Free association and the inevitability of Communism

[Kowani]

Not nearly as much as you seem to think they are.

Never gonna give you up, never gonna let you down.

…That’s nice.

[Petrolheadia]

Not nearly as much as you seem to think they are.

Never gonna give you up, never gonna let you down.

https://www.google.com/url?sa=t&source= ... UdnlWo04cv

[Internationalist Bastard]

This is an unbiased and reasonable op

When has NSG ever made those?

We get them now and then

[Kowani]

When has NSG ever made those?

We get them now and then

Yeah, on the election megathreads. That’s about it.

[Petrolheadia]

And about the poll:

[Internationalist Bastard]

Anyway more to the point
I’m pro trade unions
This is lazy communist thinking. Like it’s not even well written communism

[Socialist Workers Combine]

Anyway more to the point
I’m pro trade unions
This is lazy communist thinking. Like it’s not even well written communism

Thank you for your well written and comprehensive critique, I understand your point of view much better now.

[LiberNovusAmericae]

I’m getting real tired of these “inevitability of communism” threads

Agreed, and the logic is faulty to say the least.

[Badb Catha]

Why do you believe Communism is "inevitable"?

[Socialist Workers Combine]

Why do you believe Communism is "inevitable"?

It amuses me to make it the title of the thread.

[Kanadorika]

Modern Communists would fail to institute communism even more than their Marxist-Leninist precursors 100 years ago. When your focus has shifted away from the proletariat into various minority groups such as disabled gay trans people, you've basically alienated the working class and are going to suffer from internal conflict.

Communism requires an industrious society with internal cohesion. If you get in the way of the workers and peasants revolution by putting yourself in an entirely different category, you are seen as an obstacle.

[Socialist Workers Combine]

Modern Communists would fail to institute communism even more than their Marxist-Leninist precursors 100 years ago. When your focus has shifted away from the proletariat into various minority groups such as disabled gay trans people, you've basically alienated the working class and are going to suffer from internal conflict.

That’s liberals, Communists are accepting of the LGBT, but they are mostly unmentioned, for instance, in the International Marxist Tendency. The “Party for Socialism and Liberation” tries to works with all kinds of groups.

[Esheaun Stroakuss]

Why is communism inevitable? And what is "free association"? Are private interests racist?

[The Feecktopian USSR]

No one can avoid communism... Only communism avoids you!

[Bear Stearns]

What do you do when the proletarians themselves are the "racists"?

[Esheaun Stroakuss]

What do you do when the proletarians themselves are the "racists"?

Welp, best send to gulag.

[Bear Stearns]

What do you do when the proletarians themselves are the "racists"?

Welp, best send to gulag.

Ah yes, murder. Of course.

[Dumb Ideologies]

What do you do when the proletarians themselves are the "racists"?

Write very long sentences involving the words "ideology", "imperialism" and "false consciousness", I imagine.

[Esheaun Stroakuss]

What do you do when the proletarians themselves are the "racists"?

Write very long sentences involving the words "ideology", "imperialism" and "false consciousness", I imagine.

Or they could admit privilege and commit Seppuku

[The Huskar Social Union]

Cheese Doritos and the inevitability of communism


Every time you suck that delicious orange powder off of your fingers after finishing a pack of cheese doritos Marx himself appears and stabs a capitalist.

[Esheaun Stroakuss]

Cheese Doritos and the inevitability of communism


Every time you suck that delicious orange powder off of your fingers after finishing a pack of cheese doritos Marx himself appears and stabs a capitalist.

I'm pissing myself with laughter.

[Socialist Workers Combine]

What do you do when the proletarians themselves are the "racists"?

The proletariat generally aren’t as racist, but I suppose you educate them.

[USS Monitor]

I used to sell art on the street. Nazis were a little weird, but they weren't disruptive and did not scare other customers away.

One guy that walked around shirtless and his whole torso was covered with tattoos, mostly skulls and swastikas? I wouldn't want to get in an argument with him at the bar, but when he was strolling around the street at 1 in the afternoon, he was harmless. He actually said he felt a little dumb about the swastikas, but people wouldn't know that if they jumped to conclusions as soon as they saw him.

It's legal to tell someone to put a shirt on before they enter your private property, or to have standards of behavior like, "You can't use open mic night to read from Mein Kampf."

But if a Nazi is following the same rules as everyone else, there is really no reason not to serve them.

[Xemnarius]

What do you do when the proletarians themselves are the "racists"?

The proletariat generally aren’t as racist, but I suppose you educate them.

In my experience (in North New Jersey), the blue collar (and less educated) people tend to be much more racist than the white collar or higher people.

In general, I find that racism is inversely coorelated with education, and with College being so expensive in here in the US, those people from blue collar families usually stay racist.

[Autonomous Cleaner Bot Cleaners]

But if a Nazi is following the same rules as everyone else, there is really no reason not to serve them.

Sure there is: they're a Nazi.

Whatever their reasons and motivations (and fully acknowledging that not everyone with swastika tattoos is an irredeemable loss; example: https://www.splcenter.org/news/2011/06/ ... ocumentary), someone with those sorts of tattoos is making a clear statement that they hate me and intend to do me harm. Or, at least that they support such a cause. I have a hard time understanding why I'm obligated to have anything to do with such a person.

The real question is whether "political affiliation" is a legally protected class. In my jurisdiction (the US), it is not at a Federal level, but it is for employment in my state. I'm still googling about refusing customers, but I'd be fully ok with a no Nazis business. I'm not sure that I'm ethically, or should be legally, obligated to associate with anyone who openly declares the goal of eradicating me in turn.

(And just to preempt whoever is going to insist: I've yet to encounter any LGBT people, or black people, or women, or disabled who want to herd me into concentration camp gas Chambers. That comparison is nonsensical beyond description. And those protected classes exist precisely because Nazis to begin with.)