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LiberNovusAmericae
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Duhon
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Postby Duhon » Fri Apr 19, 2019 7:33 pm

Torrocca wrote:
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You can oppose him and draw attention away from him without doing that. You know that, right, Torra?


Sure, but that doesn't make this an invalid form of shutting down blatant transphobia. Plus, he gets to smell and look fabulous now, too. I'd call that a net win for everybody.


Uh, this is invalid. Assault doesn't have to entail physical harm.

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Torrocca
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Postby Torrocca » Fri Apr 19, 2019 7:34 pm

Kowani wrote:
Dresderstan wrote:
Unfortunately that is all people like Torro will do, is shitpost in bad faith and nothing is done about it... shocking.

Well I like it. It’s hilarious.


You wouldn't find it so hilarious after spending a week in the killing fields of Lavenderia. You don't know what it's like, to one moment be talking to your battle buddy in the trench and the next see them melt away from a lavender oil ambush from the treeline. Mike Knowles is lucky he only got away with a severe case of being mildly inconvenienced by it.
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Communist Zombie Horde
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Postby Communist Zombie Horde » Fri Apr 19, 2019 7:35 pm

LiberNovusAmericae wrote:https://forum.nationstates.net/ucp.php?i=zebra&mode=foes&add=Torrocca

What does that do?
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LiberNovusAmericae
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Postby LiberNovusAmericae » Fri Apr 19, 2019 7:35 pm

Duhon wrote:
Torrocca wrote:
Sure, but that doesn't make this an invalid form of shutting down blatant transphobia. Plus, he gets to smell and look fabulous now, too. I'd call that a net win for everybody.


Uh, this is invalid. Assault doesn't have to entail physical harm.

This ^^. Physical harm is more in the category of battery, not simple assault.

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Torrocca
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Postby Torrocca » Fri Apr 19, 2019 7:35 pm

Duhon wrote:
Torrocca wrote:
Sure, but that doesn't make this an invalid form of shutting down blatant transphobia. Plus, he gets to smell and look fabulous now, too. I'd call that a net win for everybody.


Uh, this is invalid. Assault doesn't have to entail physical harm.


I'd say it's subjective. ¯\_(ツ)_/¯

Communist Zombie Horde wrote:God (or whoever) bless this patriot. He was trying to protect American values and the sjw attacked him with a gun and dangerous substance. He could have been killed! It brings a knowing smile to my face though- when he laughs it off. The leftists will not be able to heart us. This is a tear inducing (like the solution that was used in the terrorists weapons) reminder how violent the left is. They continue to attack anything not conforming to pc beliefs. Act like civilized people please- it’s really gone too far. The alt-left is getting stronger and laying siege to America. They are angry that the words of rightists are more powerful than the assaults of leftists.

Actions speak louder than words.


Holy shit somebody's unironically claiming that lavender oil and glitter could've killed him, JFC lmao my meming was absurdism until just now.
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Postby Duhon » Fri Apr 19, 2019 7:35 pm

Communist Zombie Horde wrote:God (or whoever) bless this patriot. He was trying to protect American values and the sjw attacked him with a gun and dangerous substance. He could have been killed! It brings a knowing smile to my face though- when he laughs it off. The leftists will not be able to heart us. This is a tear inducing (like the solution that was used in the terrorists weapons) reminder how violent the left is. They continue to attack anything not conforming to pc beliefs. Act like civilized people please- it’s really gone too far. The alt-left is getting stronger and laying siege to America. They are angry that the words of rightists are more powerful than the assaults of leftists.

Actions speak louder than words.


American values my ass.

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Postby LiberNovusAmericae » Fri Apr 19, 2019 7:36 pm

Communist Zombie Horde wrote:
LiberNovusAmericae wrote:https://forum.nationstates.net/ucp.php?i=zebra&mode=foes&add=Torrocca

What does that do?

Adds Torrocca to your foe list or at least it should.

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Torrocca
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Postby Torrocca » Fri Apr 19, 2019 7:38 pm

LiberNovusAmericae wrote:
Communist Zombie Horde wrote:What does that do?

Adds Torrocca to your foe list or at least it should.


All this, simply because I mocked the absurd reaction to a guy getting sprayed with some lavender oil and glitter. RIP.
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Postby Kowani » Fri Apr 19, 2019 7:38 pm

Communist Zombie Horde wrote:God (or whoever) bless this patriot. He was trying to protect American values and the sjw attacked him with a gun and dangerous substance. He could have been killed! It brings a knowing smile to my face though- when he laughs it off. The leftists will not be able to heart us. This is a tear inducing (like the solution that was used in the terrorists weapons) reminder how violent the left is. They continue to attack anything not conforming to pc beliefs. Act like civilized people please- it’s really gone too far. The alt-left is getting stronger and laying siege to America. They are angry that the words of rightists are more powerful than the assaults of leftists.

