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Postby Cossack Khanate » Fri Apr 19, 2019 5:48 pm

This is clear suppression of that same “freedom” that the liberals are “fighting” for. First of all, he has the right to his speech. Speech and thought don’t harm, actions do. The antifas and hardcore liberals are thought-policing us, and I frankly don’t see how it is any different from communist thought policing?

Second, like I saw in the OP, why are you even at a conservative speech if you are that liberal? So liberal you don’t even let the guy talk? It seems to be just so they can mess up his event. And a footnote here, why is this guy carrying a water pistol with lavender oil in it if you never wanted to attack someone?
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Postby Costa Fierro » Fri Apr 19, 2019 5:51 pm

So he didn't say anything wrong but was still attacked by morons who wouldn't do the same if a feminist came out and blatantly said "men are not women".
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Postby Czech-Bohemia » Fri Apr 19, 2019 5:51 pm

Hecklers were being disruptive idiots and contributing nothing, other than that I don't really care.
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Postby Jack Thomas Lang » Fri Apr 19, 2019 5:54 pm

I'm curious to see the responses here if the script was flipped and a feminist speaker was assaulted in this manner by white conservative males.

I imagine a lot more outrage.

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Postby The Black Forrest » Fri Apr 19, 2019 5:55 pm

Costa Fierro wrote:So he didn't say anything wrong but was still attacked by morons who wouldn't do the same if a feminist came out and blatantly said "men are not women".


You could have simply left it with: "So he didn't say anything wrong but was still attacked by morons"

Why wreck with with incel stuff?
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Postby The Black Forrest » Fri Apr 19, 2019 5:55 pm

Czech-Bohemia wrote:Hecklers were being disruptive idiots and contributing nothing, other than that I don't really care.


Why did you post?
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Postby The South Falls » Fri Apr 19, 2019 5:56 pm

Jack Thomas Lang wrote:I'm curious to see the responses here if the script was flipped and a feminist speaker was assaulted in this manner by white conservative males.

I imagine a lot more outrage.

Because someone got glitterbombed? Hah.
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Postby The Black Forrest » Fri Apr 19, 2019 5:56 pm

Liriena wrote:
The South Falls wrote:Bro, I need some extra Soros money. Gimme.

I was promised lots of Sorosbucks for my degenerate leftist shitposting. But alas, Daddy George has failed to deliver. :(


Hey now. The check is in the mail.
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Postby Totally Not OEP » Fri Apr 19, 2019 5:57 pm

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was doused in a glitter-filled liquid after being repeatedly interrupted by shouting protesters for questioning transgenderism.


So he got glitterbombed and couldn't handle being heckled. Horrifying.


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Postby Des-Bal » Fri Apr 19, 2019 5:58 pm

The South Falls wrote:Because someone got glitterbombed? Hah.

Because someone was battered in an effort to suppress their speech yes.
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Postby Costa Fierro » Fri Apr 19, 2019 5:59 pm

The Black Forrest wrote:
Costa Fierro wrote:So he didn't say anything wrong but was still attacked by morons who wouldn't do the same if a feminist came out and blatantly said "men are not women".


You could have simply left it with: "So he didn't say anything wrong but was still attacked by morons"

Why wreck with with incel stuff?


Because it's true that modern feminism has a problem with transphobia? More to the point, calling it "incel stuff" doesn't detract from it, if anything it's a feeble attempt at discrediting my point. Not surprising coming from the likes of you though.

Jack Thomas Lang wrote:I'm curious to see the responses here if the script was flipped and a feminist speaker was assaulted in this manner by white conservative males.

I imagine a lot more outrage.


Funny thing is if a feminist speaker was saying "men are not women" there'd be no controversy whatsoever, and everyone on NSG would be falling over themselves to call the people that criticised it "incels".
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Postby Jack Thomas Lang » Fri Apr 19, 2019 6:02 pm

The South Falls wrote:Because someone got glitterbombed? Hah.

Yes actually. You might not care, and others might pretend not to.

But I get the feeling that people will be much less apologetic for the conservative white boys.

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Postby Scomagia » Fri Apr 19, 2019 6:03 pm

The South Falls wrote:
Jack Thomas Lang wrote:I'm curious to see the responses here if the script was flipped and a feminist speaker was assaulted in this manner by white conservative males.

I imagine a lot more outrage.

Because someone got glitterbombed? Hah.

I think if a male sprayed a feminist speaker with, say, milk, there'd be a bit of a hubbub.
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Postby The Black Forrest » Fri Apr 19, 2019 6:04 pm

Costa Fierro wrote:
The Black Forrest wrote:
You could have simply left it with: "So he didn't say anything wrong but was still attacked by morons"

Why wreck with with incel stuff?


