NationStates

Democratic Exodian Territories wrote:

Aureumterra wrote:NS actually has some of the most political diversity as compared to any other online forum I’ve seen

That I'd tip a hat to.

'"Dolphins don't have knees, hawks don't have thumbs, snakes don't have arms, Fascists don't have souls and Communists don't have brains." -myself'

Dude I think I love your nation now

Nazeroth wrote:

Mettaton-EX wrote:i don't know, ask nazeroth

expect from who?

Right-wingers

i) Yes, Nationstates has a left wing bias. I'm fairly certain Max Barry is more left then right.
ii) What's wrong with that?

Mettaton-EX wrote:

Nazeroth wrote: expect from who?

can none of you people read

Says the guy who doesn't capitalize his sentences.
You know what, F*CK IT, CAPS LOCK ON.
PLEASE, FIX YOUR SPELLING BEFORE YOU COME HERE.

Kyrinasaj wrote:

Communal concils wrote:

I will feel sad when it does. So anarcho-communism would become Far-right, and Nazi Germany becomes "Gommie".
I guess that a Neo-conservative that bombs the lands of brown people would be called "Left" wing again.

What? How does that work?

Mainstream political groups in America call everything incorrectly. In America, an Ideology that calls for more government involvement is called Left-wing, and everything small is called right wing.

It works like this:

Evil COMMUNISM<-------NATIONAL SOCIALIST GERMAN WORKERS PARTY<------------>Rainbow Democrats<------------->Republicans---------->Libertarianism-------->anarchy.

Communal concils wrote:

Kyrinasaj wrote:What? How does that work?

Mainstream political groups in America call everything incorrectly. In America, an Ideology that calls for more government involvement is called Left-wing, and everything small is called right wing.

It works like this:

Evil COMMUNISM<-------NATIONAL SOCIALIST GERMAN WORKERS PARTY<------------>Rainbow Democrats<------------->Republicans---------->Libertarianism-------->anarchy.

But that's wrong.

The Black Party wrote:i) Yes, Nationstates has a left wing bias. I'm fairly certain Max Barry is more left then right.
ii) What's wrong with that?

I. I don't get why
II. The problem is that right-wingers are often the victims nowadays, while leftists get away with spambot tactics.

Nazeroth wrote:

The Huskar Social Union wrote:Are you gona link to your Klansman comparison?

I already stated that I don't remember where it was posted, were past that.

I can't see it posted anywhere on the forums, myself.

[edit]Ah. I stand corrected.

Nilrahrarfan wrote:

Mettaton-EX wrote:can none of you people read

Says the guy who doesn't capitalize his sentences.
You know what, F*CK IT, CAPS LOCK ON.
PLEASE, FIX YOUR SPELLING BEFORE YOU COME HERE.

capitalization and punctuation are not the same as spelling, little known fact

Nilrahrarfan wrote:

The Black Party wrote:i) Yes, Nationstates has a left wing bias. I'm fairly certain Max Barry is more left then right.
ii) What's wrong with that?

I. I don't get why
II. The problem is that right-wingers are often the victims nowadays, while leftists get away with spambot tactics.

Aww, those poor fascists having it rough

In terms of issues, NS has a pretty serious right-libertarian bias. Shouldn't be a huge surprise; Max Barry's in that camp. Also, a lot of the people who write issues are cut from the same cloth. As a leftist, I don't necessarily mind, but it'd be good if the issue responses for socialist countries were more balanced.

As someone who mostly just tracks the forums rather than WA nowadays, I’d say there’s a strong community on either side of the spectrum.

If you look at only a single or few threads, you usually find a strong mean opinion that looks like the community’s biased, but overall it’s really just how dedicated either group is to that specific topic. It’s pretty balanced in the long term, if you ask me.

Nilrahrarfan wrote:

The Black Party wrote:i) Yes, Nationstates has a left wing bias. I'm fairly certain Max Barry is more left then right.
ii) What's wrong with that?

I. I don't get why
II. The problem is that right-wingers are often the victims nowadays, while leftists get away with spambot tactics.

Right-Wingers could always make their own alternative. People shouldn't come to this site expecting "equal rights". The mods obviously rule in favour of the left, and the entire site is tilted to cater to them, so why should the right not expect an uphill battle?

Kyrinasaj wrote:

Nilrahrarfan wrote:I. I don't get why
II. The problem is that right-wingers are often the victims nowadays, while leftists get away with spambot tactics.

