Explosions at churches and hotels in Sri Lanka

[Astoriya]

By carrying out these horrific actions, they are not "following the advice of their holy book", and more accurately have their heads up their arses, politely speaking - unless you can bring out some sources.

I source the Quran.

Kill them wherever you find them. Fight them until there is no more unbelief and worship is for Allah alone (Quran 2:191-193).

...without context, I'm sure.

[Oldenfranck]

Thank you to the mods here, on another forum I am on, people spewing Islamophobic hate are allowed to gallop around freely. You guys really keep things under control here, and I think us muslims of NS should take a second to appreciate the admin crew doing things well.

[Vassenor]

I source the Quran.

Kill them wherever you find them. Fight them until there is no more unbelief and worship is for Allah alone (Quran 2:191-193).

...without context, I'm sure.

Most quotes from the Quran are intentionally devoid of context.

[Esheaun Stroakuss]

This is disgusting.

[Astoriya]

...without context, I'm sure.

Most quotes from the Quran are intentionally devoid of context.

That's why I'm sceptical on their "quotes" - sure, it may sound blood-curdling when taken out of context; not so much when taken in the original context.

Edit: I do want to say that 99% Muslims are enlightened enough to know but this is not applicable to the modern era. Only people with heads truly up their asses would actually do these things. so in that we are in agreement however their holy book does indeed say these things repeatedly. By some counts murdering unbelievers is written in the Quran over a hundred times.

Probably, but I wouldn't say repeatedly (see above)

[The Alma Mater]

How many more times will Muslims follow the advice of their own holy book to 'kill the unbelievers wherever they find them' before you acknowledge it as a problem, and stop desperately trying to make excuses and blame everyone except Muslims?

By carrying out these horrific actions, they are not "following the advice of their holy book", and more accurately have their heads up their arses, politely speaking - unless you can bring out some sources.

As I mentioned in the IDT (where this conversation belongs) - that means nothing if the world sees it like Kragholm Free States does.
And sofar the world really does not seem to like muslims and to be all to willing to assume the worst. From China where muslims are "re-educated" to Europe where governments are banning burqas and populist anti-muslim parties are becoming huge to Sri Lanka where Buddhists destoy muslim villages etc. etc.

Time to make some friends. Quickly.

[Vassenor]

Most quotes from the Quran are intentionally devoid of context.

That's why I'm sceptical on their "quotes" - sure, it may sound blood-curdling when taken out of context; not so much when taken in the original context.

Edit: I do want to say that 99% Muslims are enlightened enough to know but this is not applicable to the modern era. Only people with heads truly up their asses would actually do these things. so in that we are in agreement however their holy book does indeed say these things repeatedly. By some counts murdering unbelievers is written in the Quran over a hundred times.

Probably, but I wouldn't say repeatedly (see above)

Like the quote in question specifically refers to removing an occupying force from Mecca and nothing more.

[Shanhwa]

By carrying out these horrific actions, they are not "following the advice of their holy book", and more accurately have their heads up their arses, politely speaking - unless you can bring out some sources.

As I mentioned in the IDT (where this conversation belongs) - that means nothing if the world sees it like Kragholm Free States does.
And sofar the world really does not seem to like muslims and to be all to willing to assume the worst. From China where muslims are "re-educated" to Europe where governments are banning burqas and populist anti-muslim parties are becoming huge to Sri Lanka where Buddhists destoy muslim villages etc. etc.

Time to make some friends. Quickly.

The Buddhists attacking Muslim villages, though I’m not saying it’s okay, are rooted in centuries of conflict back and forth between the two groups. They hate each other.

[Marxist Germany]

That's why I'm sceptical on their "quotes" - sure, it may sound blood-curdling when taken out of context; not so much when taken in the original context.

Probably, but I wouldn't say repeatedly (see above)

Like the quote in question specifically refers to removing an occupying force from Mecca and nothing more.

Why wouldn't allah just say mecca?

