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Postby Liriena » Fri Apr 19, 2019 11:38 am

Nazeroth wrote:
Liriena wrote:It makes sense, though. For example, how likely are most left-wing NSers, even if they are shitposting, to call another user a "faggot", or the "n-word", or the "t-word"? To call LGBT+ posters mentally ill or demean female users or say something anti-semitic?


I've bee compared to Klansmen before without repercussion, your point?

There's a difference between being compared to Klansmen as an argument against your opinions and being demeaned on a personal level over your identity.
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Postby Skyhooked » Fri Apr 19, 2019 11:38 am

I also think, that mods are not biased. Or at least not too biased. I could swear, that I have seen leftists slapped with red warning or hit with a banhammer too.

However, those solidly on the right side are usually more prone to thingies like all X are Y, and racial slurs, both of which are punishable offenses on forums, so...
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Postby The World Capitalist Confederation » Fri Apr 19, 2019 11:39 am

Liriena wrote:
Nazeroth wrote:
^

Literally leftist propaganda

"Well there bigots so hur hur"

typical

It makes sense, though. For example, how likely are most left-wing NSers, even if they are shitposting, to call another user a "faggot", or the "n-word", or the "t-word"? To call LGBT+ posters mentally ill or demean female users or say something anti-semitic?

I think that it's actually impossible. All those misandrist, radical Islamist and black supremacist people actually belong on the far-right. At this point, I think that socialists are actually bagged on too much. I've seen people get banned for saying that the Holodomor was caused by grain burning or Western intervention (which itself is a valid viewpoint, and one that I agree with although people who disagree with it aren't wrong), saying that communism killed less than 100 million people or, and I know this sounds ridiculous, saying that revolution is the only option to ensure socialism, and is the correct option. The last one's probably because of sedition/treason laws or 'incitement to violence', but the other two are defined as 'genocide denial' for some reason.
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Postby LiberNovusAmericae » Fri Apr 19, 2019 11:39 am

I think the way the delegate system is set up gives the left a far bigger voice, especially with the non-democratic GCRs and their left wing delegates. Even though right wingers have sizable numbers here, we don't have as much power in the WA as delegates have so much power.
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Postby Nazeroth » Fri Apr 19, 2019 11:41 am

Liriena wrote:
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I've bee compared to Klansmen before without repercussion, your point?

There's a difference between being compared to Klansmen as an argument against your opinions and being demeaned on a personal level over your identity.


It had nothing to do with my opinions, stop making excuses for tolerating this bullcrap.
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Postby Skyhooked » Fri Apr 19, 2019 11:41 am

The World Capitalist Confederation wrote:
Skyhooked wrote:I doubt it has left wing bias. I've seen lots of right wingers here of different sorts. From moderate conservatives and libertarian capitalists to those with fascist or even neo-nazi views. But I've also seen some leftist folks and centrists too.

Yet, I think, that there are not too many libertarian center-left folks like me.

Ancoms and ansynds such as myself aren't all that uncommon though. Are you a mutualist or what? What is your ideology? I'm going to guess one of three things:

1. Mutualism
2. Anarcho-Egoism (Stirner style, not "BURN DOWN EVERYTHING HURR DURR")
3. Anarcho-Georgism


Aaand... Your first shot hits the target! Yep, my views are pretty close to Mutualism. NOt exactly mutualist, but pretty close...
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Postby The World Capitalist Confederation » Fri Apr 19, 2019 11:43 am

Skyhooked wrote:
The World Capitalist Confederation wrote:Ancoms and ansynds such as myself aren't all that uncommon though. Are you a mutualist or what? What is your ideology? I'm going to guess one of three things:

1. Mutualism
2. Anarcho-Egoism (Stirner style, not "BURN DOWN EVERYTHING HURR DURR")
3. Anarcho-Georgism


Aaand... Your first shot hits the target! Yep, my views are pretty close to Mutualism. NOt exactly mutualist, but pretty close...

Yeah, it's not really a popular opinion anymore. Back in the days of the Paris Commune it was, but after its failure Bakunin and Marx went "Yeah no, we have to create an alternative system." and so did the rest of the First Internationale, and that's why we don't have Mutualism anymore. I used to be one, until I realised that markets create inequality, not capitalism.
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Postby Valrifell » Fri Apr 19, 2019 11:44 am

LiberNovusAmericae wrote:I think the way the delegate system is set up gives the left a far bigger voice, especially with the non-democratic GCRs. Even though right wingers have sizable numbers here, we don't have as much power in the WA.


I love the (false) equivalency between a non-democratic and a leftist region and the implication that there have never been right-wing delegates of GCRs, which is wrong.
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Postby Socialist Workers Combine » Fri Apr 19, 2019 11:44 am

Most of you, or at least half or more, would prefer the 1% own 50% rather than managing the economy yourself, which as a socialist I adocate, so no, you are not left wing.

