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Postby Torrocca » Sat Jun 15, 2019 10:06 am

Novus America wrote:
Torrocca wrote:I'm loving all this love and support <3 But, uh, seriously, the Egg of Self-Doubt and Confusion is looking mighty comfortable recently... :V


Have you spoken to a professional therapist trained in such things? That is almost certainly hot best option.


>TFW can't even afford a professional therapist

Hahaha... no.
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Postby Ifreann » Sat Jun 15, 2019 10:06 am

The New California Republic wrote:
Novus America wrote:Have you spoken to a professional therapist trained in such things? That is almost certainly hot best option.

Therapy can be many things, but I'd be concerned if it was hot...

Sauna therapy. Sweat out the trauma.


Torrocca wrote:
Novus America wrote:
Have you spoken to a professional therapist trained in such things? That is almost certainly hot best option.


>TFW can't even afford a professional therapist

Hahaha... no.

America, fuck yeah.
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Postby Novus America » Sat Jun 15, 2019 10:16 am

Torrocca wrote:
Novus America wrote:
Have you spoken to a professional therapist trained in such things? That is almost certainly hot best option.


>TFW can't even afford a professional therapist

Hahaha... no.


Have you tried contacting your state’s health department regarding Medicaid? Also there are various non governmental groups that may be able to offer low cost or free help.
Try contacting various trans advocacy groups in your area and ask what they advise.

There are resources out there but you really have to search for them.
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Think something like prewar Fallout, minus the bad stuff.

Politically I am an independent. I support what is good for the country, which means I cannot support either party.

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Postby Dumb Ideologies » Sat Jun 15, 2019 11:45 am

Torrocca wrote:I'm loving all this love and support <3 But, uh, seriously, the Egg of Self-Doubt and Confusion is looking mighty comfortable recently... :V


TG box and Discord is open if you're ever looking for a slightly blunter flavour of advice.
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Postby Torrocca » Sat Jun 15, 2019 3:23 pm

Novus America wrote:
Torrocca wrote:
>TFW can't even afford a professional therapist

Hahaha... no.


Have you tried contacting your state’s health department regarding Medicaid? Also there are various non governmental groups that may be able to free help.
Try contacting various trans advocacy groups in your area and ask what the advise.

There are resources out there but you really have to search for them.


Yes, but e g g.

Dumb Ideologies wrote:
Torrocca wrote:I'm loving all this love and support <3 But, uh, seriously, the Egg of Self-Doubt and Confusion is looking mighty comfortable recently... :V


TG box and Discord is open if you're ever looking for a slightly blunter flavour of advice.


<3
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Postby Novus America » Sat Jun 15, 2019 4:07 pm

Ifreann wrote:
The New California Republic wrote:Therapy can be many things, but I'd be concerned if it was hot...

Sauna therapy. Sweat out the trauma.


Torrocca wrote:
>TFW can't even afford a professional therapist

Hahaha... no.

America, fuck yeah.


As flawed as public health in the US is, it is not quite as bad as made out to be.
I wonder how many in the US lack healthcare but are actually qualified for some form of subsidized healthcare and simply never signed up?
That would be an interesting study.

There are options, but the systems are fragmented, not universal and not very user friendly but they actually do exist.

Anyone here who lives in the US who does not have healthcare should start doing research on options, contact their state health department regarding Medicaid and any other options, and contact trans advocacy groups asking what they recommend.
Here are some places to start.
https://www.medicaid.gov/medicaid-and-you/index.html
https://www.medicaid.gov/about-us/conta ... -page.html
https://www.healthcare.gov/
https://www.hrc.org/resources/health-re ... r-patients

Maybe we can add these links to the OP.
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Novus America represents my vision of an awesome Atompunk near future United States of America expanded to the entire North American continent, Guyana and the Philippines. The population would be around 700 million.
Think something like prewar Fallout, minus the bad stuff.

Politically I am an independent. I support what is good for the country, which means I cannot support either party.