[Esheaun Stroakuss]

As I mentioned in the IDT (where this conversation belongs) - that means nothing if the world sees it like Kragholm Free States does.
And sofar the world really does not seem to like muslims and to be all to willing to assume the worst. From China where muslims are "re-educated" to Europe where governments are banning burqas and populist anti-muslim parties are becoming huge to Sri Lanka where Buddhists destoy muslim villages etc. etc.

Time to make some friends. Quickly.

The Buddhists attacking Muslim villages, though I’m not saying it’s okay, are rooted in centuries of conflict back and forth between the two groups. They hate each other.

TIL that Buddhists attack people despite the stereotype that they are peaceful and calm and stuff.

[Astoriya]

Why wouldn't allah just say mecca?

He referred to it, when you know the context

TIL that Buddhists attack people despite the stereotype that they are peaceful and calm and stuff.

Look no further than these.

[Bear Stearns]

Well, what about the massacres in Sri Lanka, honey? Doesn't that affect us too? Do you know anything about Sri Lanka? How, like, the Sikhs are killing tons of Israelis over there?

[Unstoppable Empire of Doom]

You are free to read the Quran if you want context. Islam has it's origins in conversion at knifepoint. Thus the book pushes violence as a part of the faith. Deny it all you want but it has directly led to the violence we now see.

[Unstoppable Empire of Doom]

OH so it is different because Muhammad said Allah told him to murder people in mecca. I understand. The Quran doesn't promote violence because mecca doesn't count. *Nod nod nod*.

/S

[Vassenor]

You are free to read the Quran if you want context. Islam has it's origins in conversion at knifepoint. Thus the book pushes violence as a part of the faith. Deny it all you want but it has directly led to the violence we now see.

Accusing people who don't buy into your narrative of being in denial isn't really a good look.

[Washington Resistance Army]

You are free to read the Quran if you want context. Islam has it's origins in conversion at knifepoint. Thus the book pushes violence as a part of the faith. Deny it all you want but it has directly led to the violence we now see.

Accusing people who don't buy into your narrative of being in denial isn't really a good look.

He's not wrong though. From literally the moment the religion was created it was spread by the sword.

[The Huskar Social Union]

Accusing people who don't buy into your narrative of being in denial isn't really a good look.

He's not wrong though. From literally the moment the religion was created it was spread by the sword.

Quite quickly too, with most of the Middle east and North Africa falling under muslim control and influence is about 130 years.

Really helps with the big powers in the region are crippled from constant fighting against one another.

[New Bremerton]

What the ACTUAL FUCK. I cannot believe radical Islamists would carry out an attack on peaceful Christians in a non-Western country where both Christians and Muslims are a minority and most of the violence historically has been between the majority Sinhalese Buddhists and the minority LTTE Hindu Tamil Tiger separatists. What have Sri Lankan Christians ever done to earn the ire of Sri Lankan Muslims? Absolutely nothing as far as I can gather. In fact, it is the Buddhist majority that has persecuted Sri Lankan Muslims in recent years. This is a completely unprovoked attack by Muslims against Christians perpetrated in the name of Islam, if government sources are to be believed. I want to see some justice done.

As many posters have rightly pointed out, the doctrine of Islam is partly if not entirely to blame for these attacks. Remove the doctrine of Islam and you remove Islamist terrorism, which is directly inspired by (an intolerant interpretation of) Islam. It's that simple.

[Vassenor]

What the ACTUAL FUCK. I cannot believe radical Islamists would carry out an attack on peaceful Christians in a non-Western country where both Christians and Muslims are a minority and most of the violence historically has been between the majority Sinhalese Buddhists and the minority LTTE Hindu Tamil Tiger separatists. What have Sri Lankan Christians ever done to earn the ire of Sri Lankan Muslims? Absolutely nothing as far as I can gather. In fact, it is the Buddhist majority that has persecuted Sri Lankan Muslims in recent years. This is a completely unprovoked attack by Muslims against Christians perpetrated in the name of Islam, if government sources are to be believed. I want to see some justice done.

