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Postby Nazeroth » Fri Apr 19, 2019 11:43 am

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The point is you don't get physical with people you disagree with when they are trying to exercise free speech

PERIOD


So why isn't there a similar push to get Unite the Right and the various groups under its umbrella declared terrorists as well?


Unite the Right wasn't an organization, it was an EVENT
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Postby Medwind » Fri Apr 19, 2019 11:44 am

Ghosteria wrote:The guy who did that to him is lucky he didn't get shot. MO is a stand your ground state after all.

That's not the way it works, your statement is so disingenuous, it's nonsensical. There needs to be a threat to your life. If someone would have shot him, he would have been charged with murder, so get out of here with the attacks on peoples right to defend themselves please.

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Postby North Arkana » Fri Apr 19, 2019 11:44 am

Nazeroth wrote:
Vassenor wrote:
So why isn't there a similar push to get Unite the Right and the various groups under its umbrella declared terrorists as well?


Unite the Right wasn't an organization, it was an EVENT

You'd be hard pressed to call ANTIFA an actual organization by the same standards. Unless you're saying we should consider decentralized groups like ANTIFA, QAnon, and various other internet organized groups "organizations", in which case you open a whole can of worms into literal thought policing thanks to the decentralized nature of these groups.
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Postby RiderSyl » Fri Apr 19, 2019 11:45 am

LiberNovusAmericae wrote:
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AntiFA quite literally KILLS Brazilians of heroic right-wingers every day with bike-locks!!! Why does nobody stop them? They can't keep getting away with this!

I don't see how this sarcasm helps your cause. Just because antifa hasn't killed yet doesn't mean they should be beyond criticism for their misconduct.


You're one to talk about something not helping your cause. Choosing to make the "Antifa could kill" argument after a conservative speaker got squirted with glitter is doing more harm to your cause than an Antifa supporter saving a baby from a burning car would.
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Postby Torrocca » Fri Apr 19, 2019 11:46 am

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I am, duh. There is clearly no reason that those dumb AntiFA liberals should've gotten upset by this Ben Shapiro-esque HERO of a MAN utterly DESTROYING them and the ENTIRE TRANSGENDER COMMUNITY with FACTS and LOGIC. So clearly they should all be put in prison for life for supporting those silly transgendereds and their fake identities.


They should be put in prison for literally being terrorists.


Yes, because they are clearly KILLING everyone! AntiFA is quite clearly well known for being the deadliest terrorist organization in America!!!
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Postby Nazeroth » Fri Apr 19, 2019 11:46 am

North Arkana wrote:
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Unite the Right wasn't an organization, it was an EVENT

You'd be hard pressed to call ANTIFA an actual organization by the same standards. Unless you're saying we should consider decentralized groups like ANTIFA, QAnon, and various other internet organized groups "organizations", in which case you open a whole can of worms into literal thought policing thanks to the decentralized nature of these groups.


ANTIFA is a de-centralized organization, but they are still a organization

Unite the Right is no such thing and your comparing apples to jet engines

ANTIFA is a group of people

Unite the Right was an event

or is the Fourth of July now a organization?
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Postby Nazeroth » Fri Apr 19, 2019 11:47 am



You don't need to kill to be a terrorist organization, you just need to utilize Terror to further your political aims.
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Postby Torrocca » Fri Apr 19, 2019 11:47 am

LiberNovusAmericae wrote:
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AntiFA quite literally KILLS Brazilians of heroic right-wingers every day with bike-locks!!! Why does nobody stop them? They can't keep getting away with this!

I don't see how this sarcasm helps your cause. Just because antifa hasn't killed yet doesn't mean they should be beyond criticism for their misconduct.


AntiFA is quite LITERALLY the most dangerous terrorist organization in the entirety of this God blessed United States of America! You can clearly see so here:

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Postby RiderSyl » Fri Apr 19, 2019 11:47 am

Nazeroth wrote:or is the Fourth of July now a organization?

