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Postby Uiiop » Wed Oct 16, 2019 3:26 pm

Mettaton-EX wrote:
Jean-Paul Sartre wrote:They anti- or pro-truscum, then?


take a wild guess
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edit. how do you make images smaller

The mods seems to base on "Decorum" rather than "support" per se.
Outright posting links to them saying Tru scum and only regretting the word choice.
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Postby Nakena » Wed Oct 16, 2019 6:07 pm

Mettaton-EX wrote:r/contrapoints now autofiltering all posts with the word "truscum" in them lmao


It's a stupid neologism that belongs into the dumpster. Kek.

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Postby Necroghastia » Wed Oct 16, 2019 6:09 pm

Nakena wrote:
Mettaton-EX wrote:r/contrapoints now autofiltering all posts with the word "truscum" in them lmao


It's a stupid neologism that belongs into the dumpster. Kek.


Kek is one of those, definitely. Not sure what that has to do with the quoted post though.
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Postby Nakena » Wed Oct 16, 2019 6:11 pm

Necroghastia wrote:
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It's a stupid neologism that belongs into the dumpster. Kek.


Kek is one of those, definitely. Not sure what that has to do with the quoted post though.


Kek fell out of favor years ago. Its an severely outdated meme.

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Postby Uiiop » Wed Oct 16, 2019 9:30 pm

Apparently the Subreddit actually kinda agrees with that Contra fucked up(Even if she also blames "Drama obsessed communities").
She just 1. Have the internet harass her and feels that they can't harass if they can't call her scum. 2. Thinks in the big picture that decorum will somehow make people see transmediclist(I'm only using that term out of concern for the forum rules) and other persecution complexs are false.

Still very ugh if a sympathetic ugh. Since i can believe at least in some third party(There was a brigade from r/drama i heard) just taking as an excuse to be shitty.
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Postby Nakena » Wed Oct 16, 2019 11:11 pm

I predicted it weeks (and pages) ago that parts of her community and base would turn against her in the long run.

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Postby Dumb Ideologies » Wed Oct 16, 2019 11:18 pm

Mettaton-EX wrote:r/contrapoints now autofiltering all posts with the word "truscum" in them lmao


Possibly better if anyone who used the words "truscum" or "transtrender" was thrown into an autoblender instead, but the internet isn't quite there on the tech yet.

I'm not usually one for outright banning words without context. However, I've spoken before about the vaguenesses/double-use where they're both often used as slurs for anyone who doesn't quite agree with your position and, because of the intensely personal nature of identity here, the trans community isn't capable at this juncture of having a productive conversation about the issues around them. It's all passive-aggressive "I'm being attacked", "no, I am!" etc etc, and them being in circulation severely hinders the prospects of good conversation or a healthy community because it's just creates a constant cycle of explosions and behind-the-scenes bitching where everyone starts to hate each other more and more.

In an environment that contains a lot of trans people, using these words is like chucking a cheap 3D-printed grenade into the conversation. Maybe it won't go off this time, but we've done enough cycles of this recently that anyone who does it must know exactly what they're playing with. Learn how to turn them into fleshy smoothies already, reddit.
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Postby Great Confederacy of Commonwealth States » Thu Oct 17, 2019 2:27 am

Nakena wrote:I predicted it weeks (and pages) ago that parts of her community and base would turn against her in the long run.

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Postby Jean-Paul Sartre » Thu Oct 17, 2019 7:09 am

Nakena wrote:I predicted it weeks (and pages) ago that parts of her community and base would turn against her in the long run.

The trans community on reddit is full of drama-obsessed immature pricks. It was inevitable.
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Postby Ifreann » Thu Oct 17, 2019 7:30 am

Jean-Paul Sartre wrote:
Nakena wrote:I predicted it weeks (and pages) ago that parts of her community and base would turn against her in the long run.

The trans community on reddit is full of drama-obsessed immature pricks. It was inevitable.

FTFY
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Postby Jean-Paul Sartre » Thu Oct 17, 2019 9:29 am

Ifreann wrote:
Jean-Paul Sartre wrote:The trans community on reddit is full of drama-obsessed immature pricks. It was inevitable.

FTFY

True in general, but I’ve noticed it with the trans community especially.
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Postby Evil Dictators Happyland » Thu Oct 17, 2019 9:34 am

Ifreann wrote:
Jean-Paul Sartre wrote:The trans community on reddit is full of drama-obsessed immature pricks. It was inevitable.

FTFY

Isn't the entire Internet full of drama-obsessed immature pricks?

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Postby Dumb Ideologies » Thu Oct 17, 2019 11:28 am

Jean-Paul Sartre wrote:
Ifreann wrote:FTFY

True in general, but I’ve noticed it with the trans community especially.


Trans and cis are natural enemies! Like trans and truscum! Or trans and trenders! Or trans and traps! Or trans and other trans who aren't really "off" on trans issues but have the slight whiff of not being radical left-libertarians.

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DAMN TRANNIES! THEY RUINED TRANSYLVANIA!
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Postby Auzkhia » Thu Oct 17, 2019 12:06 pm

Dumb Ideologies wrote:
Jean-Paul Sartre wrote:True in general, but I’ve noticed it with the trans community especially.


Trans and cis are natural enemies! Like trans and truscum! Or trans and trenders! Or trans and traps! Or trans and other trans who aren't really "off" on trans issues but have the slight whiff of not being radical left-libertarians.

...

DAMN TRANNIES! THEY RUINED TRANSYLVANIA!

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Postby Hediacrana » Thu Oct 17, 2019 12:10 pm

Auzkhia wrote:
Dumb Ideologies wrote:
Trans and cis are natural enemies! Like trans and truscum! Or trans and trenders! Or trans and traps! Or trans and other trans who aren't really "off" on trans issues but have the slight whiff of not being radical left-libertarians.