As many posters have rightly pointed out, the doctrine of Islam is partly if not entirely to blame for these attacks. Remove the doctrine of Islam and you remove Islamist terrorism, which is directly inspired by (an intolerant interpretation of) Islam. It's that simple.

So rather than educating people about how that interpretation of Islam is incorrect, you want the entire religion eliminated.

Now that actually is genocide.

[Kragholm Free States]

What the ACTUAL FUCK. I cannot believe radical Islamists would carry out an attack on peaceful Christians in a non-Western country where both Christians and Muslims are a minority and most of the violence historically has been between the majority Sinhalese Buddhists and the minority LTTE Hindu Tamil Tiger separatists. What have Sri Lankan Christians ever done to earn the ire of Sri Lankan Muslims? Absolutely nothing as far as I can gather. In fact, it is the Buddhist majority that has persecuted Sri Lankan Muslims in recent years. This is a completely unprovoked attack by Muslims against Christians perpetrated in the name of Islam, if government sources are to be believed. I want to see some justice done.

As many posters have rightly pointed out, the doctrine of Islam is partly if not entirely to blame for these attacks. Remove the doctrine of Islam and you remove Islamist terrorism, which is directly inspired by (an intolerant interpretation of) Islam. It's that simple.

So rather than educating people about how that interpretation of Islam is incorrect, you want the entire religion eliminated.

Now that actually is genocide.

Please, do me the kindness of highlighting the part of New Bremerton's post wherein he states his desire to see "the entire religion eliminated". Unless, of course, you're indulging in your usual pastime of deliberately and grossly misrepresenting peoples' words to fit your own agenda.

[Vassenor]

So rather than educating people about how that interpretation of Islam is incorrect, you want the entire religion eliminated.

Now that actually is genocide.

Please, do me the kindness of highlighting the part of New Bremerton's post wherein he states his desire to see "the entire religion eliminated". Unless, of course, you're indulging in your usual pastime of deliberately and grossly misrepresenting peoples' words to fit your own agenda.

So what does "remove the doctrine of Islam" actually mean then?

[Kragholm Free States]

Please, do me the kindness of highlighting the part of New Bremerton's post wherein he states his desire to see "the entire religion eliminated". Unless, of course, you're indulging in your usual pastime of deliberately and grossly misrepresenting peoples' words to fit your own agenda.

So what does "remove the doctrine of Islam" actually mean then?

In light of New Bremerton's clarification that "an intolerant interpretation of Islam" was responsible, presumably it means removing the Islamic doctrine that is telling people to go out and murder all the unbelievers. If Islam is truly a good and peaceful religion as you seem to think, it shouldn't be a hard task to remove what must surely be a small and insignificant portion of the religion as a whole, correct?

[Vassenor]

So what does "remove the doctrine of Islam" actually mean then?

Presumably remove the Islamic doctrine that is telling people to go out and murder all the unbelievers. If Islam is truly a good and peaceful religion as you seem to think, it shouldn't be a hard task to remove what must surely be a small and insignificant portion of the religion as a whole, correct?

Hence my point about educating people about how that interpretation of Islam is incorrect.

[Kragholm Free States]

Presumably remove the Islamic doctrine that is telling people to go out and murder all the unbelievers. If Islam is truly a good and peaceful religion as you seem to think, it shouldn't be a hard task to remove what must surely be a small and insignificant portion of the religion as a whole, correct?

Hence my point about educating people about how that interpretation of Islam is incorrect.

I wholeheartedly agree. In fact, I will gladly buy you a plane ticket to the Middle East - or Sri Lanka as well, it seems - so that you can go and teach the Muslims there that their interpretation of Islam is incorrect. I'm interested to see how well they receive your wise words.

[Loben]

Presumably remove the Islamic doctrine that is telling people to go out and murder all the unbelievers. If Islam is truly a good and peaceful religion as you seem to think, it shouldn't be a hard task to remove what must surely be a small and insignificant portion of the religion as a whole, correct?

Hence my point about educating people about how that interpretation of Islam is incorrect.

How do you educate a billion people?