Good God, that man is made of straw!
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Postby Torrocca » Fri Apr 19, 2019 11:48 am

Nazeroth wrote:


You don't need to kill to be a terrorist organization, you just need to utilize Terror to further your political aims.


Lavender oil is literally 9/11 times 100!!! Let's militarize the police and hunt down America's Taliban, AKA AntiFA!
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Postby North Arkana » Fri Apr 19, 2019 11:48 am

Nazeroth wrote:
North Arkana wrote:You'd be hard pressed to call ANTIFA an actual organization by the same standards. Unless you're saying we should consider decentralized groups like ANTIFA, QAnon, and various other internet organized groups "organizations", in which case you open a whole can of worms into literal thought policing thanks to the decentralized nature of these groups.


ANTIFA is a de-centralized organization, but they are still a organization

Unite the Right is no such thing and your comparing apples to jet engines

ANTIFA is a group of people

Unite the Right was an event

or is the Fourth of July now a organization?

Wasn't referring to Unite the Right but the groups which organized it, but ok, I'll bite. I was talking about groups like Neo-Nazis, Neo-Confederates, White Supremacists, and the KKK who had a hand in organizing, but also the loose groups formed via things like the chan boards.
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Postby Mettaton-EX » Fri Apr 19, 2019 11:48 am

Inkopolitia wrote:
Mettaton-EX wrote:none of this is relevant to the point

It is because you keep blaming capitalism for the current state of Venezuela. That isn't the case, however.

an economy that is over two-thirds private-sector is capitalist. words mean things.

An authoritarian shithole with no regards to personal freedoms (and privately-owned businesses) and blatant disregard for it's citizens while they keep stealing the money to put it in their pockets turned Venezuela into what is today. It reminds me of most communist countries.

it reminds me of the u.s.
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Postby Liriena » Fri Apr 19, 2019 11:49 am

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Liriena wrote:I feel a bit hurt by your distrust... but here you go.

"No more vengeance" and "Child mothers with capital letters".

Even with the language barrier (weakened but not removed by Google Translate) I can tell the latter is... quite bad.

It was a pretty awful day to be anti-abortion on Twitter, that's for sure. A lot of anti-abortion pundits and activists had to come out against it (even though it later turned out that many agreed with it), and even Unicef started tweeting some very harsh criticism.

Proctopeo wrote:The former's harder to gauge (it does sound controversial), though I have to wonder how and why arrests for crimes in the 70s and 80s are happening in the 2010s instead of the late 80s or early 90s..

Well, that's because, in the late 80s and 90s, there were a series of laws in place which prohibited further prosecutions for those crimes. Namely, the "full stop law", which established a very strict statute of limitations on the dictatorship's crimes, and the "due obedience law", which argued that anyone under the rank of colonel who was involved in human rights violations was presumed to have only been following orders and therefor could not be prosecuted. And on top of that, in the 90s, Menem pardoned a bunch of those who got convicted. The laws were finally repealed in the 2000s under Kirchner, and so investigations, arrests and trials resumed.
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Postby Nazeroth » Fri Apr 19, 2019 11:49 am

North Arkana wrote:
Nazeroth wrote:
ANTIFA is a de-centralized organization, but they are still a organization

Unite the Right is no such thing and your comparing apples to jet engines

ANTIFA is a group of people

Unite the Right was an event

or is the Fourth of July now a organization?

Wasn't referring to Unite the Right but the groups which organized it, but ok, I'll bite. I was talking about groups like Neo-Nazis, Neo-Confederates, White Supremacists, and the KKK who had a hand in organizing, but also the loose groups formed via things like the chan boards.


I mean sure if we want to get retarded let's get retarded

ANTIFA is decentralized and we don't want to open that can? fine, then the Klan and other organizations(whom have multiple chapters) are just as innocent.
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Postby LiberNovusAmericae » Fri Apr 19, 2019 11:50 am

RiderSyl wrote:
LiberNovusAmericae wrote:I don't see how this sarcasm helps your cause. Just because antifa hasn't killed yet doesn't mean they should be beyond criticism for their misconduct.