Actions speak louder than words.

Yes, the American values of hatred and intolerance.
Wait, those are American values, guess you’re right…
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Costa Fierro
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Postby Costa Fierro » Fri Apr 19, 2019 7:39 pm

The Black Forrest wrote:
Costa Fierro wrote:
Because it's true that modern feminism has a problem with transphobia? More to the point, calling it "incel stuff" doesn't detract from it, if anything it's a feeble attempt at discrediting my point. Not surprising coming from the likes of you though.


The victim card is boring. You made a valid point in the beginning and then lessened it.


My point is always valid no matter what you think of it. It's not lesser because you say it is.

And it isn't playing the victim card, it's pointing out that you're just doing what feminists always do: deflect and attack. People like you are why feminism has a problem with transphobia.
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Postby Costa Fierro » Fri Apr 19, 2019 7:41 pm

Torrocca wrote:
The Black Forrest wrote:
You could have simply left it with: "So he didn't say anything wrong but was still attacked by morons"

Why wreck with with incel stuff?


Leftists only selectively care about trans rights /s


The only thing leftists are selective about is the truth.
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Postby Kowani » Fri Apr 19, 2019 7:42 pm

Costa Fierro wrote:
Torrocca wrote:
Leftists only selectively care about trans rights /s


The only thing leftists humans are selective about is the truth.

FTFY.
Abolitionism in the North has leagued itself with Radical Democracy, and so the Slave Power was forced to ally itself with the Money Power; that is the great fact of the age.




The triumph of the Democracy is essential to the struggle of popular liberty


Currently Rehabilitating: Martin Van Buren, Benjamin Harrison, and Woodrow Wilson
Currently Vilifying: George Washington, Theodore Roosevelt, and Jimmy Carter

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Communist Zombie Horde
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Postby Communist Zombie Horde » Fri Apr 19, 2019 7:42 pm

Torrocca wrote:
Holy shit somebody's unironically claiming that lavender oil and glitter could've killed him, JFC lmao my meming was absurdism until just now.

I’m allergic to lavender oil and if those gets in your face you can die. Its not funny- your joking so rudely at someone who had a close scrape with death itself. The two are more deadly than gases like Zyklon B in the same amount and concentration fired from the weapon. Even cyanide gas is less likely to kill someone if fired from the same device the terrorist used. It was murderous intent and potentially lethal. A fu**ing knife may be unlikely to kill- but it can kill if in the right spot. So it is a deadly weapon that can be used to kill.
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Costa Fierro
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Postby Costa Fierro » Fri Apr 19, 2019 7:46 pm

Des-Bal wrote:
The Black Forrest wrote:
Whodahwhatnow?

He's made a valid case for this being tribalist bulls hit and dismissing it as "incel" isn't really adequate.


It was never meant to be adequate. "Oh you're an incel" is as much an attempt at attacking the person and attempting to discredit what they're saying as it is a deflection of the criticism itself. It's a pathetic attempt, but an attempt nonetheless.

It doesn't detract from the fact that what the speaker said was fundamentally correct. It doesn't detract from the fact that had it been a feminist speaking, the reaction would have not been the same.
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Postby Torrocca » Fri Apr 19, 2019 7:47 pm

Communist Zombie Horde wrote:
Torrocca wrote:
Holy shit somebody's unironically claiming that lavender oil and glitter could've killed him, JFC lmao my meming was absurdism until just now.

I’m allergic to lavender oil and if those gets in your face you can die. Its not funny- your joking so rudely at someone who had a close scrape with death itself.


Well, sorry to hear that.

The two are more deadly than gases like Zyklon B in the same amount and concentration fired from the weapon. Even cyanide gas is less likely to kill someone if fired from the same device the terrorist used. It was murderous intent and potentially lethal. A fu**ing knife may be unlikely to kill- but it can kill if in the right spot. So it is a deadly weapon that can be used to kill.


... And you've immediately lost me again. I'm pretty certain most people - hell, the vast majority of people, in fact - aren't allergic to lavender.
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Costa Fierro
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Postby Costa Fierro » Fri Apr 19, 2019 7:47 pm

Kowani wrote:
Costa Fierro wrote:
The only thing leftists humans are selective about is the truth.

FTFY.


I wouldn't call it a human quality, there are those of us out there that are very much on the ball with what is factual and what is not.
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Yusseria
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Postby Yusseria » Fri Apr 19, 2019 7:47 pm

Gormwood wrote:
Scomagia wrote:You mean the person who broke the law. Calling them "the people supporting trans people" is a whitewash.

Remember the time when the Civil Rights Movement were called lawbreakers?