Aww, those poor fascists having it rough

There the left goes again, calling everyone on the right a fascist. Really playing a powerball here.

Empire of Asgadr wrote:

Communal concils wrote:
I only call it Cancer because of how America has a bad record of labeling ideologies correctly. Maybe Politics would be free from ideological restrictions when people stop calling themselves "Right or Left". At the moment, people forget the reason why these terms exist.

True, they do tend to think that they know what ideology is what (generalisation), but I'd say we can all fall victim to that

I generally now the ideologies that I criticize. For example, I don't call reactionaries Fascist. Neither do I call Conservatives Fascist. I know what a Communist is, and I don't call Nazi Germany Communist. I also don't call free Heath care communist.

The Black Party wrote:

Nilrahrarfan wrote:I. I don't get why
II. The problem is that right-wingers are often the victims nowadays, while leftists get away with spambot tactics.

Right-Wingers could always make their own alternative. People shouldn't come to this site expecting "equal rights". The mods obviously rule in favour of the left, and the entire site is tilted to cater to them, so why should the right not expect an uphill battle?

OK, I'll create my own. Of course, it'll probably take years to create. And I'm lazy, so expect a long uphill battle to create the d*mn thing.

The Black Party wrote:

Nilrahrarfan wrote:I. I don't get why
II. The problem is that right-wingers are often the victims nowadays, while leftists get away with spambot tactics.

Right-Wingers could always make their own alternative.

no, they're not competent enough. look at what a disaster voat was. or gab. or whatever their youtube knockoff was called.

The Black Party wrote:

Kyrinasaj wrote:Aww, those poor fascists having it rough

There the left goes again, calling everyone on the right a fascist. Really playing a powerball here.

There the right goes again, blame an entire political wing for a single critique

The Black Party wrote:

Kyrinasaj wrote:Aww, those poor fascists having it rough

There the left goes again, calling everyone on the right a fascist. Really playing a powerball here.

Dude, that guy is literally a self-identified fascist.

Nilrahrarfan wrote:OK, I'll create my own. Of course, it'll probably take years to create. And I'm lazy, so expect a long uphill battle to create the d*mn thing.

It's not that I am against you or hate you or anything, but in the end, the site belongs to Max Barry and the admins he appoints. If he doesn't want to cater to the right, then he shouldn't have to.

Communal concils wrote:

Empire of Asgadr wrote:

True, they do tend to think that they know what ideology is what (generalisation), but I'd say we can all fall victim to that

I generally now the ideologies that I criticize. For example, I don't call reactionaries Fascist. Neither do I call Conservatives Fascist. I know what a Communist is, and I don't call Nazi Germany Communist. I also don't call free Heath care communist.

I hope you mean pure marxism by communist, and not that degeneracy they made in the USSR

Empire of Asgadr wrote:

The Black Party wrote:There the left goes again, calling everyone on the right a fascist. Really playing a powerball here.

There the right goes again, blame an entire political wing for a single critique

Fight fire with fire.

Kyrinasaj wrote:

The Black Party wrote:There the left goes again, calling everyone on the right a fascist. Really playing a powerball here.

Dude, that guy is literally a self-identified fascist.

We're not talking about "that guy". We're talking about "the [political] right."

Empire of Asgadr wrote:

Communal concils wrote:

I generally now the ideologies that I criticize. For example, I don't call reactionaries Fascist. Neither do I call Conservatives Fascist. I know what a Communist is, and I don't call Nazi Germany Communist. I also don't call free Heath care communist.

I hope you mean pure marxism by communist, and not that degeneracy they made in the USSR

The USSR wasn't degenerate.

RiderSyl wrote:NS Antifa existed before the real-life American counterpart. It's a group that raids fascist regions. It has no connection to the real life Antifa.

NS Antifa is a part of the wider Antifa movements, most of which existed before it. They were more or less popular at different times, and the Reactionary tide (specifically the boost it had around 2016) have given them a resurgence along with it.

The Black Party wrote:

Kyrinasaj wrote:Aww, those poor fascists having it rough

There the left goes again, calling everyone on the right a fascist. Really playing a powerball here.

That's the problem with the left: they're willing to call everyone to the right of Stalin "fascist", yet do spambot tactics that even FASCISTS like me would disapprove of.