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Who is your favorite pre-modern (before 1900) trans person (actual or suspected)?

Publick Universal Friend
5
11%
James Barry
8
17%
Albert Cashier
4
9%
Elagabalus
7
15%
Chevalier d'Éon
8
17%
Eleno de Céspedes
2
4%
Charley Parkhurst
2
4%
We'wha
3
6%
Alan Hart
3
6%
Lili Elbe
5
11%
 
Total votes : 47

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Postby The Xenopolis Confederation » Tue May 21, 2019 5:22 pm

Torrocca wrote:
Des-Bal wrote:

So stop bringing it up. Because I don't care. But you keep talking about it. So I keep telling you I don't care.

I didn't say the transgender opinion was irrelevant I said it was exactly as relevant as the transgender opinion on viruses.

I totally do think the exact same way. Your race is irrelevant in determining whether or not nigger is a slur.


10/10, thanks for letting us know exactly how worthless your opinion on this matter is. :)

Your race is not the be all end all in determining whether or not "nigger" is a slur.
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Postby Necroghastia » Tue May 21, 2019 5:24 pm

The Xenopolis Confederation wrote:
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The word's not a slur to you. Similarly to how "nigger" isn't a slur to white people or "faggot" isn't a slur to heterosexual people. Just because it doesn't affect you personally doesn't mean jack fucking shit; trans people have literally been killed because of this shitty fucking notion that we're trying to "trap" people into having sex with somebody of a gender they wouldn't have sex with.

It's worth noting that many gay people refer to themselves as "faggots" and many black people refer to each other as "nigga."


It's almost like there's a difference between a group using a word that has historically been used to denigrate them amongst themselves and members of another group (esp. the group that perpetrates said denigration) using said word.
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Postby The Rich Port » Tue May 21, 2019 5:25 pm

The Xenopolis Confederation wrote:
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10/10, thanks for letting us know exactly how worthless your opinion on this matter is. :)

Your race is not the be all end all in determining whether or not "nigger" is a slur.


But it's uh, kind of a weird way to insult someone who isn't black, isn't it.

If I was called the n-word I'd more confused than insulted.
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Postby The Xenopolis Confederation » Tue May 21, 2019 5:25 pm

Proctopeo wrote:r/traaaaaa is in the same vein as r/socialism tbqh
random stupid bans because some mod got an idea in their noggin, next thing you know, cat girls are illegal

political/identity subreddits and their meme counterparts are universally trash, only the video game subreddits have merit, and even then not always

r/traaaaaa could be worse. It is pretty lefty, but they're not gonna ban you for being non leftist. And they certainty don't want to ban catgirls, they're rather fond of them. I've had political arguments on r/traaaa without being banned.
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Postby Des-Bal » Tue May 21, 2019 5:26 pm

Torrocca wrote:"'There's no such thing as a girl with a dick'

what a time to be alive where this is considered a controversial statement"

"Traps are usually cute, I'm guessing this guy is a non-passing hon"

I fucking love how you're gonna ignore these two top comments that are quite clearly transphobic as fuck. 10/10


Nah, not at all.


Again, the very fucking definition of the word "trap" implies trickery, which means the implication of calling an androgynous man (or a trans woman or whoever else) a trap is that they're being tricksters. That's the fucking contradiction, chief.


Look, an offensive comment distinguishing between a transgender people and traps and an offensive post that does not use the word trap.

Yeah still.

Then you're arguing about the approrpiateness of the name of a meme. Bridget was one of the ur traps and used male pronouns and was to my knowledge totally heterosexual.The implication was never really that those associated with the term were orchestrating a deception and especially not in order to bang you.
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Postby Proctopeo » Tue May 21, 2019 5:26 pm

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r/Drama's being completely unironic.


One of the most malevolent, cruel, coldhearted online communities you'll ever find. you think [slur]town was bad? That subreddit, if you pick up on the dog-whistles (and many don't even bother with that-- say want you want about Stormfront, at least it bans "n[slur]"), will reveal itself to you as Reddit's number one hub for the web's most hardened Nazis, Klansmen, Fascists, and Gamergaters.


Oh how Poe's Law has never been so true.

