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Postby Cekoviu » Sun Aug 11, 2019 5:50 pm

Springfeal wrote:
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Gassing people with a cloud of unearned smugness is a crime against humanity.


My gas is the gas of truth.

Gross.
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Postby Cekoviu » Sun Aug 11, 2019 5:51 pm

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The New California Republic wrote:It's a crime, so no. ;)


Just as what you are defending is a crime against the truth.

The truth is not a legally protected class or something against which you can commit a crime.
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Postby Torrocca » Sun Aug 11, 2019 5:51 pm

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I am just saying, no matter what you do, you can't change what you truly are. Same with the cars.

You think so? Because workers for Dodge and various other companies took raw materials and step by step transformed them into a 1968 Dodge Charger, and with enough time and some tools any determined person could turn that car into scrap. If I presented you with a pile of scrap, would you call it a Dodge Charger? Would you call it raw iron ore? Do you imagine that there were metals buried in the Earth, there for billions of years, that were somehow always truly a Dodge Charger?


Whoa, now, Iffy, are you saying these factory workers took raw materials and... transformed them... into a vehicle that didn't previously exist?! Say it isn't so!
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Postby Springfeal » Sun Aug 11, 2019 5:51 pm

Ifreann wrote:
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I am just saying, no matter what you do, you can't change what you truly are. Same with the cars.

You think so? Because workers for Dodge and various other companies took raw materials and step by step transformed them into a 1968 Dodge Charger, and with enough time and some tools any determined person could turn that car into scrap. If I presented you with a pile of scrap, would you call it a Dodge Charger? Would you call it raw iron ore? Do you imagine that there were metals buried in the Earth, there for billions of years, that were somehow always truly a Dodge Charger?


It would be a pile of scrap, but not a Geo Metro. Just as a dead guy is a corpse, not a live woman.

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Postby The New California Republic » Sun Aug 11, 2019 5:51 pm

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The New California Republic wrote:It's a crime, so no. ;)


Just as what you are defending is a crime against the truth.

That probably sounded better in your head than it does actually written down. Written down, it's just cringe.
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Postby Torrocca » Sun Aug 11, 2019 5:51 pm

Springfeal wrote:
Ifreann wrote:You think so? Because workers for Dodge and various other companies took raw materials and step by step transformed them into a 1968 Dodge Charger, and with enough time and some tools any determined person could turn that car into scrap. If I presented you with a pile of scrap, would you call it a Dodge Charger? Would you call it raw iron ore? Do you imagine that there were metals buried in the Earth, there for billions of years, that were somehow always truly a Dodge Charger?


It would be a pile of scrap, but not a Geo Metro. Just as a dead guy is a corpse, not a live woman.


Luckily for us, trans women aren't dead guys, but living women.
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Postby Cekoviu » Sun Aug 11, 2019 5:52 pm

The New California Republic wrote:
Springfeal wrote:
Just as what you are defending is a crime against the truth.

That probably sounded better in your head than it does actually written down. Written down, it's just cringe.

Did you expect anything more at this point?
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Postby Springfeal » Sun Aug 11, 2019 5:52 pm

Cekoviu wrote:
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Just as what you are defending is a crime against the truth.

The truth is not a legally protected class or something against which you can commit a crime.


Doesn't change the fact that what you are advocating is nothing short of deceit. When am I going to face any real arguments here?

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Postby Torrocca » Sun Aug 11, 2019 5:53 pm

Springfeal wrote:
Cekoviu wrote:The truth is not a legally protected class or something against which you can commit a crime.


Doesn't change the fact that what you are advocating is nothing short of deceit. When am I going to face any real arguments here?


Probably around the same time you make a real argument, hun.
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Postby Springfeal » Sun Aug 11, 2019 5:53 pm

Torrocca wrote:
Springfeal wrote:
It would be a pile of scrap, but not a Geo Metro. Just as a dead guy is a corpse, not a live woman.


Luckily for us, trans women aren't dead guys, but living women.


Artificial women, yes.

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Postby The New California Republic » Sun Aug 11, 2019 5:53 pm

Cekoviu wrote:
The New California Republic wrote:That probably sounded better in your head than it does actually written down. Written down, it's just cringe.

Did you expect anything more at this point?

Especially with that cringeable gas comment earlier, not really. :lol2:
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The Irradiated Wasteland of The New California Republic: depicting the expanded NCR, several years after the total victory over Caesar's Legion, and the annexation of New Vegas and its surrounding areas.

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They're hoping soon, my kind will drop and die
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Postby Torrocca » Sun Aug 11, 2019 5:53 pm

Springfeal wrote:
Torrocca wrote:
Luckily for us, trans women aren't dead guys, but living women.


Artificial women, yes.


Nope. Real women.
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Postby The New California Republic » Sun Aug 11, 2019 5:54 pm

Springfeal wrote:
Cekoviu wrote:The truth is not a legally protected class or something against which you can commit a crime.


Doesn't change the fact that what you are advocating is nothing short of deceit. When am I going to face any real arguments here?

Round about the time you start providing some. ;)
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The Irradiated Wasteland of The New California Republic: depicting the expanded NCR, several years after the total victory over Caesar's Legion, and the annexation of New Vegas and its surrounding areas.

White-collared conservatives flashing down the street
Pointing their plastic finger at me
They're hoping soon, my kind will drop and die
But I'm going to wave my freak flag high
Wave on, wave on
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Postby Springfeal » Sun Aug 11, 2019 5:54 pm

Torrocca wrote:
Springfeal wrote:
Doesn't change the fact that what you are advocating is nothing short of deceit. When am I going to face any real arguments here?


