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Postby Saint Nicholas and the Hussars » Sun Apr 05, 2020 4:53 pm

Proctopeo wrote:
The Evergreen Dreamscapes wrote:prescriptivism is bad and wrong, not to mention incoherent. good night.

descriptivism doesn't mean doing whatever you damn well please though

or in other words, bumble scruzz! bribble flabble!

Hanafuridake wrote:Are we really using neo-pronouns?

Why?

someone that was mentioned used them to be subversive or whatever

He
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Postby Cekoviu » Sun Apr 05, 2020 4:56 pm

The Evergreen Dreamscapes wrote:
Cekoviu wrote:No, people just need to deal with the fact that words have meaning and it's ridiculous to just pick what feels nice when it's not accurate.

(sighs in linguistics student)
Killing them was never on the table, just altering the usage of certain terms among the community.

(sighs in linguistics student)

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Kowani wrote:
Cekoviu wrote:No, people just need to deal with the fact that words have meaning and it's ridiculous to just pick what feels nice when it's not accurate.

Killing them was never on the table, just altering the usage of certain terms among the community.

Now that’s cognitive dissonance.

ok
Saint Nicholas and the Hussars wrote:
Proctopeo wrote:descriptivism doesn't mean doing whatever you damn well please though

or in other words, bumble scruzz! bribble flabble!


someone that was mentioned used them to be subversive or whatever

He

what?
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Postby Proctopeo » Sun Apr 05, 2020 4:57 pm

Cekoviu wrote:
The Evergreen Dreamscapes wrote:(sighs in linguistics student)

(sighs in linguistics student)

(sighs in also a linguistics student)

(/læfs/ in also also a linguistics student)

Saint Nicholas and the Hussars wrote:He

what?

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Postby Cekoviu » Sun Apr 05, 2020 4:59 pm

Proctopeo wrote:
Cekoviu wrote:(sighs in also a linguistics student)

(/læfs/ in also also a linguistics student)

Wait, really?
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Postby 4chan Unity » Sun Apr 05, 2020 5:00 pm

I'm... still confused as to what are we talking about.
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Postby Saint Nicholas and the Hussars » Sun Apr 05, 2020 5:02 pm

Proctopeo wrote:
Cekoviu wrote:(sighs in also a linguistics student)

(/læfs/ in also also a linguistics student)

what?

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Postby Cekoviu » Sun Apr 05, 2020 5:02 pm

4chan Unity wrote:I'm... still confused as to what are we talking about.

Whether nonbinary people can be lesbians.

I am slightly curious about your perspective, as you say you're an actual lesbian and I don't believe any have commented thus far unless TED is.
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Postby Proctopeo » Sun Apr 05, 2020 5:06 pm

Cekoviu wrote:
Proctopeo wrote:(/læfs/ in also also a linguistics student)

Wait, really?

Yep! I don't talk about it too much, though.
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Postby 4chan Unity » Sun Apr 05, 2020 5:08 pm

Cekoviu wrote:
4chan Unity wrote:I'm... still confused as to what are we talking about.

Whether nonbinary people can be lesbians.


Let me chip in then!

So nonbinary is an umbrella term generally, that includes people like nonbinary, bigender, agender, etc, basically any gender identity that's not male or female

Bigenders can be lesbian, they are half female and half male, so In practical sense a bigender who is in a relationship with a girl is technically lesbian
Demigirls can be lesbian, as they are (part) girls,
Genderfluids can be lesbian
And when talking people who identity as just nonbinary or third gender
if the nonbinary wishes to have a female body, and then has a relationship with a female, the nonbinary is lesbian.
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Postby Cekoviu » Sun Apr 05, 2020 5:08 pm

Proctopeo wrote:
Cekoviu wrote:Wait, really?

Yep! I don't talk about it too much, though.

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Postby Cekoviu » Sun Apr 05, 2020 5:10 pm

4chan Unity wrote:
Cekoviu wrote:Whether nonbinary people can be lesbians.


Let me chip in then!

So nonbinary is an umbrella term generally, that includes people like nonbinary, bigender, agender, etc, basically any gender identity that's not male or female

Bigenders can be lesbian, they are half female and half male, so In practical sense a bigender who is in a relationship with a girl is technically lesbian
Demigirls can be lesbian, as they are (part) girls,
Genderfluids can be lesbian

Disagree on the first two, although that is a good reminder - I'd say a genderfluid person can be lesbian at a given time if their gender identity at that point is female.
And when talking people who identity as just nonbinary or third gender
if the nonbinary wishes to have a female body, and then has a relationship with a female, the nonbinary is lesbian.

What do you mean by "wishes to have a female body"? Genitalia, just secondary sexual characteristics...?
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Postby 4chan Unity » Sun Apr 05, 2020 5:11 pm

Cekoviu wrote:What do you mean by "wishes to have a female body"? Genitalia, just secondary sexual characteristics...?

(Mostly) both
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Postby Proctopeo » Sun Apr 05, 2020 5:12 pm

Cekoviu wrote:
4chan Unity wrote:
Let me chip in then!

