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Saciu wrote:

Agarntrop wrote:I don't know the ins and outs of your situation but I hope you can gain the confidence to come out someday. After all, to use a cliché, fortune favours the brave. Plus, if they don't expect it, then you could shatter some of their stereotypes about transgender people.

I'm currently in the midst of coming out - in a couple of weeks, I might be completely out. Anyway, thanks.

Good luck!

Saciu wrote:

Kowani wrote:Not quite trans news, but since we don’t have an LGBT+ thread, I figured it’d fit here more than anywhere: Billy Dee Williams, the actor who played Lando Calrissian comes out as gender fluid.

One of the main criticisms of some of the more liberal parts of LGBT is the idea is that most people not on the binary are millenials/gen z who are afab. Given that Williams is an amab octogenarian, this could be great for the community. Still, I imagine they'll get harassed about it, which is a same.

I don’t know what either of those things mean.

Kowani wrote:

Saciu wrote:I'm currently in the midst of coming out - in a couple of weeks, I might be completely out. Anyway, thanks.

Good luck!

Saciu wrote:One of the main criticisms of some of the more liberal parts of LGBT is the idea is that most people not on the binary are millenials/gen z who are afab. Given that Williams is an amab octogenarian, this could be great for the community. Still, I imagine they'll get harassed about it, which is a same.

I don’t know what either of those things mean.

afab and amab mean "assigned (female/male) at birth."
At least, I think those are the words you're referring to.

Necroghastia wrote:

Kowani wrote:Good luck!



I don’t know what either of those things mean.

afab and amab mean "assigned (female/male) at birth."
At least, I think those are the words you're referring to.

Ah. Thank you.

Bananamilkshake wrote:Hello! I'm Liam, and I'm a trans man from Ireland. I haven't come out to most people, mostly just because I'm worried how they'd react, and I did talk to a gp who said she'd get back to me but she never did. I'm thinking of calling up and making another appointment with her, in case she'd just forgotten to call me.

I wish I was brae enough to just post all this on facebook and be done with it.

Welcome! And yeah, that sounds like the best course of action to take.

Saciu wrote:

Agarntrop wrote:Why couldn't you write yourself as female?

I'm not quite out enough, and I was too nervous about putting "female" and having teachers find out about it.

Out of curiosity, what is a BMO1?

The Rich Port wrote:

Saciu wrote:I'm not quite out enough, and I was too nervous about putting "female" and having teachers find out about it.

Sounds about right, you made the call that was right for you. At the same time, it's pretty obvious that bothers you. You should take some steps forward. Baby steps are still steps.

I agree.

Maybe you should talk to the school counselor. They're obligated by their codes of ethics to maintain your privacy so long as you're not a danger to yourself or to others, which means you can sue them for money if they're morons and blurt your secrets because they ran out of gossip topics. Having a couple dozen grand in your bank account is a good pick-me-up.

I think in some back-asswards jurisdictions, they're required to out you to your parents if you tell them.

Agarntrop wrote:

Saciu wrote:I'm not quite out enough, and I was too nervous about putting "female" and having teachers find out about it.

I don't know the ins and outs of your situation but I hope you can gain the confidence to come out someday. After all, to use a cliché, fortune favours the brave. Plus, if they don't expect it, then you could shatter some of their stereotypes about transgender people.

I always thought the cliche was "Fortune favors the bold".

Kowani wrote:Not quite trans news, but since we don’t have an LGBT+ thread, I figured it’d fit here more than anywhere: Billy Dee Williams, the actor who played Lando Calrissian comes out as gender fluid.

I'd classify that as trans news. Also, fuck yeah! Time to get reacquainted with the cool side of the pillow.

Saciu wrote:

Agarntrop wrote:I don't know the ins and outs of your situation but I hope you can gain the confidence to come out someday. After all, to use a cliché, fortune favours the brave. Plus, if they don't expect it, then you could shatter some of their stereotypes about transgender people.

I'm currently in the midst of coming out - in a couple of weeks, I might be completely out. Anyway, thanks.

I wish you the best of luck.