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Postby Grenartia » Sat Jun 15, 2019 8:51 pm

Cekoviu wrote:
The New California Republic wrote:Therapy can be many things, but I'd be concerned if it was hot...

Sex therapy is a legitimate profession!


Sex as therapy is also valid.

Novus America wrote:
Torrocca wrote:
>TFW can't even afford a professional therapist

Hahaha... no.


Have you tried contacting your state’s health department regarding Medicaid? Also there are various non governmental groups that may be able to offer low cost or free help.
Try contacting various trans advocacy groups in your area and ask what they advise.

There are resources out there but you really have to search for them.


Medicaid would probably be the best route, if her state has accepted the expansion funding.

Novus America wrote:
Ifreann wrote:Sauna therapy. Sweat out the trauma.



America, fuck yeah.


As flawed as public health in the US is, it is not quite as bad as made out to be.
I wonder how many in the US lack healthcare but are actually qualified for some form of subsidized healthcare and simply never signed up?
That would be an interesting study.

There are options, but the systems are fragmented, not universal and not very user friendly but they actually do exist.

Anyone here who lives in the US who does not have healthcare should start doing research on options, contact their state health department regarding Medicaid and any other options, and contact trans advocacy groups asking what they recommend.
Here are some places to start.
https://www.medicaid.gov/medicaid-and-you/index.html
https://www.medicaid.gov/about-us/conta ... -page.html
https://www.healthcare.gov/
https://www.hrc.org/resources/health-re ... r-patients

Maybe we can add these links to the OP.


I'll make sure to do that when I can. Still not entirely sure my computer is fixed (can't tell if its a hardware problem or a software problem, and all I've tried so far are software fixes).
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Postby Ifreann » Sat Jun 15, 2019 9:03 pm

Grenartia wrote:
Cekoviu wrote:Sex therapy is a legitimate profession!


Sex as therapy is also valid.

Don't have sex with your therapist, folks.
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Postby Grenartia » Sat Jun 15, 2019 9:30 pm

Ifreann wrote:
Grenartia wrote:
Sex as therapy is also valid.

Don't have sex with your therapist, folks.


Ask your therapist if sex is right for you.
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Postby Auzkhia » Sat Jun 15, 2019 9:37 pm

Novus America wrote:
Ifreann wrote:Sauna therapy. Sweat out the trauma.



America, fuck yeah.


As flawed as public health in the US is, it is not quite as bad as made out to be.
I wonder how many in the US lack healthcare but are actually qualified for some form of subsidized healthcare and simply never signed up?
That would be an interesting study.

There are options, but the systems are fragmented, not universal and not very user friendly but they actually do exist.

Anyone here who lives in the US who does not have healthcare should start doing research on options, contact their state health department regarding Medicaid and any other options, and contact trans advocacy groups asking what they recommend.
Here are some places to start.
https://www.medicaid.gov/medicaid-and-you/index.html
https://www.medicaid.gov/about-us/conta ... -page.html
https://www.healthcare.gov/
https://www.hrc.org/resources/health-re ... r-patients

Maybe we can add these links to the OP.

Yeah, for sure, I'm on one for disability, but also some therapists only take certain plans that are within network, and not always the state, and the state plans may or may not cover what you need. It's something but there are caveats.
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Postby Nanatsu no Tsuki » Sun Jun 16, 2019 9:24 am

Novus America wrote:
Ifreann wrote:Sauna therapy. Sweat out the trauma.



America, fuck yeah.


As flawed as public health in the US is, it is not quite as bad as made out to be.
I wonder how many in the US lack healthcare but are actually qualified for some form of subsidized healthcare and simply never signed up?
That would be an interesting study.

There are options, but the systems are fragmented, not universal and not very user friendly but they actually do exist.