>listing GamerGaters on the same level as Nazis, Klansmen, and Fascists
Since it's reddit, this is either entirely ironic or entirely serious, and I'm not sure which scares me more.

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Cappuccina wrote:Well, somebody sure is angry.

Idk, why "trap" would be offensive to anyone, not like people aren't gonna do a trendy "reclaiming" of the word in like two years anyways.


And that's... A bad thing to you?

Some people would say that reclaiming words isn't even that useful, since it just normalizes slurs.

I somewhat disagree, but it's certainly more effective in some instances more than others.

Reclaiming words is actually a great thing because it moves to declaw slurs. If a word is accepted and embraced by much of those it describes, well, it's not nearly as powerful, is it?

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Torrocca wrote:

Did you not bother reading the last sentence of the description? it outright implies exactly that situation of the main character getting "tricked".

And how the fuck is "trap" not when you're being fucking told by trans people that it is used just like that against us?!

Even if that were true, that doesn't magically make it not a slur, for fuck sake.


Good for you. Since you don't care so much, how soon do you plan on stopping arguing in favor of this bullshit of yours that "trap" isn't a slur?


You yourself just literally fucking admitted a word's a slur when it denigrates and insults, so your entire bullshit argument here about how trap's magically not a slur when it denigrates and insults trans people is the biggest load of contradictory bullshit you could possibly come up with.


As much as I love to argue about the nuances of language in the description of pornography this is not the evidence you think it is.

Because you haven't provided a single instance of that happening much less evidence it's a problem. At this point it looks an awful lot like rainbow parties or aids needles being hidden in gas pumps- exceedingly rare and totally eclipsed by the outrage.

The word trap is used to describe cisgender men and almost never with the implication they're maliciously tricking people. It's not ant-transgender slur, it's not even about transgender people.

This sums it up tbh. Outside of occasional cases of self-identification by trans women it's pretty much always in reference to cisgender men.


Given that the nation was created less than 90 minutes ago as of now and CTE'd about ten, I'm going to call total and utter bullshit here, and make the assertion that you made this nation yourself, with the sole purpose of trying to win this argument and hoping nobody would check the boneyard.
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Postby The Xenopolis Confederation » Tue May 21, 2019 5:27 pm

Torrocca wrote:
The Xenopolis Confederation wrote:It's worth noting that many gay people refer to themselves as "faggots" and many black people refer to each other as "nigga."


Context is super important, as we see here.

Of course, but it does indicate that " trap" isn't universally a slur.
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Postby Des-Bal » Tue May 21, 2019 5:28 pm

The Xenopolis Confederation wrote:Of course, but it does indicate that " trap" isn't universally a slur.


Also if nigger was historically aimed at white people and still mostly aimed at white people it really wouldn't be an anti-black slur.
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Postby Torrocca » Tue May 21, 2019 5:29 pm

Des-Bal wrote:
Torrocca wrote:"'There's no such thing as a girl with a dick'

what a time to be alive where this is considered a controversial statement"

"Traps are usually cute, I'm guessing this guy is a non-passing hon"

I fucking love how you're gonna ignore these two top comments that are quite clearly transphobic as fuck. 10/10


Nah, not at all.


Again, the very fucking definition of the word "trap" implies trickery, which means the implication of calling an androgynous man (or a trans woman or whoever else) a trap is that they're being tricksters. That's the fucking contradiction, chief.


Look, an offensive comment distinguishing between a transgender people and traps


TIL'd trans women aren't really women until they've had bottom surgery

10/10

and an offensive post that does not use the word trap.


"Traps are usually cute, I'm guessing this guy is a non-passing hon"

You can say whatever you want but you're fucking wrong here, champ. That entire quote's full-fledged transphobia.

Yeah still.


Nah.

Then you're arguing about the approrpiateness of the name of a meme. Bridget was one of the ur traps and used male pronouns and was to my knowledge totally heterosexual.The implication was never really that those associated with the term were orchestrating a deception and especially not in order to bang you.