...

DAMN TRANNIES! THEY RUINED TRANSYLVANIA!

*clap emoji*

Don't say you're Transylvanian unless you're transsexual and from Pennsylvania! :P


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Postby Nakena » Thu Oct 17, 2019 2:10 pm

Great Confederacy of Commonwealth States wrote:
Nakena wrote:I predicted it weeks (and pages) ago that parts of her community and base would turn against her in the long run.

I predict the sun will rise in the East and I want praise when it happens.


I am delighted that your appriciation for me was such, that you decided to become active in this thread.

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Postby Grenartia » Thu Oct 17, 2019 2:15 pm

I find it interesting to note that this month started off talking about Buck Angel and Natalie Wynn, and we'll likely end it talking about them as well.
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Postby Luminesa » Thu Oct 17, 2019 2:42 pm

Nakena wrote:
Necroghastia wrote:
Kek is one of those, definitely. Not sure what that has to do with the quoted post though.


Kek fell out of favor years ago. Its an severely outdated meme.

> Sees a severely-outdated meme.
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Postby Luminesa » Thu Oct 17, 2019 2:44 pm

Evil Dictators Happyland wrote:
Risastorstein wrote:Gender seems complicated because the basic terms aren't well defined to begin with... If man/male were only biological and if we used masc for gender, it would be so much clearer.

What if - and I'm just spitballing here - we used man/male for gender and masculine for sex, since not many people need to differentiate between the two on a day to day basis?

I get the feeling this is really splitting hairs.
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Postby Ifreann » Thu Oct 17, 2019 5:25 pm

Dumb Ideologies wrote:
Jean-Paul Sartre wrote:True in general, but I’ve noticed it with the trans community especially.


Trans and cis are natural enemies! Like trans and truscum! Or trans and trenders! Or trans and traps! Or trans and other trans who aren't really "off" on trans issues but have the slight whiff of not being radical left-libertarians.

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DAMN TRANNIES! THEY RUINED TRANSYLVANIA!

You transes sure are a contentious bunch.
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Postby Cekoviu » Thu Oct 17, 2019 5:34 pm

Ifreann wrote:
Dumb Ideologies wrote:
Trans and cis are natural enemies! Like trans and truscum! Or trans and trenders! Or trans and traps! Or trans and other trans who aren't really "off" on trans issues but have the slight whiff of not being radical left-libertarians.

...

DAMN TRANNIES! THEY RUINED TRANSYLVANIA!

You transes sure are a contentious bunch.

Excuse me, the correct plural is "transы".
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Postby Vassenor » Fri Oct 18, 2019 1:26 am

Ifreann wrote:
Dumb Ideologies wrote:
Trans and cis are natural enemies! Like trans and truscum! Or trans and trenders! Or trans and traps! Or trans and other trans who aren't really "off" on trans issues but have the slight whiff of not being radical left-libertarians.

...

DAMN TRANNIES! THEY RUINED TRANSYLVANIA!

You transes sure are a contentious bunch.


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Postby The Blaatschapen » Fri Oct 18, 2019 1:33 am

Dumb Ideologies wrote:
Jean-Paul Sartre wrote:True in general, but I’ve noticed it with the trans community especially.


Trans and cis are natural enemies! Like trans and truscum! Or trans and trenders! Or trans and traps! Or trans and other trans who aren't really "off" on trans issues but have the slight whiff of not being radical left-libertarians.

...

DAMN TRANNIES! THEY RUINED TRANSYLVANIA!


Always this European angle. No love for Ciskei and Transkei?
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Transkei
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ciskei
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Postby Mettaton-EX » Fri Oct 18, 2019 4:59 am

Cekoviu wrote:
Ifreann wrote:You transes sure are a contentious bunch.

Excuse me, the correct plural is "transы".

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Postby Proctopeo » Fri Oct 18, 2019 10:14 am

LTTP on some things 'cause I took a break from NS, but...

Mettaton-EX wrote:so it turns out the new contrapoints video includes a collaboration with buck angel, who outed lana wachowski to the tabloid press against her will, who commiserates with terfs about the "transgender agenda" and trans "cult behaviour", and who posted a fawning obituary of terf cultist magdalen berns (edit: he also thinks trans and nonbinary people can't be lesbians)

i don't think contrapoints actively hates nonbinary and nonpassing trans people, but at what point is it okay to say she doesn't care about us? the harassment some of my friends get for criticizing her continues to get worse and worse, i've seen more than one person be pushed off of twitter.

I don't see a problem with the linked tweets... there's definite cult behavior in the trans community, and the vicious response to Contra collaborating with him just provides credibility to this point.

Maybe you could email Contra a list of "acceptable" activists so she never makes this "mistake" again?

Auzkhia wrote:I don't think my gender is one point in the spectrum but rather an entire range sliding along many points.

Feminine of center, sure, but also sometimes androgynous, neutrois, or agender, sometimes it feels like "anything but my assigned gender". I think the simplest way to describe it is as genderfae demigirl. Here, genderfae means genderfluid that is never male or masc.

what the fuck am I reading

well
actually I'm not too surprised
romanticization of "not being masculine" is all too frequent, as are totally ridiculous constructions

Mettaton-EX wrote:
Jean-Paul Sartre wrote:They anti- or pro-truscum, then?


take a wild guess
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I fail to see anything wrong with it, as it literally means "true scum". It's a cheap pejorative, not even a creative one.
This goes double since I knew the person who came up with "truscum" and "tucute" and she was a horrible person. I bring her up a lot because her legacy still lives on and it annoys me.
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