You're one to talk about something not helping your cause. Choosing to make the "Antifa could kill" argument after a conservative speaker got squirted with glitter is doing more harm to your cause than an Antifa supporter saving a baby from a burning car would.

Edit: apparently I did. My bad. I didn't intend to word it like that. :blush:
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Postby Medwind » Fri Apr 19, 2019 11:50 am

Torrocca wrote:
Nazeroth wrote:
You don't need to kill to be a terrorist organization, you just need to utilize Terror to further your political aims.


Lavender oil is literally 9/11 times 100!!! Let's militarize the police and hunt down America's Taliban, AKA AntiFA!


And you guys talk about strawmen lmao smh.

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Postby Cekoviu » Fri Apr 19, 2019 11:50 am

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Fox News is clearly a Communist propaganda site, and the only factual news sources are Breitbart and InfoWars.



Who's being sarcastic here? It's quite clear that this noble crusader of the True Gender cause could've DIED from some lavender oils! I've heard of it happening before, after all!

So you think that assault is acceptable political action?

When the assault is with lavender oil and glitter, sure. Completely harmless.
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Postby Nazeroth » Fri Apr 19, 2019 11:51 am

Cekoviu wrote:
Genivaria wrote:So you think that assault is acceptable political action?

When the assault is with lavender oil and glitter, sure. Completely harmless.


I mean urine is sterile :roll:
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Postby North Arkana » Fri Apr 19, 2019 11:51 am

Nazeroth wrote:
North Arkana wrote:Wasn't referring to Unite the Right but the groups which organized it, but ok, I'll bite. I was talking about groups like Neo-Nazis, Neo-Confederates, White Supremacists, and the KKK who had a hand in organizing, but also the loose groups formed via things like the chan boards.


I mean sure if we want to get retarded let's get retarded

ANTIFA is decentralized and we don't want to open that can? fine, then the Klan and other organizations(whom have multiple chapters) are just as innocent.

Not really no. Then you investigate and prosecute on a case by case basis. You don't throw all klansmen into the prison any more than you throw all Antifa into prison. Of course unlike Antifa the klan has chapter organization, meaning there's it actually an organizational structure to go after.
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Postby Cekoviu » Fri Apr 19, 2019 11:52 am

Nazeroth wrote:
Cekoviu wrote:When the assault is with lavender oil and glitter, sure. Completely harmless.


I mean urine is sterile :roll:

Don't see how that's relevant or in any way connected to the use of cooking ingredients/oils as a political statement.
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Postby Far Easter Republic » Fri Apr 19, 2019 11:52 am

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Liriena wrote:What? You expect right-wing fearmongering about le evil antifa SJW supersoldiers out to kill all cishet white centrist bois to be based on honest reporting?

No.

I do like how OP says that the students interrupting and screaming is violence.
Vocal violence, maybe.

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Postby RiderSyl » Fri Apr 19, 2019 11:52 am

Nazeroth wrote:
Cekoviu wrote:When the assault is with lavender oil and glitter, sure. Completely harmless.


I mean urine is sterile :roll:

95% sterile, 5% pure toxic waste.
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Postby Torrocca » Fri Apr 19, 2019 11:53 am

Medwind wrote:
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Lavender oil is literally 9/11 times 100!!! Let's militarize the police and hunt down America's Taliban, AKA AntiFA!


And you guys talk about strawmen lmao smh.


I'm clearly defending this brave Conservative hero from these cucked AntiFA terrorist thug vigilantes with their WMD chemical weapon that is lavender oil. That's quite clearly terrorism, duh.
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Postby Nazeroth » Fri Apr 19, 2019 11:53 am

RiderSyl wrote:
Nazeroth wrote:
I mean urine is sterile :roll:

95% sterile, 5% pure toxic waste.


Pretty damn clean
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