communism"

boy, you're an optimist
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Umpus
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Posts: 163
Founded: Feb 22, 2019
Ex-Nation

Postby Umpus » Sat Apr 27, 2019 10:06 am

the niceist of the nice
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Socialist Workers Combine
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Posts: 590
Founded: Apr 16, 2019
Ex-Nation

Postby Socialist Workers Combine » Sat Apr 27, 2019 10:24 am

The South Falls wrote:200,000 people or more are interned in camps in North Korea, and that's all we know.

How many are interned in US prisons

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Khataiy
Minister
 
Posts: 2947
Founded: Apr 22, 2018
Ex-Nation

Postby Khataiy » Sat Apr 27, 2019 10:25 am

The war on drugs needs to be harsher.

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Socialist Workers Combine
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Posts: 590
Founded: Apr 16, 2019
Ex-Nation

Postby Socialist Workers Combine » Sat Apr 27, 2019 10:26 am

Khataiy wrote:The war on drugs needs to be harsher.

Why, weed cures cancer.

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Khataiy
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Posts: 2947
Founded: Apr 22, 2018
Ex-Nation

Postby Khataiy » Sat Apr 27, 2019 10:28 am

Socialist Workers Combine wrote:
Khataiy wrote:The war on drugs needs to be harsher.

Why, weed cures cancer.

Weed also creates intoxicated drivers and dumbs down the population, I dont care if it cures cancer or is the miracle drug it is wrong and should be swiftly uprooted off the streets.

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LiberNovusAmericae
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Posts: 6942
Founded: Mar 10, 2018
Ex-Nation

Postby LiberNovusAmericae » Sat Apr 27, 2019 10:29 am

I support ending the war on drugs. With that being said, it can be done without changing the economic system. This issue won't lead to communism; the belief that it will is stupid.

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LiberNovusAmericae
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Founded: Mar 10, 2018
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Postby LiberNovusAmericae » Sat Apr 27, 2019 10:31 am

Socialist Workers Combine wrote:
The South Falls wrote:200,000 people or more are interned in camps in North Korea, and that's all we know.

How many are interned in US prisons

Not even a comparable situation. Our prisons aren't starving people to death, nor do they have Nazi style horror.

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Bienenhalde
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Posts: 6389
Founded: Mar 11, 2017
Authoritarian Democracy

Postby Bienenhalde » Sat Apr 27, 2019 10:33 am

LiberNovusAmericae wrote:I support ending the war on drugs. With that being said, it can be done without changing the economic system. This issue won't lead to communism; the belief that it will is stupid.


Better idea: adopt socialism, continue war on drugs. :^)

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Kragholm Free States
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Posts: 954
Founded: Mar 19, 2017
Capitalist Paradise

Postby Kragholm Free States » Sat Apr 27, 2019 10:33 am

LiberNovusAmericae wrote:I support ending the war on drugs. With that being said, it can be done without changing the economic system. This issue won't lead to communism; the belief that it will is stupid.


Don't be silly, if we end the war on drugs the genetically modified black North Korean furries will travel back in time to implant the computerised brain of Stalin into Richard Nixon.
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Kragholm Free States
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Founded: Mar 19, 2017
Capitalist Paradise

Postby Kragholm Free States » Sat Apr 27, 2019 10:34 am

Bienenhalde wrote:
LiberNovusAmericae wrote:I support ending the war on drugs. With that being said, it can be done without changing the economic system. This issue won't lead to communism; the belief that it will is stupid.


Better idea: adopt socialism, continue war on drugs. :^)


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LiberNovusAmericae
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Founded: Mar 10, 2018
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Postby LiberNovusAmericae » Sat Apr 27, 2019 10:37 am

Bienenhalde wrote:
LiberNovusAmericae wrote:I support ending the war on drugs. With that being said, it can be done without changing the economic system. This issue won't lead to communism; the belief that it will is stupid.


Better idea: adopt socialism, continue war on drugs. :^)

If you want more powerful drug gangs, then continue the drug war. Push mild substances like weed further underground, so the gangs can monopolize.

If you want an inefficient economic system as well, then adopt socialism.

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Socialist Workers Combine
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Founded: Apr 16, 2019
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Postby Socialist Workers Combine » Sat Apr 27, 2019 10:38 am

LiberNovusAmericae wrote:If you want an inefficient economic system as well, then adopt socialism.

It’s been shown cooperatives work better.

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Khataiy
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Founded: Apr 22, 2018
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Postby Khataiy » Sat Apr 27, 2019 10:39 am

Socialist Workers Combine wrote:
LiberNovusAmericae wrote:If you want an inefficient economic system as well, then adopt socialism.

It’s been shown cooperatives work better.

Why don't you move to Cuba or North Korea, or possibly China?

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Socialist Workers Combine
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Founded: Apr 16, 2019
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Postby Socialist Workers Combine » Sat Apr 27, 2019 10:41 am

Khataiy wrote:Why don't you move to Cuba or North Korea, or possibly China?

I was going to visit Arizona because I have a potential partner that lives there.

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Khataiy
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Founded: Apr 22, 2018
Ex-Nation

Postby Khataiy » Sat Apr 27, 2019 10:45 am

Socialist Workers Combine wrote:
Khataiy wrote:Why don't you move to Cuba or North Korea, or possibly China?

I was going to visit Arizona because I have a potential partner that lives there.

Bring them with you then to one of the glorious resistance socialist countries where everyone is equal and free. I've heard of American defecting to the DPRK.

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Socialist Workers Combine
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Postby Socialist Workers Combine » Sat Apr 27, 2019 10:50 am

Khataiy wrote:I was going to visit Arizona because I have a potential partner that lives there.

Bring them with you then to one of the glorious resistance socialist countries where everyone is equal and free. I've heard of American defecting to the DPRK.[/quote]
They prefer to live near family.

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