>TFW this one lone example invalidates the fact that trap's used as a slur

10/10 yet again, Des.
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Postby Torrocca » Tue May 21, 2019 5:30 pm

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Postby Proctopeo » Tue May 21, 2019 5:37 pm


Mods aren't amazing at figuring out who's who. VPNs exist, and if you're on a different computer - or perhaps just a different browser - they may be none the wiser. Now, of course, it might not have been you - perhaps someone wishing to reinforce your argument?

The timing is, without any doubt, awfully convenient. A nation at most an hour old manages to find you, send an inflammatory message, then kamikazes into a region whose name is literally "Gay"? Yeah, that's textbook bullshit, chief.
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Postby Torrocca » Tue May 21, 2019 5:38 pm

Proctopeo wrote:
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Then the mods would've banned me if that was my nation, considering that nation was also trolling Gay.

Weird how that didn't happen, right?

Mods aren't amazing at figuring out who's who. VPNs exist, and if you're on a different computer - or perhaps just a different browser - they may be none the wiser. Now, of course, it might not have been you - perhaps someone wishing to reinforce your argument?

The timing is, without any doubt, awfully convenient. A nation at most an hour old manages to find you, send an inflammatory message, then kamikazes into a region whose name is literally "Gay"? Yeah, that's textbook bullshit, chief.


Y'know what, then? Report me. I fucking dare you, since you wanna make this utterly bullshit accusation that I'm behind that nation. Go right the fuck ahead and do it right the fuck now, because I'm honestly so fucking sick and Goddamn tired of this bullshit.
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Postby Rostavykhan » Tue May 21, 2019 5:39 pm

Torrocca wrote:
and an offensive post that does not use the word trap.


"Traps are usually cute, I'm guessing this guy is a non-passing hon"

You can say whatever you want but you're fucking wrong here, champ. That entire quote's full-fledged transphobia.




Being cute is literally the point of traps. Of course someone wouldn't be a trap if they weren't cute. They wouldn't make people think that they're not really dudes if they weren't passing.

Then it's not a trap; it's a full-frontal assault.
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Postby Des-Bal » Tue May 21, 2019 5:40 pm

Torrocca wrote:TIL'd trans women aren't really women until they've had bottom surgery

10/10


"Traps are usually cute, I'm guessing this guy is a non-passing hon"

You can say whatever you want but you're fucking wrong here, champ. That entire quote's full-fledged transphobia.



>TFW this one lone example invalidates the fact that trap's used as a slur

10/10 yet again, Des.


Where the fuck did you learn that? That's a crazy thing for you to have learned. Maybe set the pencil down and stop learning for a bit you're getting quite a bit wrong.

"Trannies trying to appropriate the term "trap" so they can feel like the victim"

"Are trannies traps? No."

"The term trap literally just means that male looks like a woman imagine getting butthurt on the internet lmfao"

"Someone post the virgin tranny vs the chad trap pic"

If there's a theme in that thread it's that these people aren't shy about using slurs, if there's another it's that they aren't talking about transgender people when they say "trap."

Counting isn't going so great there. See you listed one post that didn't use the word your upset about and one that said traps were cute and accused the target of their hostility of being a transgender woman who did not pass.

It sure does, when one of the archetypical traps has nothing to do with maliciously tricking people maliciously tricking people can't be all that important to the meme.
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Postby Torrocca » Tue May 21, 2019 5:40 pm

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Torrocca wrote:


"Traps are usually cute, I'm guessing this guy is a non-passing hon"

You can say whatever you want but you're fucking wrong here, champ. That entire quote's full-fledged transphobia.




Being cute is literally the point of traps. Of course someone wouldn't be a trap if they weren't cute. They wouldn't make people think that they're not really dudes if they weren't passing.

Then it's not a trap; it's a full-frontal assault.


Good job; you completely missed the transphobia.
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Postby Des-Bal » Tue May 21, 2019 5:42 pm

Torrocca wrote:Good job; you completely missed the transphobia.


It's a good job all around because you seem to think it has to do with how you refer to cisgender men.
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Postby Proctopeo » Tue May 21, 2019 5:42 pm

Torrocca wrote:
Proctopeo wrote:Mods aren't amazing at figuring out who's who. VPNs exist, and if you're on a different computer - or perhaps just a different browser - they may be none the wiser. Now, of course, it might not have been you - perhaps someone wishing to reinforce your argument?

