New Mexico militia's detaining migrants.

[Medwind]

Literally nobody has advocated open borders.

If they did, its a risky political move, and they could get attacked for all sides.

Nah, prob get high praise from the left, can almost guarantee it.

[Bear Stearns]

Let's look at this from there prospective, everyday countless iligal imagrents cross the border and in there mind invade there Country.

They form a milita to stop the onslaught and aid the under staffed/ Funded CBP, but only after the Congress doesn't do anything and there governor pulls the national guard because there's "no threat".

So they have a right to be angry and defend there county.

There really is no threat beyond those of individual criminals with previous criminal histories, and how many of them are there among thousands and thousands?

Try millions.

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[Likar]

If they did, its a risky political move, and they could get attacked for all sides.

Nah, prob get high praise from the left, can almost guarantee it.

Yes, but they are many democrats (including me) that like many border restrictions. I am born of a family of legal immigrants, and to a level, feel that illegal immigrants should wait the process (my father was born in pakistan, same with my mother, both immigrated to the US on education visas.)

[LimaUniformNovemberAlpha]

I’m sure finding people coming from the direction of the border with supplies and other gear certainly is reasonable information to conclude that they’re illegal, however

Yeah, that, and add in the no habla ingles is probably another giveaway, plus general appearance, IE wet, dirty, etc. (that's not racist, think about it for a minute before you get all upset) That article OP posted is out of date, might not still hold true. Even if it does, a crimes a crime, and as I've been saying they are justified imo.

You repeat this even after it was repeatedly pointed out, within this thread, that being in the country illegally is a civil offense and not a criminal one?

Way to discredit yourself.

[Duhon]

There really is no threat beyond those of individual criminals with previous criminal histories, and how many of them are there among thousands and thousands?

Try millions.

Millions and millions of criminals.

...

... huh?

[Pannerstone]

Let's look at this from there prospective, everyday countless iligal imagrents cross the border and in there mind invade there Country.

They form a milita to stop the onslaught and aid the under staffed/ Funded CBP, but only after the Congress doesn't do anything and there governor pulls the national guard because there's "no threat".

So they have a right to be angry and defend there county.

There really is no threat beyond those of individual criminals with previous criminal histories, and how many of them are there among thousands and thousands?

Cartel violence is literally notorious on the border what fantasy world are you living in

[Bear Stearns]

Try millions.

Millions and millions of criminals.

...

... huh?

Of illegal immigrants. Conservative estimates say there are 15 million, but it is likely much higher. If even a fraction of those are criminals, that's still many.

[Likar]

If they did, its a risky political move, and they could get attacked for all sides.

Seriously. See, this guy gets it!

Thanks for the compliment. But its true; maybe parts of the left may be more sympathetic or support it, but there would still be liberals like me and many conservatives that would.. how do I say this politely... bombard he/she who said the statement.

[Ifreann]

Are militias composed of citizens permitted by law to detain illegal immigrants, at all?

One would assume that a sort of citizens arrest thing would be at play here, and certain militias have been doing this since the mid 2000's and it's never been cracked down on so presumably it's legal.

It's not. New Mexico only allows private citizens to arrest without a warrant people who have been charged with a crime punishable by over one year in prison or death.

[Bear Stearns]

Seriously. See, this guy gets it!

Thanks for the compliment. But its true; maybe parts of the left may be more sympathetic or support it, but there would still be liberals like me and many conservatives that would.. how do I say this politely... bombard he/she who said the statement.

Liberals cheered when Kate Steinle's murderer was found not guilty.

[The Galactic Liberal Democracy]

Nah, prob get high praise from the left, can almost guarantee it.

I have to put up with this guy on a daily basis. Imagine how I feel.

[Kowani]

Millions and millions of criminals.

...

... huh?

Of illegal immigrants. Conservative estimates say there are 15 million, but it is likely much higher. If even a fraction of those are criminals, that's still many.

https://www.cato.org/publications/polic ... lysis#full

[Nanatsu no Tsuki]

Are militias composed of citizens permitted by law to detain illegal immigrants, at all?

