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Des-Bal
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Postby Des-Bal » Fri Apr 19, 2019 12:51 pm

RiderSyl wrote:Harassment has to result in a hostile environment for the victim. The glittering didn't do that.

It's "offensive touching" by definition, especially since a non-harmful liquid was involved and not physical bodily contact. Some states charge that seperately, some put it as the absolute lowest form of simple assault. Missouri is obviously the latter.

You want to call it something without it sounding like more than it is, call it "offensive touching". If you don't care how it sounds, call it assault.


That's ridiculous. It's ridiculous for you to say spraying someone with liquid specifically because you dislike them and would like to make them uncomfortable is anything less than hostile.
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Postby North Arkana » Fri Apr 19, 2019 12:53 pm

Nazeroth wrote:
Telconi wrote:
An environment where I'm being squirted with some stupid shit seems hostile to me.


Wonder what excuse they will use when they throw something on a conservative speaker and the speaker is deathly allergic to what was thrown.

Maybe they'll copy the alt-right's playbook and say it's a heart attack from being overweight rather than getting hit by a car. :roll:
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Postby Nazeroth » Fri Apr 19, 2019 12:54 pm

North Arkana wrote:
Nazeroth wrote:
Wonder what excuse they will use when they throw something on a conservative speaker and the speaker is deathly allergic to what was thrown.

Maybe they'll copy the alt-right's playbook and say it's a heart attack from being overweight rather than getting hit by a car. :roll:


alt-right=/=regular conservative speakers
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Postby Telconi » Fri Apr 19, 2019 12:55 pm

Nazeroth wrote:
North Arkana wrote:Maybe they'll copy the alt-right's playbook and say it's a heart attack from being overweight rather than getting hit by a car. :roll:


alt-right=/=regular conservative speakers


Everyone to the right of Mao is literally Hitler and these people deserve to be harassed or worse for saying things that the tolerant liberals disagree with.
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Postby Nazeroth » Fri Apr 19, 2019 12:56 pm

Telconi wrote:
Nazeroth wrote:
alt-right=/=regular conservative speakers


Everyone to the right of Mao is literally Hitler and these people deserve to be harassed or worse for saying things that the tolerant liberals disagree with.


I mean, it sure seems that way sometimes, can't even put a Trump sticker on your car in the city without someone bashing it.
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Postby North Arkana » Fri Apr 19, 2019 12:57 pm

Nazeroth wrote:
North Arkana wrote:Maybe they'll copy the alt-right's playbook and say it's a heart attack from being overweight rather than getting hit by a car. :roll:


alt-right=/=regular conservative speakers

Regular conservative speakers should probably ask themselves why the alt-right likes them then.
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Postby Nazeroth » Fri Apr 19, 2019 12:58 pm

North Arkana wrote:
Nazeroth wrote:
alt-right=/=regular conservative speakers

Regular conservative speakers should probably ask themselves why the alt-right likes them then.


probably the same reason why Communists like Democrats

because they share SOME similar ideas.
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Postby Aureumterra » Fri Apr 19, 2019 12:58 pm

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North Arkana wrote:
Nazeroth wrote:
alt-right=/=regular conservative speakers

Regular conservative speakers should probably ask themselves why the alt-right likes them then.

Bernie Sanders should ask why ANTIFA likes him
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Postby Des-Bal » Fri Apr 19, 2019 12:59 pm

North Arkana wrote:Regular conservative speakers should probably ask themselves why the alt-right likes them then.


Maybe it's because certain people are using the same umbrella to describe people who engage in public speaking and who run people over with their cars? What are you doing except galvanizing people?
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Postby Telconi » Fri Apr 19, 2019 1:01 pm

North Arkana wrote:
Nazeroth wrote:
alt-right=/=regular conservative speakers

Regular conservative speakers should probably ask themselves why the alt-right likes them then.


Same reason commies like regular liberal speakers.
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Postby The Layfetian Republic » Fri Apr 19, 2019 1:01 pm

Nazeroth wrote:
North Arkana wrote:Maybe they'll copy the alt-right's playbook and say it's a heart attack from being overweight rather than getting hit by a car. :roll:


alt-right=/=regular conservative speakers


Fuck the right, fuck regular conservative speakers. Fuck the tolerant left. We need communism and we need it now

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Postby Bear Stearns » Fri Apr 19, 2019 1:02 pm

Vassenor wrote:
Nazeroth wrote:
The point is you don't get physical with people you disagree with when they are trying to exercise free speech

PERIOD


So why isn't there a similar push to get Unite the Right and the various groups under its umbrella declared terrorists as well?