Because it's true that modern feminism has a problem with transphobia? More to the point, calling it "incel stuff" doesn't detract from it, if anything it's a feeble attempt at discrediting my point. Not surprising coming from the likes of you though.


The victim card is boring. You made a valid point in the beginning and then lessened it.
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Postby Aglanen » Fri Apr 19, 2019 6:05 pm

Can’t help but think back to when Theodore Roosevelt got shot while making a speech. And by “shot” I mean with a real gun. And how he stood back up proclaiming “It’ll take more than that to kill a bull moose!” and continued the speech while getting the bullet surgically removed.

So wait, what was this about again? Some conservative getting glittered? OH THE HORROR! What a brave alpha conservative to speak the TRUTH in such dangerous times!
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Postby The South Falls » Fri Apr 19, 2019 6:07 pm

Des-Bal wrote:
The South Falls wrote:Because someone got glitterbombed? Hah.

Because someone was battered in an effort to suppress their speech yes.

And if someone did this do a democrat I would be fine.

They were not battered.
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Postby Gormwood » Fri Apr 19, 2019 6:08 pm

The Black Forrest wrote:
Costa Fierro wrote:
Because it's true that modern feminism has a problem with transphobia? More to the point, calling it "incel stuff" doesn't detract from it, if anything it's a feeble attempt at discrediting my point. Not surprising coming from the likes of you though.


The victim card is boring. You made a valid point in the beginning and then lessened it.

This is where a picture of Giorgio Tsoukalos with the caption "WOMEN" would be appropriate.
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Postby The Black Forrest » Fri Apr 19, 2019 6:09 pm

Gormwood wrote:
The Black Forrest wrote:
The victim card is boring. You made a valid point in the beginning and then lessened it.

This is where a picture of Giorgio Tsoukalos with the caption "WOMEN" would be appropriate.


Heh. I have seen the memes. Didn't know his name. Have to read now :)
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* I felt like Ayn Rand cornered me at a party, and three minutes in I found my first objection to what she was saying, but she kept talking without interruption for ten more days. - Max Barry talking about Atlas Shrugged

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Postby Jack Thomas Lang » Fri Apr 19, 2019 6:10 pm

Aglanen wrote:Can’t help but think back to when Theodore Roosevelt got shot while making a speech. And by “shot” I mean with a real gun. And how he stood back up proclaiming “It’ll take more than that to kill a bull moose!” and continued the speech while getting the bullet surgically removed.

So wait, what was this about again? Some conservative getting glittered? OH THE HORROR! What a brave alpha conservative to speak the TRUTH in such dangerous times!

This is a false equivalency if I've ever heard one. The only reason Roosevelt continued talking was because he realised the bullet wasn't fatal or immediately critical, since he wasn't coughing up blood. Not to forget that this conservative professor also continued talking, and took the heckling in good spirit.

Frankly I think that this sort of assault for such moderate views (men are not women, but they're equal, fucking duh) is unacceptable and petty. If he was a fascist, sure go ahead, but he wasn't.

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Postby Des-Bal » Fri Apr 19, 2019 6:10 pm

The Black Forrest wrote:
The victim card is boring. You made a valid point in the beginning and then lessened it.

If the exact same position adopted by someone of a different demographic and a adifferent leaning would e given a pass it suggests a profound dishonesty.
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Postby The Black Forrest » Fri Apr 19, 2019 6:11 pm

Des-Bal wrote:
The Black Forrest wrote:
The victim card is boring. You made a valid point in the beginning and then lessened it.

If the exact same position adopted by someone of a different demographic and a adifferent leaning would e given a pass it suggests a profound dishonesty.


Whodahwhatnow?
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* I felt like Ayn Rand cornered me at a party, and three minutes in I found my first objection to what she was saying, but she kept talking without interruption for ten more days. - Max Barry talking about Atlas Shrugged

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Postby Des-Bal » Fri Apr 19, 2019 6:15 pm

The Black Forrest wrote:
Whodahwhatnow?

He's made a valid case for this being tribalist bulls hit and dismissing it as "incel" isn't really adequate.
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Yes science is bullcrap, uh huh. So in that case I guess climate change, general relativity, etc. are also bullcrap, amirite?

Biological sex does exist and is a scientific fact, much to the chagrim of some fellow leftie identitarians here and those "Sex is just a social construct and therefore science is false!1!1!1" proponents. It's even outright stated in innumerable biological textbooks and wikipedia itself that you cannot change one's chromosome by sheer will or by surgically modifying your genital and bodily characteristics to fit your preferred identity, no matter how much one wishes, because AFAIK, genetic engineering isn't that advanced to allow for such a extensive procedure.
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Postby Des-Bal » Fri Apr 19, 2019 6:16 pm

The South Falls wrote:And if someone did this do a democrat I would be fine.

They were not battered.

Yes they were, this is purely an issue of knowing or not knowing the law.
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