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Postby Grenartia » Sat Aug 01, 2020 8:00 am

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A result of unclear syntax in the thread title.


To be fair, hashtags are more easily readable when the start of a new word is capitalized.

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Postby Dumb Ideologies » Tue Aug 04, 2020 11:41 am



We should be cautious about taking high profile twitterites as representative of an entire milieu, but it's always disappointing when people lose sight of their own overarching goals out of vindictive glee at the misfortune of their political enemies. Nobody likes a spite machine.
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Postby Cekoviu » Tue Aug 04, 2020 12:09 pm

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We should be cautious about taking high profile twitterites as representative of an entire milieu, but it's always disappointing when people lose sight of their own overarching goals out of vindictive glee at the misfortune of their political enemies. Nobody likes a spite machine.

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do terfs even have any overarching goal other than the misfortune of their political enemies
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Postby Dumb Ideologies » Tue Aug 04, 2020 12:15 pm

Cekoviu wrote:
Dumb Ideologies wrote:
We should be cautious about taking high profile twitterites as representative of an entire milieu, but it's always disappointing when people lose sight of their own overarching goals out of vindictive glee at the misfortune of their political enemies. Nobody likes a spite machine.

er
do terfs even have any overarching goal other than the misfortune of their political enemies


Historically a lot of them came from an active background in domestic abuse and rape shelters. Hence my point - if keeping transwomen out has genuinely become a greater priority for many of them than having shelters at all then they have completely lost sight of why they were doing the thing in the first place.
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Postby Novus America » Tue Aug 04, 2020 12:21 pm

Cekoviu wrote:
Dumb Ideologies wrote:
We should be cautious about taking high profile twitterites as representative of an entire milieu, but it's always disappointing when people lose sight of their own overarching goals out of vindictive glee at the misfortune of their political enemies. Nobody likes a spite machine.

er
do terfs even have any overarching goal other than the misfortune of their political enemies


Probably not but why is that surprising? Contemporary, post modern cancel culture politics is a no holds barred kill or be killed death match, the only goal being to kill the other side.
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Postby Cekoviu » Tue Aug 04, 2020 12:29 pm

Novus America wrote:
Cekoviu wrote:er
do terfs even have any overarching goal other than the misfortune of their political enemies


Probably not but why is that surprising? Contemporary, post modern cancel culture politics is a no holds barred kill or be killed death match, the only goal bring to kill the other side.

it's not surprising that's the point
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Postby Vassenor » Thu Aug 06, 2020 7:33 am

Things may be moving. Had a call today about confirming if I still wanted an assessment at the GIC - this may not be me at the top of the list but at least it confirms I'm on it and haven't been flushed off.

EDIT: It's happening. Got my first assessment over video conference next week.
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Postby Hediacrana » Thu Aug 06, 2020 8:53 am

Vassenor wrote:Things may be moving. Had a call today about confirming if I still wanted an assessment at the GIC - this may not be me at the top of the list but at least it confirms I'm on it and haven't been flushed off.

EDIT: It's happening. Got my first assessment over video conference next week.

Good for you! Sending positive energy your way.

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By the way, in case this is of any interest to people here: Lili Wachowski confirmed fan speculation that The Matrix movies, which she wrote and directed alongside her sister Lana (who, like her, is trans), were always meant to be an allegory for trans experiences.
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Postby Fahran » Thu Aug 06, 2020 10:20 am

Vassenor wrote:Things may be moving. Had a call today about confirming if I still wanted an assessment at the GIC - this may not be me at the top of the list but at least it confirms I'm on it and haven't been flushed off.

EDIT: It's happening. Got my first assessment over video conference next week.

Congratulations and good luck!

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Postby Grenartia » Thu Aug 06, 2020 2:19 pm

Hediacrana wrote:
Vassenor wrote:Things may be moving. Had a call today about confirming if I still wanted an assessment at the GIC - this may not be me at the top of the list but at least it confirms I'm on it and haven't been flushed off.

EDIT: It's happening. Got my first assessment over video conference next week.

Good for you! Sending positive energy your way.

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By the way, in case this is of any interest to people here: Lili Wachowski confirmed fan speculation that The Matrix movies, which she wrote and directed alongside her sister Lana (who, like her, is trans), were always meant to be an allegory for trans experiences.


My dad's gonna flip his lid, lol.

Vassenor wrote:Things may be moving. Had a call today about confirming if I still wanted an assessment at the GIC - this may not be me at the top of the list but at least it confirms I'm on it and haven't been flushed off.

EDIT: It's happening. Got my first assessment over video conference next week.


Hope it goes well!
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Postby Grenartia » Thu Aug 06, 2020 3:27 pm

Anyways, I figure I'll let the poll go until page 465. Votes are switchable.
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Postby Vassenor » Thu Aug 06, 2020 4:53 pm

...I guess I'm mostly scared of screwing it up or having stuff like not having achieved full time social transition yet being held against me.
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Postby The New California Republic » Fri Aug 07, 2020 11:09 am

The Matrix films are about being transgender, the trilogy's co-director says.

"That was the original intention but the world wasn't quite ready," says Lilly Wachowski, who came out as trans along with her sister Lana after the films came out.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/newsbeat-53692435
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Postby Vassenor » Fri Aug 07, 2020 12:14 pm

The New California Republic wrote:
The Matrix films are about being transgender, the trilogy's co-director says.

