Explosions at churches and hotels in Sri Lanka

[Cetacea]

Guess what’s more responsible for Islamic Terrorism? Western interventionism.

I will be certain to tell the people of Sri Lanka they are a western country that intervened too much.

well Sri Lanka did have a little incident involving British not wanting the French to get all the Kandy

[Ohtamntla]

I believe the West did colonize the East too much. Islamic terrorism is horrible! I don't like it when people die!

[Zagrepcanin]

Islamic Terrorismus would not be something relevant if white people didn't committed colonialism and invaded their countries

So when the forces of Islam decided to invade and occupy huge swathes of Asia, Africa, and Iberia in the early medieval period, and later on to launch campaigns of conquest into Southern and Eastern Europe to reach as far as Vienna, that was all retaliation for white colonialism, was it? Before white colonialism even existed? Your desperation to pin the blame for Islamic violence on anything but Islam is frankly delusional.

Islam is native to Asia and Africa, how can possible "invade" that places?

As for Europe, well, white Christians started first actually. The Crusaders happened long before Vienna (they were the proto-colonialist wars) so the Ottomans were forced to spread as a retaliation. They were aware that the West might attack them at every moment.

Instead of being racist we should be happy and feel blessed for Muslims making our society more diverse and tolerant. Without minorities our society would be boring

[Bezkoshtovnya]

So when the forces of Islam decided to invade and occupy huge swathes of Asia, Africa, and Iberia in the early medieval period, and later on to launch campaigns of conquest into Southern and Eastern Europe to reach as far as Vienna, that was all retaliation for white colonialism, was it? Before white colonialism even existed? Your desperation to pin the blame for Islamic violence on anything but Islam is frankly delusional.

Islam is native to Asia and Africa, how can possible "invade" that place?

As for Europe yes white Christians started first. The Crusaders happened long before Vienna so the Ottomans were forced to spread as a retaliation

Technically that isnt true. Islamic invasions of Europe happened long before the crusades, to about the 8th century. It started with the invasions of Iberia and made it as far as southern France until the advances were stopped at the Battle of Tours.

[The Grims]

So when the forces of Islam decided to invade and occupy huge swathes of Asia, Africa, and Iberia in the early medieval period, and later on to launch campaigns of conquest into Southern and Eastern Europe to reach as far as Vienna, that was all retaliation for white colonialism, was it? Before white colonialism even existed? Your desperation to pin the blame for Islamic violence on anything but Islam is frankly delusional.

Islam is native to Asia and Africa, how can possible "invade" that place?

The same can be said about christianity.

[Khasab]

Inna Lillahi wa inna ilayhi raji'un

[Loben]

So when the forces of Islam decided to invade and occupy huge swathes of Asia, Africa, and Iberia in the early medieval period, and later on to launch campaigns of conquest into Southern and Eastern Europe to reach as far as Vienna, that was all retaliation for white colonialism, was it? Before white colonialism even existed? Your desperation to pin the blame for Islamic violence on anything but Islam is frankly delusional.

Islam is native to Asia and Africa, how can possible "invade" that places?

As for Europe, well, white Christians started first actually. The Crusaders happened long before Vienna (they were the proto-colonialist wara) so the Ottomans were forced to spread as a retaliation. They were aware that the West might attack them at every moment.

Instead of being racist we should be happy and feel blessed for Muslims making our society more diverse and tolerant. Without minorities our society would be boring

What the fuck am I reading.

[Zagrepcanin]

Technically that isnt true. Islamic invasions of Europe happened long before the crusades, to about the 8th century. It started with the invasions of Iberia and made it as far as southern France until the advances were stopped at the Battle of Tours.

Actually Spain was ruled by Visigoths who were themself invaders. You could argue the Ummayads liberated the Spanish people from visigothic opressors. Muslims were also a high developed civilisation and brought religious tolerance to Spain

[Zagrepcanin]

Islam is native to Asia and Africa, how can possible "invade" that place?

The same can be said about christianity.

Are you sure? Besides Ethiopia christianity was brought to Africa and Asia as part of forced conversion by missionaries

[Bezkoshtovnya]

Technically that isnt true. Islamic invasions of Europe happened long before the crusades, to about the 8th century. It started with the invasions of Iberia and made it as far as southern France until the advances were stopped at the Battle of Tours.

Actually Spain was ruled by Visigoths who were themself invaders. You could argue the Ummayads liberated the Spanish people from visigothic opressors. Muslims were also a high developed civilisation and brought religious tolerance to Spain

Who invaded Roman Iberia, who were themselves invaders that took it from the celtiberians. This does not change the fact that your original claim was that there was never any invasion of Europe by Muslims until after the crusades and it was solely retaliatory. I'm also pretty sure that liberation from Visigothic oppression (which....wasnt the case at all) was not the goal of the invasion of Iberia. I dont agree with the statements that Islam is some ultra violent force or anything, but I also dont support your polar opposite and disingenuous claims.

[Bezkoshtovnya]

The same can be said about christianity.

Are you sure? Besides Ethiopia christianity was brought to Africa and Asia as part of forced conversion by missionaries

Just as the largely Christian and Semitic Pagan middle east was forcibly converted in the original conquests by Mohammed. Once again, you are being entirely disingenuous and black and white in your portrayal of Islam vs Christianity.

Regardless this is not the IDT and this discussion really has no place in the thread regarding the Sri Lankan attacks.

[Zagrepcanin]

Who invaded Roman Iberia, who were themselves invaders that took it from the celtiberians. This does not change the fact that your original claim was that there was never any invasion of Europe by Muslims until after the crusades and it was solely retaliatory. I'm also pretty sure that liberation from Visigothic oppression (which....wasnt the case at all) was not the goal of the invasion of Iberia. I dont agree with the statements that Islam is some ultra violent force or anything, but I also dont support your polar opposite and disingenuous claims.