The timing is, without any doubt, awfully convenient. A nation at most an hour old manages to find you, send an inflammatory message, then kamikazes into a region whose name is literally "Gay"? Yeah, that's textbook bullshit, chief.


Y'know what, then? Report me. I fucking dare you, since you wanna make this utterly bullshit accusation that I'm behind that nation. Go right the fuck ahead and do it right the fuck now, because I'm honestly so fucking sick and Goddamn tired of this bullshit.

The only person impacted is yourself, so I personally don't feel the need to report you. All you've done is embarrass yourself with an incredibly obvious fabrication. And I wouldn't want to put a stop to that. Someone else can report you if they wish, though, I won't stop them.

Seriously, how dumb do you think we are? I wasn't born yesterday.
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Postby Des-Bal » Tue May 21, 2019 5:44 pm

Proctopeo wrote:The only person impacted is yourself, so I personally don't feel the need to report you. All you've done is embarrass yourself with an incredibly obvious fabrication. And I wouldn't want to put a stop to that. Someone else can report you if they wish, though, I won't stop them.

Seriously, how dumb do you think we are? I wasn't born yesterday.


I also got a message so I'm assuming someone walked in, saw conflict, and sent a bunch of teles.
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Postby Torrocca » Tue May 21, 2019 5:44 pm

Des-Bal wrote:
Torrocca wrote:TIL'd trans women aren't really women until they've had bottom surgery

10/10


"Traps are usually cute, I'm guessing this guy is a non-passing hon"

You can say whatever you want but you're fucking wrong here, champ. That entire quote's full-fledged transphobia.



>TFW this one lone example invalidates the fact that trap's used as a slur

10/10 yet again, Des.


Where the fuck did you learn that? That's a crazy thing for you to have learned. Maybe set the pencil down and stop learning for a bit you're getting quite a bit wrong.


Them: "'There's no such thing as a girl with a dick'

what a time to be alive where this is considered a controversial statement"

You: "Look, an offensive comment distinguishing between a transgender people and traps"

:roll:

"Trannies trying to appropriate the term "trap" so they can feel like the victim"

"Are trannies traps? No."

"The term trap literally just means that male looks like a woman imagine getting butthurt on the internet lmfao"

"Someone post the virgin tranny vs the chad trap pic"

If there's a theme in that thread it's that these people aren't shy about using slurs, if there's another it's that they aren't talking about transgender people when they say "trap."


I'm sorry, are any of those top comments like the two I listed?

Counting isn't going so great there. See you listed one post that didn't use the word your upset about


It was literally used in the context of whether or not trap refers to trans people. 10/10 for using those context clues.

and one that said traps were cute and accused the target of their hostility of being a transgender woman who did not pass.


It's not an accusation, it's literally in the fucking words ffs.

It sure does, when one of the archetypical traps has nothing to do with maliciously tricking people maliciously tricking people can't be all that important to the meme.


Again, do you or do you not understand what "trap", as a word, means?
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Postby Proctopeo » Tue May 21, 2019 5:45 pm

Des-Bal wrote:
Proctopeo wrote:The only person impacted is yourself, so I personally don't feel the need to report you. All you've done is embarrass yourself with an incredibly obvious fabrication. And I wouldn't want to put a stop to that. Someone else can report you if they wish, though, I won't stop them.

Seriously, how dumb do you think we are? I wasn't born yesterday.


I also got a message so I'm assuming someone walked in, saw conflict, and sent a bunch of teles.

It's possible. Timing is definitely weird, and since it miraculously gave Torra ammunition she so very deeply needed, you can see why I'm suspecting what I am.
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Postby Torrocca » Tue May 21, 2019 5:46 pm

Proctopeo wrote:
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Y'know what, then? Report me. I fucking dare you, since you wanna make this utterly bullshit accusation that I'm behind that nation. Go right the fuck ahead and do it right the fuck now, because I'm honestly so fucking sick and Goddamn tired of this bullshit.

The only person impacted is yourself, so I personally don't feel the need to report you. All you've done is embarrass yourself with an incredibly obvious fabrication. And I wouldn't want to put a stop to that. Someone else can report you if they wish, though, I won't stop them.