Saciu wrote:

Kowani wrote:Not quite trans news, but since we don’t have an LGBT+ thread, I figured it’d fit here more than anywhere: Billy Dee Williams, the actor who played Lando Calrissian comes out as gender fluid.

One of the main criticisms of some of the more liberal parts of LGBT is the idea is that most people not on the binary are millenials/gen z who are afab. Given that Williams is an amab octogenarian, this could be great for the community. Still, I imagine they'll get harassed about it, which is a same.

Indeed, but I don't think they've gotten this far in life, especially as a black person, without some undue harrassment, so I think they can handle it. As they said regarding shit people in the new Star Wars sequels are getting:

“You’re always going to have people making stupid comments,”

Grenartia wrote:

Bananamilkshake wrote:Hello! I'm Liam, and I'm a trans man from Ireland. I haven't come out to most people, mostly just because I'm worried how they'd react, and I did talk to a gp who said she'd get back to me but she never did. I'm thinking of calling up and making another appointment with her, in case she'd just forgotten to call me.

I wish I was brae enough to just post all this on facebook and be done with it.

Welcome! And yeah, that sounds like the best course of action to take.

Saciu wrote:I'm not quite out enough, and I was too nervous about putting "female" and having teachers find out about it.

Out of curiosity, what is a BMO1?

The Rich Port wrote:
Sounds about right, you made the call that was right for you. At the same time, it's pretty obvious that bothers you. You should take some steps forward. Baby steps are still steps.

I agree.

Maybe you should talk to the school counselor. They're obligated by their codes of ethics to maintain your privacy so long as you're not a danger to yourself or to others, which means you can sue them for money if they're morons and blurt your secrets because they ran out of gossip topics. Having a couple dozen grand in your bank account is a good pick-me-up.

I think in some back-asswards jurisdictions, they're required to out you to your parents if you tell them.

Agarntrop wrote:I don't know the ins and outs of your situation but I hope you can gain the confidence to come out someday. After all, to use a cliché, fortune favours the brave. Plus, if they don't expect it, then you could shatter some of their stereotypes about transgender people.

I always thought the cliche was "Fortune favors the bold".

Kowani wrote:Not quite trans news, but since we don’t have an LGBT+ thread, I figured it’d fit here more than anywhere: Billy Dee Williams, the actor who played Lando Calrissian comes out as gender fluid.

I'd classify that as trans news. Also, fuck yeah! Time to get reacquainted with the cool side of the pillow.

Saciu wrote:I'm currently in the midst of coming out - in a couple of weeks, I might be completely out. Anyway, thanks.

I wish you the best of luck.

Saciu wrote:One of the main criticisms of some of the more liberal parts of LGBT is the idea is that most people not on the binary are millenials/gen z who are afab. Given that Williams is an amab octogenarian, this could be great for the community. Still, I imagine they'll get harassed about it, which is a same.

Indeed, but I don't think they've gotten this far in life, especially as a black person, without some undue harrassment, so I think they can handle it. As they said regarding shit people in the new Star Wars sequels are getting:

“You’re always going to have people making stupid comments,”

BMO1 is the British Mathematical Olympiad Round 1. 1000 of the best British students in years 10-13 partake in the test.
My school's learning support is aware and (although I'm in what may well be the second most conservative county in England), they're fine with it. They're not aware that I'm now out to the other students, though.

Saciu wrote:

Grenartia wrote:
Welcome! And yeah, that sounds like the best course of action to take.



Out of curiosity, what is a BMO1?



I agree.



I think in some back-asswards jurisdictions, they're required to out you to your parents if you tell them.



I always thought the cliche was "Fortune favors the bold".



I'd classify that as trans news. Also, fuck yeah! Time to get reacquainted with the cool side of the pillow.



I wish you the best of luck.



Indeed, but I don't think they've gotten this far in life, especially as a black person, without some undue harrassment, so I think they can handle it. As they said regarding shit people in the new Star Wars sequels are getting:

BMO1 is the British Mathematical Olympiad Round 1. 1000 of the best British students in years 10-13 partake in the test.
My school's learning support is aware and (although I'm in what may well be the second most conservative county in England), they're fine with it. They're not aware that I'm now out to the other students, though.