My original claim was that Christians provoked Muslims and started the whole conflict which is normal considering that the white Christian civilisation was in the Middle Ages. I admit I totally forgot on the Umayyads. Still does not validated my point.

[Bezkoshtovnya]

Who invaded Roman Iberia, who were themselves invaders that took it from the celtiberians. This does not change the fact that your original claim was that there was never any invasion of Europe by Muslims until after the crusades and it was solely retaliatory. I'm also pretty sure that liberation from Visigothic oppression (which....wasnt the case at all) was not the goal of the invasion of Iberia. I dont agree with the statements that Islam is some ultra violent force or anything, but I also dont support your polar opposite and disingenuous claims.

My original claim was that Christians provoked Muslims and started the whole conflict which is normal considering that the white Christian civilisation was in the Middle Ages. I admit I totally forgot on the Umayyads. Still does not validated my point.

It actually entirely invalidates your point, seeing as how it was not the way you present it as at all, and in fact the first provocation came from the Umayyad invasion of Europe centuries before the crusades, which you said was the original provocation. As I said though, this is not the thread to discuss this.

[Phoenicaea]

^ historically, jihad was preceding to crusades. formally, first jihad was conquer of christian iberia.

as a substantial fact instead, first invasion of a roman held people was arab invasion (islamic, even if not jihadi) of middle east from the byzantine rule.

first sanctionated crusade was later, against southern christian heretics in southern france, before the christian reconquista (which was not a great war, rather a saga of local wars).

the first substantial crusade instead, was the fourth (if i say well, can t swear on it) statedly against islam, it had been substantially a crusade against orthodox scismatics.

most succesfull and bloody islamic invasion in history was not a jihad, as the turkish conquerors of bizantyne anatolia converted, to islam, after the invasion.

the more bloody and violent crusade, if taken as a single, perhaps, was the christian invasion of pagan arian eastern europe and noric baltic and scandinavia.

most tragic wave of invasion for christians, namely romans, was barbaric invasio of course, most of them then converted and their descendants became the christian rules of europe.

most tragic invasion of muslim history was obviously mongol invasion, the khan then converted to islam after. christian's hopes to ally them agaist said islam was so never signed.

[The Derpy Democratic Republic Of Herp]

Have they arrested those responsible yet?

[An Alan Smithee Nation]

Have they arrested those responsible yet?

No, they have identified all but one of the suicide bombers.

[Skylus]

https://www.wtvy.com/content/news/508885711.html

now near 300 deaths

[The Derpy Democratic Republic Of Herp]

Have they arrested those responsible yet?

No, they have identified all but one of the suicide bombers.

Oh, well hopefully we will find out what terrorable group was behind this.

[The Grims]

The same can be said about christianity.

Are you sure? Besides Ethiopia christianity was brought to Africa and Asia as part of forced conversion by missionaries

Yes, I am quite certain christianity originated in the middle east. Hence why Jesus is a prophet in Islam.

[Bear Stearns]

So when the forces of Islam decided to invade and occupy huge swathes of Asia, Africa, and Iberia in the early medieval period, and later on to launch campaigns of conquest into Southern and Eastern Europe to reach as far as Vienna, that was all retaliation for white colonialism, was it? Before white colonialism even existed? Your desperation to pin the blame for Islamic violence on anything but Islam is frankly delusional.

Islam is native to Asia and Africa, how can possible "invade" that places?

As for Europe, well, white Christians started first actually. The Crusaders happened long before Vienna (they were the proto-colonialist wars) so the Ottomans were forced to spread as a retaliation. They were aware that the West might attack them at every moment.

Instead of being racist we should be happy and feel blessed for Muslims making our society more diverse and tolerant. Without minorities our society would be boring

What? The Crusades were partially in response to pre-Ottoman Islamic conquests that were already going on.

But yeah, we should thank the superior Muslims for blessing us with their presence, because without them we'd just be so gosh darn boring.

[Jolthig]

Islam is native to Asia and Africa, how can possible "invade" that places?

As for Europe, well, white Christians started first actually. The Crusaders happened long before Vienna (they were the proto-colonialist wars) so the Ottomans were forced to spread as a retaliation. They were aware that the West might attack them at every moment.

Instead of being racist we should be happy and feel blessed for Muslims making our society more diverse and tolerant. Without minorities our society would be boring

What? The Crusades were partially in response to pre-Ottoman Islamic conquests that were already going on.

But yeah, we should thank the superior Muslims for blessing us with their presence, because without them we'd just be so gosh darn boring.

Granted, yeah, both sides had their crimes, but the Christians did some pretty messed up stuff when they went in, and conquered Jerusalem. Heck, they even slaughtered local Armenian Christians in the area. Then, of course Jews.

[El-Amin Caliphate]

Are you sure? Besides Ethiopia christianity was brought to Africa and Asia as part of forced conversion by missionaries

Yes, I am quite certain christianity originated in the middle east. Hence why Jesus is a prophet in Islam.

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[Australian rePublic]

One of the bombers was educated in Melbourne. Where's Waleed Aly now?

[Vassenor]

Sri Lanka toll revised down by 'about 100'

Official figures stand at "about 253".

[Unstoppable Empire of Doom]

>tfw you purposefully ignore that it itself says 'no compulsion in religion'

Not to mention, he's ignoring several other Quranic verses and hadith that go contrary to this man's claim.

I'm talking about historical fact, not religious beliefs. I know much about the former if you are interested in learning.