There is...
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Postby Telconi » Fri Apr 19, 2019 1:03 pm

The Layfetian Republic wrote:
Nazeroth wrote:
alt-right=/=regular conservative speakers


Fuck the right, fuck regular conservative speakers. Fuck the tolerant left. We need communism and we need it now


And then there's this guy.
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Postby RiderSyl » Fri Apr 19, 2019 1:03 pm

Des-Bal wrote:
RiderSyl wrote:Actually, when you put your hands on someone but you didn't cause them harm, it's called "offensive touching".
I'm not even making that up. Go look it up.


Source? Because "offensive contact" is actually battery.


by intentionally touching, with a member of his or her body, or with any instrument, another person, knowing that the touching likely will cause offense or alarm to the other person

It's defined in my copy of Nolo's Plain-English Law Dictionary. Thought there would be a free online source too.
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Postby The Layfetian Republic » Fri Apr 19, 2019 1:03 pm

Bear Stearns wrote:
Vassenor wrote:
So why isn't there a similar push to get Unite the Right and the various groups under its umbrella declared terrorists as well?


There is...


Not. Especially with a fucking orange cheeto supporting them

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Postby North Arkana » Fri Apr 19, 2019 1:04 pm

Last I checked I, and Democrats/Liberals/"Socialists", were considered liberal sell-out rather than a true leftist by the actual Commies I've encountered, so we must be working under different definition. Considering the American Right's success in moving the spectrum to where social democrats are "commies" though, I'm not surprised.
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Postby Bear Stearns » Fri Apr 19, 2019 1:05 pm

The Layfetian Republic wrote:
Bear Stearns wrote:
There is...


Not. Especially with a fucking orange cheeto supporting them


Congress just had a hearing on white nationalism a week and a half ago where this very topic came up and was supported by politicians. It's a fairly common sentiment.
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Postby RiderSyl » Fri Apr 19, 2019 1:07 pm

Nazeroth wrote:
Telconi wrote:
Everyone to the right of Mao is literally Hitler and these people deserve to be harassed or worse for saying things that the tolerant liberals disagree with.


I mean, it sure seems that way sometimes, can't even put a Trump sticker on your car in the city without someone bashing it.


-Trump sticker
-in the city

Found your problem.
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Postby The Layfetian Republic » Fri Apr 19, 2019 1:07 pm

Bear Stearns wrote:
The Layfetian Republic wrote:
Not. Especially with a fucking orange cheeto supporting them


Congress just had a hearing on white nationalism a week and a half ago where this very topic came up and was supported by politicians. It's a fairly common sentiment.


Congress is in the pockets of fake leftists and asshole conservatives. Any action they take will be vetoed by the pissed on Russian puppet

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Postby Telconi » Fri Apr 19, 2019 1:07 pm

North Arkana wrote:Last I checked I, and Democrats/Liberals/"Socialists", were considered liberal sell-out rather than a true leftist by the actual Commies I've encountered, so we must be working under different definition. Considering the American Right's success in moving the spectrum to where social democrats are "commies" though, I'm not surprised.


Yeah and I got called a "n-word loving race traitor" by an actual neo-Nazi. Doesnt stop him from voting for the same politicians I do.
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Postby The Layfetian Republic » Fri Apr 19, 2019 1:08 pm

RiderSyl wrote:
Nazeroth wrote:
I mean, it sure seems that way sometimes, can't even put a Trump sticker on your car in the city without someone bashing it.


-Trump sticker
-in the city

Found your problem.


Trump period.
That's a problem

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Postby Nazeroth » Fri Apr 19, 2019 1:08 pm

RiderSyl wrote:
Nazeroth wrote:
I mean, it sure seems that way sometimes, can't even put a Trump sticker on your car in the city without someone bashing it.


-Trump sticker
-in the city

Found your problem.


I shouldn't have to be concerned about my window being bashed in...
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Postby Bear Stearns » Fri Apr 19, 2019 1:10 pm

Nazeroth wrote:
RiderSyl wrote:
-Trump sticker
-in the city

Found your problem.


I shouldn't have to be concerned about my window being bashed in...


That's too much to ask.
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Postby The Layfetian Republic » Fri Apr 19, 2019 1:10 pm

Nazeroth wrote:
RiderSyl wrote:
-Trump sticker
-in the city

Found your problem.


I shouldn't have to be concerned about my window being bashed in...


Unless you have a Trump sticker on your window

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Postby Nazeroth » Fri Apr 19, 2019 1:11 pm

Bear Stearns wrote:
Nazeroth wrote:
I shouldn't have to be concerned about my window being bashed in...


That's too much to ask.


the sad thing is...it' is to much to ask
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