I see. So its really just your teachers you're concerned about. That's valid. BTW, hope you math well. Is it calculus, or just less advanced math?

Title and poll have been updated once again. Didn't get any suggestions for either, so I just winged it. Interesting results on the last one. 30% of respondents were cis and didn't understand the reason for Trans Day of Remembrance. 0% of trans respondents said the same.

"I am cis: it/its"?

Cekoviu wrote:"I am cis: it/its"?

Robot?

Proctopeo wrote:

Cekoviu wrote:"I am cis: it/its"?

Robot?

I too read "cis" and immediately think of the Confederacy of Independent Systems.

Cekoviu wrote:"I am cis: it/its"?

There's probably at least one sincere one. And half a dozen attack helicopter copypasters who'd use it.

I'm OK with transgender people but there are only 3 genders Male, female, and bishreksual

Cekoviu wrote:"I am cis: it/its"?

I mean, why not?

I wish I could have picked multiple options, but she/her is main these days. I also use they/them, I'm a theydy.

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Judaist Frankia wrote:I'm OK with transgender people but there are only 3 genders Male, female, and bishreksual

Please, get a new joke already, for the love of Odin.

Cis people have like two jokes and they're both sooo bad! It's either "I identify as silly thing" and "did you just assume my gender".

Auzkhia wrote:

Cekoviu wrote:"I am cis: it/its"?

I mean, why not?

I wish I could have picked multiple options, but she/her is main these days. I also use they/them, I'm a theydy.

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Judaist Frankia wrote:I'm OK with transgender people but there are only 3 genders Male, female, and bishreksual

Please, get a new joke already, for the love of Odin.

Cis people have like two jokes and they're both sooo bad! It's either "I identify as silly thing" and "did you just assume my gender".

Actually, I'll give them credit for saying 3. And I honestly did forget to enable multiple votes. Not sure how many I should allow, though.

The fact that so many of you lack pronouns in your bio is disgraceful, how dare you.

Auzkhia wrote:

Cekoviu wrote:"I am cis: it/its"?

I mean, why not?

It's dehumanizing and confusing?

Cekoviu wrote:

Auzkhia wrote:I mean, why not?

It's dehumanizing and confusing?

Good point but I've met a fair share of people who actually use it/it's pronouns.

Servilis wrote:

Cekoviu wrote:It's dehumanizing and confusing?

Good point but I've met a fair share of people who actually use it/it's pronouns.

That's literally the only reason I included that option.

Grenartia wrote:

Saciu wrote:BMO1 is the British Mathematical Olympiad Round 1. 1000 of the best British students in years 10-13 partake in the test.
My school's learning support is aware and (although I'm in what may well be the second most conservative county in England), they're fine with it. They're not aware that I'm now out to the other students, though.

I see. So its really just your teachers you're concerned about. That's valid. BTW, hope you math well. Is it calculus, or just less advanced math?

https://bmos.ukmt.org.uk/home/bmo.shtml#bmo1 Here are some of the past papers to give you an idea. Anyway, the fact that it's a highly prestigious national competition seems to set off my dysphoria.

I'm confused as to how one can be cis and use differing pronouns (ignoring my skepticism of pronouns other than he/she/they).

Saciu wrote:I'm confused as to how one can be cis and use differing pronouns (ignoring my skepticism of pronouns other than he/she/they).

Well I guess if that's how someone chooses to be addressed...

Cekoviu wrote:

Auzkhia wrote:I mean, why not?

It's dehumanizing and confusing?

Doesn't sound dehumanizing. Dehumanizing is more like threating to enslave or segregate those who you call subhuman

Servilis wrote:The fact that so many of you lack pronouns in your bio is disgraceful, how dare you.

Is this memes?

Dumb Ideologies wrote:

Servilis wrote:The fact that so many of you lack pronouns in your bio is disgraceful, how dare you.

Is this memes?

Hardly.

Nakena wrote:

Dumb Ideologies wrote:
Is this memes?

Hardly.

Huh. Then today's pronouns will have to be eh/what/really?