"That was the original intention but the world wasn't quite ready," says Lilly Wachowski, who came out as trans along with her sister Lana after the films came out.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/newsbeat-53692435


Not that the rightists will stop throwing around redpilling now that we know what its real meaning is.
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Postby Cekoviu » Fri Aug 07, 2020 12:22 pm

Vassenor wrote:
The New California Republic wrote:
The Matrix films are about being transgender, the trilogy's co-director says.

"That was the original intention but the world wasn't quite ready," says Lilly Wachowski, who came out as trans along with her sister Lana after the films came out.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/newsbeat-53692435


Not that the rightists will stop throwing around redpilling now that we know what its real meaning is.

they'll probably use it more now that they know its real meaning

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Postby Proctopeo » Fri Aug 07, 2020 2:34 pm

Vassenor wrote:
The New California Republic wrote:
The Matrix films are about being transgender, the trilogy's co-director says.

"That was the original intention but the world wasn't quite ready," says Lilly Wachowski, who came out as trans along with her sister Lana after the films came out.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/newsbeat-53692435


Not that the rightists will stop throwing around redpilling now that we know what its real meaning is.

they could also apply "death of the author"; basically taking her interpretation as being no more valid than anybody else's (especially since this seems to be a case of pulling a Rowling)

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Not that the rightists will stop throwing around redpilling now that we know what its real meaning is.

they'll probably use it more now that they know its real meaning

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The "pill" metaphor has evolved far beyond its origins and is basically a separate thing at this point. More rather, a separate collection of things using their own meanings, as definitions can vary widely.

Though using it more would be funny for the fact it probably would piss off the twins. The uncomfortable truth is that making other people mad while not actually causing any harm is fun.
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Postby Grenartia » Fri Aug 07, 2020 4:05 pm

Vassenor wrote:...I guess I'm mostly scared of screwing it up or having stuff like not having achieved full time social transition yet being held against me.


Mood, tbh.



But "TERF Island" is 'rood an unakurate', or something.
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Postby Novus America » Fri Aug 07, 2020 4:26 pm

Cekoviu wrote:
Vassenor wrote:
Not that the rightists will stop throwing around redpilling now that we know what its real meaning is.

they'll probably use it more now that they know its real meaning

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Well yes, because the alt right types enjoy deliberately appropriating symbols to their own ends and changing them. So that would only probably encourage them. See also, Pepe.

Also it really does not change the movie at all. It is about someone feeling uncomfortable, out of place, in a fake existence and they find meaning and truth by moving outside it.

Sure that could apply to the trans experience but could also apply to a bunch of others. You can apply a metaphor like that fir more than one thing.
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Think something like prewar Fallout, minus the bad stuff.

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Postby Cekoviu » Fri Aug 07, 2020 4:32 pm

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Cekoviu wrote:they'll probably use it more now that they know its real meaning

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Well yes, because the alt right types enjoy deliberately appropriating symbols to their own ends and changing them. So that would only probably encourage them. See also, Pepe.

Also it really does not change the movie at all. It is about someone feeling uncomfortable, out of place, in a fake existence and they find meaning and truth by moving outside it.

Sure that could apply to the trans experience but could also apply to a bunch of others. You can apply a metaphor like that fir more than one thing.

why are you taking my freudian shitposting seriously
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Postby Grenartia » Fri Aug 07, 2020 4:34 pm

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Cekoviu wrote:they'll probably use it more now that they know its real meaning

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Well yes, because the alt right types enjoy deliberately appropriating symbols to their own ends and changing them. So that would only probably encourage them. See also, Pepe.

Also it really does not change the movie at all. It is about someone feeling uncomfortable, out of place, in a fake existence and they find meaning and truth by moving outside it.

Sure that could apply to the trans experience but could also apply to a bunch of others. You can apply a metaphor like that fir more than one thing.


Sure, but there's a more subtle things that do indicate a specificity to the trans experience. The red pill vs blue pill, for instance. Back around the time the first movie came out, the primary form of estrogen in HRT was Premarin, which was a red pill. You could also convincingly argue the blue pill was a reference to Viagra. And there's the way Agent Smith consistently and derogatorily keeps calling Neo "Mister Anderson", in the same way that transphobic individuals will deadname and misgender trans people.
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Postby Novus America » Fri Aug 07, 2020 4:36 pm

Cekoviu wrote:
Novus America wrote:
Well yes, because the alt right types enjoy deliberately appropriating symbols to their own ends and changing them. So that would only probably encourage them. See also, Pepe.

Also it really does not change the movie at all. It is about someone feeling uncomfortable, out of place, in a fake existence and they find meaning and truth by moving outside it.

Sure that could apply to the trans experience but could also apply to a bunch of others. You can apply a metaphor like that fir more than one thing.

why are you taking my freudian shitposting seriously


Well it might be Freudian shitposting but it is also correct.
And then we could take this further down that route, about this whole thing about how some incense actually feel out of place as men and all and go down that route.

Simple point remains I doubt this will stop anyone who already copied that meme from continuing to use it.
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Novus America represents my vision of an awesome Atompunk near future United States of America expanded to the entire North American continent, Guyana and the Philippines. The population would be around 700 million.
Think something like prewar Fallout, minus the bad stuff.

Politically I am an independent. I support what is good for the country, which means I cannot support either party.

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