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Postby LiberNovusAmericae » Fri Apr 19, 2019 11:46 am

Valrifell wrote:
LiberNovusAmericae wrote:I think the way the delegate system is set up gives the left a far bigger voice, especially with the non-democratic GCRs. Even though right wingers have sizable numbers here, we don't have as much power in the WA.


I love the (false) equivalency between a non-democratic and a leftist region and the implication that there have never been right-wing delegates of GCRs, which is wrong.

I'm sure there have been, but many of them currently appear to be left wingers.

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Postby The Grims » Fri Apr 19, 2019 11:47 am

Depends on your point of view. Right wing in Europe would be considered centrist/left in the USA - so to an American many European posters would look left even though they consider themselves right wing.

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Postby Liriena » Fri Apr 19, 2019 11:50 am

Nazeroth wrote:
Liriena wrote:There's a difference between being compared to Klansmen as an argument against your opinions and being demeaned on a personal level over your identity.


It had nothing to do with my opinions, stop making excuses for tolerating this bullcrap.

If you'd like, you could always give me a link to when you got compared to Klansmen and we'll see if you're right.
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Postby Duhon » Fri Apr 19, 2019 11:52 am

Oh, who gives a shit?

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Postby Nazeroth » Fri Apr 19, 2019 11:52 am

Liriena wrote:
Nazeroth wrote:
It had nothing to do with my opinions, stop making excuses for tolerating this bullcrap.

If you'd like, you could always give me a link to when you got compared to Klansmen and we'll see if you're right.


"well see if your right"

are you a judge?
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Postby Communal concils » Fri Apr 19, 2019 11:54 am

NS isn't really just sided to one side, it's a free for all. All Ideologies can thrive here , they only get banned for contradicting rules of the website.
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Postby Communal concils » Fri Apr 19, 2019 11:55 am

Duhon wrote:Oh, who gives a shit?



well, only the Ideological blinded people care.
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Postby North Arkana » Fri Apr 19, 2019 11:55 am

Nazeroth wrote:
Liriena wrote:If you'd like, you could always give me a link to when you got compared to Klansmen and we'll see if you're right.


"well see if your right"

are you a judge?

Are you? You seem to be convinced you're uniquely qualified to pass judgment on this incident you're referring to.
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Postby Nazeroth » Fri Apr 19, 2019 11:56 am

North Arkana wrote:
Nazeroth wrote:
"well see if your right"

are you a judge?

Are you? You seem to be convinced you're uniquely qualified to pass judgment on this incident you're referring to.


oh no, they were fine to pass judgement, it was just hypocritical that's all, just like most of the leftist mods who coddle the leftist and socialists on this site.
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Postby Caracasus » Fri Apr 19, 2019 11:56 am

Nazeroth wrote:
Liriena wrote:If you'd like, you could always give me a link to when you got compared to Klansmen and we'll see if you're right.


"well see if your right"

are you a judge?


Well if everyone could take a look, it'd seem much less like something you made up.
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Postby Mettaton-EX » Fri Apr 19, 2019 11:58 am

Liriena wrote:
Nazeroth wrote:
^

Literally leftist propaganda

"Well there bigots so hur hur"

typical

It makes sense, though. For example, how likely are most left-wing NSers, even if they are shitposting, to call another user a "faggot", or the "n-word", or the "t-word"? To call LGBT+ posters mentally ill or demean female users or say something anti-semitic?


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Postby Nazeroth » Fri Apr 19, 2019 11:58 am

Caracasus wrote:
Nazeroth wrote:
"well see if your right"

are you a judge?


Well if everyone could take a look, it'd seem much less like something you made up.


Pardon me if I find it highly futile to do such a thing in the presence of quite literally ANTIFA wannabees.
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Postby The Huskar Social Union » Fri Apr 19, 2019 11:59 am

Nazeroth wrote:
Caracasus wrote:
Well if everyone could take a look, it'd seem much less like something you made up.


Pardon me if I find it highly futile to do such a thing in the presence of quite literally ANTIFA wannabees.

Instead of insulting people you could you know, post the link and show evidence to when you were wrongfully compared to a racist KKK member.
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Postby Andsed » Fri Apr 19, 2019 12:00 pm

Not really. I have seen plenty of right wingers here. There might be slightly more left wing people here but not by a large margin.

Nazeroth wrote:
Caracasus wrote:
Well if everyone could take a look, it'd seem much less like something you made up.


Pardon me if I find it highly futile to do such a thing in the presence of quite literally ANTIFA wannabees.

LOL what?
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Postby Caracasus » Fri Apr 19, 2019 12:02 pm

Nazeroth wrote:
Caracasus wrote:
Well if everyone could take a look, it'd seem much less like something you made up.


Pardon me if I find it highly futile to do such a thing in the presence of quite literally ANTIFA wannabees.


You said that you'd been compared to a klansman before without repurcussion. That implies either you reported it and it wasn't deemed trolling or whatever or you didn't feel it was worth reporting.

If it's the former, where is the link (quick search of moderation turns up zilch) and if it's the latter why bother bringing it up now?
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