Ah, I see. Angry leftists attacking a dude for disagreeing with them now makes them the same as the largely peaceful Civil Rights Movement.

Fucking adorable.
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Torrocca
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Postby Torrocca » Fri Apr 19, 2019 7:48 pm

Yusseria wrote:
Gormwood wrote:Remember the time when the Civil Rights Movement were called lawbreakers?

Ah, I see. Angry leftists attacking a dude for disagreeing with them now makes them the say as the largely peaceful Civil Rights Movement.

Fucking adorable.


... The Civil Rights movement was hardly peaceful.
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They call me Torra, but you can call me... anytime (☞⌐■_■)☞
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NOTICE 1: Anything depicted IC on this nation does NOT reflect my IRL views or values, and is not endorsed by me.
NOTICE 2: Most RP and every OOC post by me prior to 2023 are no longer endorsed nor tolerated by me. I've since put on my adult pants!
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Communist Zombie Horde
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Postby Communist Zombie Horde » Fri Apr 19, 2019 7:51 pm

Torrocca wrote:
Communist Zombie Horde wrote:I’m allergic to lavender oil and if those gets in your face you can die. Its not funny- your joking so rudely at someone who had a close scrape with death itself.


Well, sorry to hear that.

The two are more deadly than gases like Zyklon B in the same amount and concentration fired from the weapon. Even cyanide gas is less likely to kill someone if fired from the same device the terrorist used. It was murderous intent and potentially lethal. A fu**ing knife may be unlikely to kill- but it can kill if in the right spot. So it is a deadly weapon that can be used to kill.


... And you've immediately lost me again. I'm pretty certain most people - hell, the vast majority of people, in fact - aren't allergic to lavender.

Well even if you not allergic lavender and glitter up your nostrils and eyes can stop your breathing.
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Duhon
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Postby Duhon » Fri Apr 19, 2019 7:51 pm

Torrocca wrote:
Yusseria wrote:Ah, I see. Angry leftists attacking a dude for disagreeing with them now makes them the say as the largely peaceful Civil Rights Movement.

Fucking adorable.


... The Civil Rights movement was hardly peaceful.


... yeah, Michael Knowles is not the government either.

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Postby Scomagia » Fri Apr 19, 2019 7:51 pm

Torrocca wrote:
Yusseria wrote:Ah, I see. Angry leftists attacking a dude for disagreeing with them now makes them the say as the largely peaceful Civil Rights Movement.

Fucking adorable.


... The Civil Rights movement was hardly peaceful.

This situation is not comparable to the Civil Rights Movement.
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Kowani
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Postby Kowani » Fri Apr 19, 2019 7:52 pm

Costa Fierro wrote:
Kowani wrote:FTFY.


I wouldn't call it a human quality, there are those of us out there that are very much on the ball with what is factual and what is not.

Yeah…no.
Abolitionism in the North has leagued itself with Radical Democracy, and so the Slave Power was forced to ally itself with the Money Power; that is the great fact of the age.




The triumph of the Democracy is essential to the struggle of popular liberty


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Currently Vilifying: George Washington, Theodore Roosevelt, and Jimmy Carter

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Torrocca
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Postby Torrocca » Fri Apr 19, 2019 7:53 pm

Communist Zombie Horde wrote:
Torrocca wrote:
Well, sorry to hear that.



... And you've immediately lost me again. I'm pretty certain most people - hell, the vast majority of people, in fact - aren't allergic to lavender.

Well even if you not allergic lavender and glitter up your nostrils and eyes can stop your breathing.


The odds of that somehow happening in this case are so slim that I'd call it silly to even bring it up.

Scomagia wrote:
Torrocca wrote:
... The Civil Rights movement was hardly peaceful.

This situation is not comparable to the Civil Rights Movement.


That's beside the point I was arguing against.

Duhon wrote:
Torrocca wrote:
... The Civil Rights movement was hardly peaceful.


... yeah, Michael Knowles is not the government either.


I mean, technically neither are the KKK nor lynch mobs nor (in the case of trans people) transphobes and people who murder trans people.
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They call me Torra, but you can call me... anytime (☞⌐■_■)☞
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NOTICE 1: Anything depicted IC on this nation does NOT reflect my IRL views or values, and is not endorsed by me.
NOTICE 2: Most RP and every OOC post by me prior to 2023 are no longer endorsed nor tolerated by me. I've since put on my adult pants!
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Yusseria
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Postby Yusseria » Fri Apr 19, 2019 7:53 pm

Torrocca wrote:
Yusseria wrote:Ah, I see. Angry leftists attacking a dude for disagreeing with them now makes them the say as the largely peaceful Civil Rights Movement.

Fucking adorable.


... The Civil Rights movement was hardly peaceful.

It's most successful leader (MLK, obviously) was peaceful.
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