Explosions at churches and hotels in Sri Lanka

[Krasland]

koran states that Christians are their enemies and infidels and they must be destroyed.

Eehem, no. The Koran in fact states the opposite - Christians and jews are people of the Book. Jesus is even a prophet in Islam. The enemies are pagans.

Not that it apparantly matters, since it seems this was an attack perfomed by muslims against christians and western tourists.

I thought muslims' enemy is satan, and only go to war only if they (muslims) are being attacked

[Diarcesia]

Eehem, no. The Koran in fact states the opposite - Christians and jews are people of the Book. Jesus is even a prophet in Islam. The enemies are pagans.

Not that it apparantly matters, since it seems this was an attack perfomed by muslims against christians and western tourists.

I thought muslims' enemy is satan, and only go to war only if they (muslims) are being attacked

The terrorists do think the West is literally Satan.

[El-Amin Caliphate]

Not to mention, he's ignoring several other Quranic verses and hadith that go contrary to this man's claim.

I'm talking about historical fact, not religious beliefs. I know much about the former if you are interested in learning.

A lot of your posts talk about "Qur'an teaches x" so you actually were talking about the religion.

[Diarcesia]

I'm talking about historical fact, not religious beliefs. I know much about the former if you are interested in learning.

A lot of your posts talk about "Qur'an teaches x" so you actually were talking about the religion.

There's the Qur'an teaching X, and then there's the historical fact on how the Muslims living in year Y interpret and practice X.

You are free to read the Quran if you want context. Islam has it's origins in conversion at knifepoint. Thus the book pushes violence as a part of the faith. Deny it all you want but it has directly led to the violence we now see.

I assume you mean the Caliphate's original expansion from the 600s to 1000? The 'knifepoint' part is political domination. If you want to keep your Judaism and Christianity there, you have to pay up, but you aren't forced to be a Muslim like how the Romans forced Christians to renounce Jesus back when they were persecuting the latter.

[El-Amin Caliphate]

A lot of your posts talk about "Qur'an teaches x" so you actually were talking about the religion.

There's the Qur'an teaching X, and then there's the historical fact on how the Muslims living in year Y interpret and practice X.

You are free to read the Quran if you want context. Islam has it's origins in conversion at knifepoint. Thus the book pushes violence as a part of the faith. Deny it all you want but it has directly led to the violence we now see.

I assume you mean the Caliphate's original expansion from the 600s to 1000? The 'knifepoint' part is political domination. If you want to keep your Judaism and Christianity there, you have to pay up, but you aren't forced to be a Muslim like how the Romans forced Christians to renounce Jesus back when they were persecuting the latter.

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[Farnhamia]

A lot of your posts talk about "Qur'an teaches x" so you actually were talking about the religion.

There's the Qur'an teaching X, and then there's the historical fact on how the Muslims living in year Y interpret and practice X.

You are free to read the Quran if you want context. Islam has it's origins in conversion at knifepoint. Thus the book pushes violence as a part of the faith. Deny it all you want but it has directly led to the violence we now see.

I assume you mean the Caliphate's original expansion from the 600s to 1000? The 'knifepoint' part is political domination. If you want to keep your Judaism and Christianity there, you have to pay up, but you aren't forced to be a Muslim like how the Romans forced Christians to renounce Jesus back when they were persecuting the latter.

Well ... accused Christians were asked if they were, indeed, Christians. If the answered no, they were asked to sacrifice to the gods and swear by the emperor's genius. If they answered yes, they were asked to recant. If they refused to sacrifice or recant, they were punished. Persecutions were not uniform over the whole empire, however, and were conducted very much at the whim of the local populace and governors. Then, too, Christians often volunteered for martyrdom. Antoninus Pius Augustus' grandfather, Arrius Antoninus, when governing Asia, ran into such a group and told them, "If you want to die, you wretches, you can use ropes or precipices."

But I digress.

[Duhon]

And now, for more fallout from this fucking mess out of so fucking many, we have this from the BBC:

Sri Lanka has imposed a night-time curfew across the country amid an upsurge in anti-Muslim violence.

Mosques and Muslim-owned shops have been targeted and local police say one man has been killed.

In several towns, police fired into the air and used tear gas to disperse hundreds of rioters.

Tensions have been high since Islamist militants attacked churches and hotels on Easter Sunday, killing more than 250 people.

Prime Minister Ranil Wickremesinghe has appealed for calm saying the current unrest was hampering the investigation into last month's attacks in the early hours of Monday.