Anyone here who lives in the US who does not have healthcare should start doing research on options, contact their state health department regarding Medicaid and any other options, and contact trans advocacy groups asking what they recommend.
Here are some places to start.
https://www.medicaid.gov/medicaid-and-you/index.html
https://www.medicaid.gov/about-us/conta ... -page.html
https://www.healthcare.gov/
https://www.hrc.org/resources/health-re ... r-patients

Maybe we can add these links to the OP.


The issue is that in many states, some people that need healthcare fall through the cracks. They don’t make enough to buy insurance but make too much for the state to help. Even if the subsidies are there.
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Postby Novus America » Sun Jun 16, 2019 9:31 am

Nanatsu no Tsuki wrote:
Novus America wrote:
As flawed as public health in the US is, it is not quite as bad as made out to be.
I wonder how many in the US lack healthcare but are actually qualified for some form of subsidized healthcare and simply never signed up?
That would be an interesting study.

There are options, but the systems are fragmented, not universal and not very user friendly but they actually do exist.

Anyone here who lives in the US who does not have healthcare should start doing research on options, contact their state health department regarding Medicaid and any other options, and contact trans advocacy groups asking what they recommend.
Here are some places to start.
https://www.medicaid.gov/medicaid-and-you/index.html
https://www.medicaid.gov/about-us/conta ... -page.html
https://www.healthcare.gov/
https://www.hrc.org/resources/health-re ... r-patients

Maybe we can add these links to the OP.


The issue is that in many states, some people that need healthcare fall through the cracks. They don’t make enough to buy insurance but make too much for the state to help. Even if the subsidies are there.


That is true. But there are probably people who can qualify and do not know to apply.
If you can claim a disability it also allows you coverage you would not have otherwise.
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Novus America represents my vision of an awesome Atompunk near future United States of America expanded to the entire North American continent, Guyana and the Philippines. The population would be around 700 million.
Think something like prewar Fallout, minus the bad stuff.

Politically I am an independent. I support what is good for the country, which means I cannot support either party.

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Postby Nanatsu no Tsuki » Sun Jun 16, 2019 9:33 am

Novus America wrote:
Nanatsu no Tsuki wrote:
The issue is that in many states, some people that need healthcare fall through the cracks. They don’t make enough to buy insurance but make too much for the state to help. Even if the subsidies are there.


That is true. But there are probably people who can qualify and do not know to apply.
If you can claim a disability it also allows you coverage you would not have otherwise.


Probably the states need to more actively help in guiding their population to apply for these subsidies if they qualify but don’t know how to apply.
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Postby Nakena » Sun Jun 16, 2019 11:08 am

Is it just me or is this Summer very heated when it comes to LGBT issues?

Or is it just NSG?

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Postby Communal concils » Sun Jun 16, 2019 11:15 am

I believe that the TERFS are justified in their beliefs.
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Postby Communal concils » Sun Jun 16, 2019 11:18 am

Nakena wrote:Is it just me or is this Summer very heated when it comes to LGBT issues?

Or is it just NSG?



It is expected . The Future does not always go one direction.
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List of liberal or semi-liberal ideologies to avoid: "Left"-communism, trotskyism, Intersectionalism, anarchism,classical liberal, social liberalism and economic liberalism( conservatives are addicted to this)

Become anti-woke, and free yourself from the lies of mainstream corporate consumerist media.you should also become an anti-consumerist and anti-capitalist. Embrace socialism( the command economy is better.)
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Postby Ifreann » Sun Jun 16, 2019 11:19 am

Communal concils wrote:I believe that the TERFS are justified in their beliefs.

Of course you do. They're social conservatives, just like you.
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Postby Communal concils » Sun Jun 16, 2019 11:21 am

Ifreann wrote:
Communal concils wrote:I believe that the TERFS are justified in their beliefs.

Of course you do. They're social conservatives, just like you.




I am not a true Social Conservative, but okay.

I am fine with that label
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Become anti-woke, and free yourself from the lies of mainstream corporate consumerist media.you should also become an anti-consumerist and anti-capitalist. Embrace socialism( the command economy is better.)
NOTE: Make Cultural Marxism a Real Thing !