Seriously, how dumb do you think we are? I wasn't born yesterday.


No, seriously, go the fuck ahead and report me if you're so fucking sure of yourself that I'm that fucking sleazy that I'd go ahead and do this kinda shit. Fucking do it, because I'm beyond fucking done with your bullshit here of trying to underhandedly label me as some dishonest idiot.
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Postby Proctopeo » Tue May 21, 2019 5:48 pm

Torrocca wrote:
Proctopeo wrote:The only person impacted is yourself, so I personally don't feel the need to report you. All you've done is embarrass yourself with an incredibly obvious fabrication. And I wouldn't want to put a stop to that. Someone else can report you if they wish, though, I won't stop them.

Seriously, how dumb do you think we are? I wasn't born yesterday.


No, seriously, go the fuck ahead and report me if you're so fucking sure of yourself that I'm that fucking sleazy that I'd go ahead and do this kinda shit. Fucking do it, because I'm beyond fucking done with your bullshit here of trying to underhandedly label me as some dishonest idiot.

Again, the only person impacted by this is yourself. Why would I report something like that? It's like calling the police to tell someone shot themselves in the foot. I'd rather call an ambulance than try and get someone arrested for trying to murder themselves.
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Postby Torrocca » Tue May 21, 2019 5:50 pm

Proctopeo wrote:
Torrocca wrote:
No, seriously, go the fuck ahead and report me if you're so fucking sure of yourself that I'm that fucking sleazy that I'd go ahead and do this kinda shit. Fucking do it, because I'm beyond fucking done with your bullshit here of trying to underhandedly label me as some dishonest idiot.

Again, the only person impacted by this is yourself. Why would I report something like that? It's like calling the police to tell someone shot themselves in the foot. I'd rather call an ambulance than try and get someone arrested for trying to murder themselves.
The ambulance in this case is my laughter, of course.


Because you're fucking accusing me of being a sleazy piece of shit and committing to rule-breaking behavior, the second of fucking which is more than enough reason to make a report in your case. That you're explicitly not doing fucking that despite making these bullshit fucking accusations of yours is pretty telling that all you give a fuck about is insulting me by treating me like I'm some sort of dishonest cunt.
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Postby Des-Bal » Tue May 21, 2019 5:52 pm

Torrocca wrote:Them: "'There's no such thing as a girl with a dick'

what a time to be alive where this is considered a controversial statement"

You: "Look, an offensive comment distinguishing between a transgender people and traps"

:roll:


I'm sorry, are any of those top comments like the two I listed?


It was literally used in the context of whether or not trap refers to trans people. 10/10 for using those context clues.

It's not an accusation, it's literally in the fucking words ffs.


Again, do you or do you not understand what "trap", as a word, means?


Are you have a very specific kind of stroke? You posted 2 comments. 1 comment was transphobic and never used the word trap. The other post expressed admiration for traps and disdain for transgender people implying the two are not the same. You've got which one is which exactly backwards. Hint: The one I said doesn't use the word trap is not the one with the word trap in it.

One of your comments made my point and the other point made no point at all.

Again, you're bitching about the internet's naming conventions. Do you understand what a Doge is? It has nothing to do with Shiba Inus. The word trap simply did not imply the subject was maliciously tricking people.
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Postby Proctopeo » Tue May 21, 2019 5:53 pm

Torrocca wrote:
Proctopeo wrote:Again, the only person impacted by this is yourself. Why would I report something like that? It's like calling the police to tell someone shot themselves in the foot. I'd rather call an ambulance than try and get someone arrested for trying to murder themselves.
The ambulance in this case is my laughter, of course.


Because you're fucking accusing me of being a sleazy piece of shit and committing to rule-breaking behavior, the second of fucking which is more than enough reason to make a report in your case. That you're explicitly not doing fucking that despite making these bullshit fucking accusations of yours is pretty telling that all you give a fuck about is insulting me by treating me like I'm some sort of dishonest cunt.

Your continued frenzied reactions make this nuclear self-own all the more damaging to you, you know.
It's high time you calm down before you burn away more and more.
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