One would assume that a sort of citizens arrest thing would be at play here, and certain militias have been doing this since the mid 2000's and it's never been cracked down on so presumably it's legal.

Seems like this case is different. They’re claiming to work for Border Patrol when that is not true (as per BP’s own admission). Also, NM’s laws do not permit, apparently, such actions from private citizens.

[Likar]

Millions and millions of criminals.

...

... huh?

Of illegal immigrants. Conservative estimates say there are 15 million, but it is likely much higher. If even a fraction of those are criminals, that's still many.

https://www.migrationpolicy.org/news/un ... ty-removal

While the number of illegal immigrants with criminal records is high (820,000 people) only 300,000 have any major crime on the record.

Not millions. And not the mention the chance of dying by a illegal immigrant in a terror attack is one is in 3.2 billion (I think, it may be that number for refugees, so mind my sloppy statistics).

[Duhon]

Millions and millions of criminals.

...

... huh?

Of illegal immigrants. Conservative estimates say there are 15 million, but it is likely much higher. If even a fraction of those are criminals, that's still many.

Illegal immigrants are not necessarily criminals, as has been repeatedly stated in this thread and elsewhere.

[Pannerstone]

One would assume that a sort of citizens arrest thing would be at play here, and certain militias have been doing this since the mid 2000's and it's never been cracked down on so presumably it's legal.

Seems like this case is different. They’re claiming to work for Border Patrol when that is not true (as per BP’s own admission). Also, NM’s laws do not permit, apparently, such actions from private citizens.

2nd amendment disagrees and this has been going on for awhile

[Nanatsu no Tsuki]

Of illegal immigrants. Conservative estimates say there are 15 million, but it is likely much higher. If even a fraction of those are criminals, that's still many.

Illegal immigrants are not necessarily criminals, as has been repeatedly stated in this thread and elsewhere.

Pretty much. Quite a few are just seeking asylum.

[The Galactic Liberal Democracy]

Nah, prob get high praise from the left, can almost guarantee it.

I have to put up with this guy on a daily basis. Imagine how I feel.

[Nanatsu no Tsuki]

Seems like this case is different. They’re claiming to work for Border Patrol when that is not true (as per BP’s own admission). Also, NM’s laws do not permit, apparently, such actions from private citizens.

2nd amendment disagrees and this has been going on for awhile

And? They are being told by law enforcement not to do it.

[Bear Stearns]

Of illegal immigrants. Conservative estimates say there are 15 million, but it is likely much higher. If even a fraction of those are criminals, that's still many.

https://www.cato.org/publications/polic ... lysis#full

If you read this, you know it's bonk because it doesn't account for population sizes. About 85% of Americans were born here, so of course they will commit the most terrorism. Furthermore, statistics on illegal immigrant crime are notoriously unreliable and difficult to track.

And in reference to your edit, your statistics are very sloppy.

[Ifreann]

Seems like this case is different. They’re claiming to work for Border Patrol when that is not true (as per BP’s own admission). Also, NM’s laws do not permit, apparently, such actions from private citizens.

2nd amendment disagrees and this has been going on for awhile

The 2nd Amendment doesn't say anything about arresting people.

[Pannerstone]

2nd amendment disagrees and this has been going on for awhile

And? They are being told by law enforcement not to do it.

And? Screw them, this is coming from a pro LE fan as well, when security isnt maintained the people will step in.

[El-Amin Caliphate]

This is hilariuos the people bit*hing about “ just let the government do it”

Are probably open border fans lets be real

Don't make assumptions.

Millions and millions of criminals.

...

... huh?

Of illegal immigrants. Conservative estimates say there are 15 million, but it is likely much higher. If even a fraction of those are criminals, that's still many.

Deport the criminals, keep the rest.

[Pannerstone]

2nd amendment disagrees and this has been going on for awhile

The 2nd Amendment doesn't say anything about arresting people.

It says security, its sort of implied you may need to detain people...