Probably around the same time you make a real argument, hun.


That's cute. So I take it you give up? I mean, none of your badly aimed poor-argument interceptor missiles have shot down any of my truth cruise missiles.

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Postby Torrocca » Sun Aug 11, 2019 5:55 pm

The New California Republic wrote:
Cekoviu wrote:Did you expect anything more at this point?

Especially with that cringeable gas comment earlier, not really. :lol2:


There's a reason their "gas of truth" smells like shit. It's coming outta their ass.
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Postby Springfeal » Sun Aug 11, 2019 5:56 pm

Torrocca wrote:
Springfeal wrote:
Artificial women, yes.


Nope. Real women.


Just like how a scammer would say that his gold and diamond Swiss watches are not just imitations.

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Postby The New California Republic » Sun Aug 11, 2019 5:57 pm

Springfeal wrote:
Torrocca wrote:
Probably around the same time you make a real argument, hun.


That's cute. So I take it you give up? I mean, none of your badly aimed poor-argument interceptor missiles have shot down any of my truth cruise missiles.

The weird missile nonsense you keep carrying on with is just creepy as fuck. Come back when you have arguments not centred around munitions or cars.
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The Irradiated Wasteland of The New California Republic: depicting the expanded NCR, several years after the total victory over Caesar's Legion, and the annexation of New Vegas and its surrounding areas.

White-collared conservatives flashing down the street
Pointing their plastic finger at me
They're hoping soon, my kind will drop and die
But I'm going to wave my freak flag high
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Postby Springfeal » Sun Aug 11, 2019 5:58 pm

The New California Republic wrote:
Springfeal wrote:
That's cute. So I take it you give up? I mean, none of your badly aimed poor-argument interceptor missiles have shot down any of my truth cruise missiles.

The weird missile nonsense you keep carrying on with is just creepy as fuck. Come back when you have arguments not centred around munitions or cars.


But, you are the ones with bad arguments. Actually, you have yet to give me a single real argument.

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Postby Cekoviu » Sun Aug 11, 2019 5:58 pm

Springfeal wrote:
Torrocca wrote:
Luckily for us, trans women aren't dead guys, but living women.


Artificial women, yes.

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Postby Ifreann » Sun Aug 11, 2019 5:58 pm

Torrocca wrote:
Ifreann wrote:You think so? Because workers for Dodge and various other companies took raw materials and step by step transformed them into a 1968 Dodge Charger, and with enough time and some tools any determined person could turn that car into scrap. If I presented you with a pile of scrap, would you call it a Dodge Charger? Would you call it raw iron ore? Do you imagine that there were metals buried in the Earth, there for billions of years, that were somehow always truly a Dodge Charger?


Whoa, now, Iffy, are you saying these factory workers took raw materials and... transformed them... into a vehicle that didn't previously exist?! Say it isn't so!

It's a magic that few possess. Most notably Johnny Cash.


Springfeal wrote:
Ifreann wrote:You think so? Because workers for Dodge and various other companies took raw materials and step by step transformed them into a 1968 Dodge Charger, and with enough time and some tools any determined person could turn that car into scrap. If I presented you with a pile of scrap, would you call it a Dodge Charger? Would you call it raw iron ore? Do you imagine that there were metals buried in the Earth, there for billions of years, that were somehow always truly a Dodge Charger?


It would be a pile of scrap, but not a Geo Metro. Just as a dead guy is a corpse, not a live woman.

How can it be scrap? You can't change what something truly is, and that was truly a 1968 Dodge Charger. It was never just raw materials and it can never just be scrap, not truly.
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Postby Torrocca » Sun Aug 11, 2019 5:59 pm

Springfeal wrote:
Torrocca wrote:
Nope. Real women.


Just like how a scammer would say that his gold and diamond Swiss watches are not just imitations.


Whoops, I forgot that we're all just trying to scam people with our womanliness. Silly me. :roll:
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Postby Cekoviu » Sun Aug 11, 2019 5:59 pm

Springfeal wrote:
The New California Republic wrote:The weird missile nonsense you keep carrying on with is just creepy as fuck. Come back when you have arguments not centred around munitions or cars.


But, you are the ones with bad arguments. Actually, you have yet to give me a single real argument.

It's kind of hard to take you seriously enough to put in a high-effort argument when you think trans people are inanimate objects and you keep making obnoxious comments about truth missiles and your gassiness.
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Postby Torrocca » Sun Aug 11, 2019 6:01 pm

Ifreann wrote:
Torrocca wrote:
Whoa, now, Iffy, are you saying these factory workers took raw materials and... transformed them... into a vehicle that didn't previously exist?! Say it isn't so!

It's a magic that few possess. Most notably Johnny Cash.


Pffft, nonsense. I know you're lying because I have to fend off 30-50 wild '68 Dodge Chargers frolicking in my yard every 3-5 minutes.

Now I want to learn Johnny Cash's magical transformation powers ;~;
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Postby Springfeal » Sun Aug 11, 2019 6:01 pm

Cekoviu wrote:
Springfeal wrote:
But, you are the ones with bad arguments. Actually, you have yet to give me a single real argument.

It's kind of hard to take you seriously enough to put in a high-effort argument when you think trans people are inanimate objects and you keep making obnoxious comments about truth missiles and your gassiness.


Apparently, you don't understand the concept of analogies. And your arguments make as much as the Banana Boy claiming that he is king of NS. Just because he says it doesn't make it so.

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