In the north-western town of Kiniyama, windows and doors to a mosque were smashed and copies of the Koran thrown on the floor.

The attack was triggered by a group of people demanding a search of the building after soldiers inspected a lake nearby looking for weapons, Reuters news agency reports.

In the Catholic-majority town of Chilaw, Muslim-owned shops and mosques were attacked after a dispute that started on Facebook, police said.

A 38-year-old Muslim businessman identified as the author of the post that sparked the violence was arrested.

A man died from stab wounds after a mob attacked his business in Puttalam District, also in Sri Lanka's north-west.

Officials have blocked some social media platforms and messaging apps, including Facebook and Whatsapp, in an attempt to curb the violence.

"I appeal to all citizens to remain calm and not be swayed by false information. Security forces are working tirelessly to apprehend terrorists and ensure the security of the country," the prime minister said on Twitter, which has not been blocked.

Incidents were also reported in the town of Hettipola, where at least three shops were reportedly torched.

Muslims make up nearly 10% of Sri Lanka's 22 million people, who are predominantly Sinhalese Buddhists.

[Bombadil]

And now, for more fallout from this fucking mess out of so fucking many, we have this from the BBC:

Sri Lanka has imposed a night-time curfew across the country amid an upsurge in anti-Muslim violence.

Mosques and Muslim-owned shops have been targeted and local police say one man has been killed.

In several towns, police fired into the air and used tear gas to disperse hundreds of rioters.

Tensions have been high since Islamist militants attacked churches and hotels on Easter Sunday, killing more than 250 people.

Prime Minister Ranil Wickremesinghe has appealed for calm saying the current unrest was hampering the investigation into last month's attacks in the early hours of Monday.

In the north-western town of Kiniyama, windows and doors to a mosque were smashed and copies of the Koran thrown on the floor.

The attack was triggered by a group of people demanding a search of the building after soldiers inspected a lake nearby looking for weapons, Reuters news agency reports.

In the Catholic-majority town of Chilaw, Muslim-owned shops and mosques were attacked after a dispute that started on Facebook, police said.

A 38-year-old Muslim businessman identified as the author of the post that sparked the violence was arrested.

A man died from stab wounds after a mob attacked his business in Puttalam District, also in Sri Lanka's north-west.

Officials have blocked some social media platforms and messaging apps, including Facebook and Whatsapp, in an attempt to curb the violence.

"I appeal to all citizens to remain calm and not be swayed by false information. Security forces are working tirelessly to apprehend terrorists and ensure the security of the country," the prime minister said on Twitter, which has not been blocked.

Incidents were also reported in the town of Hettipola, where at least three shops were reportedly torched.

Muslims make up nearly 10% of Sri Lanka's 22 million people, who are predominantly Sinhalese Buddhists.

More often than not this is the aftermath and generally it's not reported on - I noted it in my first post on this subject.. viewtopic.php?p=35610867#p35610867

[An Alan Smithee Nation]

More often than not this is the aftermath and generally it's not reported on - I noted it in my first post on this subject.. viewtopic.php?p=35610867#p35610867

The tragedy is that it benefits the terrorists, by forcing peaceful Muslims to make a choice between siding with the terrorist or with people they feel threatened by. Polarisation always helps extremists.

[Duhon]

More often than not this is the aftermath and generally it's not reported on - I noted it in my first post on this subject.. viewtopic.php?p=35610867#p35610867

The tragedy is that it benefits the terrorists, by forcing peaceful Muslims to make a choice between siding with the terrorist or with people they feel threatened by. Polarisation always helps extremists.

The fear is now they'll be scared enough and/or angry enough to play their fucked-up part, even though they may see this intent from a hundred days away.

[Sanctum and Ultima]

If the forums existed in the '90s, Islamophobic bastards would spew out words like "MILOSEVIC DID NOTHING WRONG!" or some other male cattle defecation.

[The Alma Mater]

The tragedy is that it benefits the terrorists, by forcing peaceful Muslims to make a choice between siding with the terrorist or with people they feel threatened by. Polarisation always helps extremists.

The fear is now they'll be scared enough and/or angry enough to play their fucked-up part, even though they may see this intent from a hundred days away.

They already do - last week police found a stash of bombs and weapons buried in the garden behind a mosque.

[Duhon]

The fear is now they'll be scared enough and/or angry enough to play their fucked-up part, even though they may see this intent from a hundred days away.

They already do - last week police found a stash of bombs and weapons buried in the garden behind a mosque.

I kind ot doubt that stash got there in the weeks following the attacks.