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Postby Vassenor » Sun Jun 16, 2019 11:33 am

Communal concils wrote:I believe that the TERFS are justified in their beliefs.


Are you going to explain why, or are you just going to drop an inflammatory post and run?
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Postby Communal concils » Sun Jun 16, 2019 11:41 am

Vassenor wrote:
Communal concils wrote:I believe that the TERFS are justified in their beliefs.


Are you going to explain why, or are you just going to drop an inflammatory post and run?



Okay. I believe that The radical Feminist have the right concerns, they don't want artificial members of their gender in the bathroom of biological women. They are also concern that the Transgender Women embrace stereotypes of biological females.

Honestly, I also agree that one can never actually change their sex.
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List of liberal or semi-liberal ideologies to avoid: "Left"-communism, trotskyism, Intersectionalism, anarchism,classical liberal, social liberalism and economic liberalism( conservatives are addicted to this)

Become anti-woke, and free yourself from the lies of mainstream corporate consumerist media.you should also become an anti-consumerist and anti-capitalist. Embrace socialism( the command economy is better.)
NOTE: Make Cultural Marxism a Real Thing !

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Postby Vassenor » Sun Jun 16, 2019 12:03 pm

Communal concils wrote:
Vassenor wrote:
Are you going to explain why, or are you just going to drop an inflammatory post and run?



Okay. I believe that The radical Feminist have the right concerns, they don't want artificial members of their gender in the bathroom of biological women. They are also concern that the Transgender Women embrace stereotypes of biological females.

Honestly, I also agree that one can never actually change their sex.


So basically you're plugging bullshit because it fits your narratives.
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Postby Communal concils » Sun Jun 16, 2019 12:09 pm

Vassenor wrote:
Communal concils wrote:

Okay. I believe that The radical Feminist have the right concerns, they don't want artificial members of their gender in the bathroom of biological women. They are also concern that the Transgender Women embrace stereotypes of biological females.

Honestly, I also agree that one can never actually change their sex.


So basically you're plugging bullshit because it fits your narratives.



That is simply not true. It's called having a opinion.
Woke Leftist: Anti-Liberal Leftist

List of liberal or semi-liberal ideologies to avoid: "Left"-communism, trotskyism, Intersectionalism, anarchism,classical liberal, social liberalism and economic liberalism( conservatives are addicted to this)

Become anti-woke, and free yourself from the lies of mainstream corporate consumerist media.you should also become an anti-consumerist and anti-capitalist. Embrace socialism( the command economy is better.)
NOTE: Make Cultural Marxism a Real Thing !

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Postby The New California Republic » Sun Jun 16, 2019 12:10 pm

Communal concils wrote:I believe that the TERFS are justified in their beliefs.

You would, as your views are just as extreme.

Communal concils wrote:Okay. I believe that The radical Feminist have the right concerns, they don't want artificial members of their gender in the bathroom of biological women. They are also concern that the Transgender Women embrace stereotypes of biological females.

Honestly, I also agree that one can never actually change their sex.

And again this doesn't surprise me, as your views regarding sex and gender are fringe to say the least.
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Postby Vassenor » Sun Jun 16, 2019 12:10 pm

Communal concils wrote:
Vassenor wrote:
So basically you're plugging bullshit because it fits your narratives.



That is simply not true. It's called having a opinion.


Calling it an opinion doesn't magically make it not bullshit.
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Postby The New California Republic » Sun Jun 16, 2019 12:13 pm

Communal concils wrote:
Vassenor wrote:So basically you're plugging bullshit because it fits your narratives.

That is simply not true. It's called having a opinion.

Having an opinion and said opinion being bullshit are not mutually exclusive. In fact, there is no way logically that could be the case.
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White-collared conservatives flashing down the street
Pointing their plastic finger at me
They're hoping soon, my kind will drop and die
But I'm going to wave my freak flag high
Wave on, wave on
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