So nonbinary is an umbrella term generally, that includes people like nonbinary, bigender, agender, etc, basically any gender identity that's not male or female

Bigenders can be lesbian, they are half female and half male, so In practical sense a bigender who is in a relationship with a girl is technically lesbian
Demigirls can be lesbian, as they are (part) girls,
Genderfluids can be lesbian

Disagree on the first two, although that is a good reminder - I'd say a genderfluid person can be lesbian at a given time if their gender identity at that point is female.
And when talking people who identity as just nonbinary or third gender
if the nonbinary wishes to have a female body, and then has a relationship with a female, the nonbinary is lesbian.

What do you mean by "wishes to have a female body"? Genitalia, just secondary sexual characteristics...?

Have one in the trunk of their car, specifically.

Cekoviu wrote:
Proctopeo wrote:Yep! I don't talk about it too much, though.

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Postby Cekoviu » Sun Apr 05, 2020 5:16 pm

4chan Unity wrote:
Cekoviu wrote:What do you mean by "wishes to have a female body"? Genitalia, just secondary sexual characteristics...?

(Mostly) both

I don't think that's terribly common for non-binary people, though I could be wrong.
Proctopeo wrote:
Cekoviu wrote:Disagree on the first two, although that is a good reminder - I'd say a genderfluid person can be lesbian at a given time if their gender identity at that point is female.

What do you mean by "wishes to have a female body"? Genitalia, just secondary sexual characteristics...?

Have one in the trunk of their car, specifically.

Took me a second. :lol2:
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Postby Necroghastia » Sun Apr 05, 2020 5:24 pm

Cekoviu wrote:
4chan Unity wrote:I'm... still confused as to what are we talking about.

Whether nonbinary people can be lesbians.

I am slightly curious about your perspective, as you say you're an actual lesbian and I don't believe any have commented thus far unless TED is.

*cough*
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Postby Cekoviu » Sun Apr 05, 2020 5:26 pm

Necroghastia wrote:
Cekoviu wrote:Whether nonbinary people can be lesbians.

I am slightly curious about your perspective, as you say you're an actual lesbian and I don't believe any have commented thus far unless TED is.

*cough*

Eh? Didn't you just insert a quick side comment or am I forgetting something?
Also, I didn't know you were a lesbian, so.
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Postby Hanafuridake » Sun Apr 05, 2020 5:41 pm

Cekoviu wrote:
4chan Unity wrote:I'm... still confused as to what are we talking about.

Whether nonbinary people can be lesbians.

I am slightly curious about your perspective, as you say you're an actual lesbian and I don't believe any have commented thus far unless TED is.


Excuse me.
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Postby Cekoviu » Sun Apr 05, 2020 5:54 pm

Hanafuridake wrote:
Cekoviu wrote:Whether nonbinary people can be lesbians.

I am slightly curious about your perspective, as you say you're an actual lesbian and I don't believe any have commented thus far unless TED is.


Excuse me.

ok wow, i guess a lot of people are lesbians that i didn't know were lesbians
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Postby Hanafuridake » Sun Apr 05, 2020 5:57 pm

Cekoviu wrote:
Hanafuridake wrote:
Excuse me.

ok wow, i guess a lot of people are lesbians that i didn't know were lesbians


... what did you think I was?
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Postby Necroghastia » Sun Apr 05, 2020 5:59 pm

Cekoviu wrote:
Necroghastia wrote:*cough*

Eh? Didn't you just insert a quick side comment or am I forgetting something?

Necroghastia wrote:
Proctopeo wrote:they don't, though

they might be attracted to women, but that by itself doesn't make somebody a lesbian, or else I'm a lesbian

Of course, but if one considers themself to be somewhat a woman (e.g., demigirls or bigender people) it's possible to for that person to be a lesbian.

Also, I didn't know you were a lesbian, so.

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Postby Cekoviu » Sun Apr 05, 2020 6:05 pm

Hanafuridake wrote:
Cekoviu wrote:ok wow, i guess a lot of people are lesbians that i didn't know were lesbians


... what did you think I was?

I think I had the vague impression that you were ace?
Necroghastia wrote:
Cekoviu wrote:Eh? Didn't you just insert a quick side comment or am I forgetting something?

Necroghastia wrote:Of course, but if one considers themself to be somewhat a woman (e.g., demigirls or bigender people) it's possible to for that person to be a lesbian.

o
Also, I didn't know you were a lesbian, so.

*points at flag*

I literally just found out that that's the lesbian flag
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Postby Proctopeo » Sun Apr 05, 2020 6:08 pm

Cekoviu wrote:
Hanafuridake wrote:
... what did you think I was?

I think I had the vague impression that you were ace?
Necroghastia wrote:

o
*points at flag*

I literally just found out that that's the lesbian flag

I only really recognize the normal one, the awful variants of the normal one, and the hecookinsexual pride flag
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Postby Crockerland » Sun Apr 05, 2020 8:20 pm

Hanafuridake wrote:"Non-binary lesbians" sounds like someone just wants the chic of lesbianism while not actually identifying as a woman.

Dumb Ideologies wrote:
The Evergreen Dreamscapes wrote:nonbinary lesbians exist


That doesn't make sense. Try "gynophile", perhaps.

Cekoviu wrote:
The Evergreen Dreamscapes wrote:nonbinary lesbians exist

No they don't

Proctopeo wrote:
The Evergreen Dreamscapes wrote:nonbinary lesbians exist

they don't, though

they might be attracted to women, but that by itself doesn't make somebody a lesbian, or else I'm a lesbian


How problematic! Who will this thread marginalize next? Heterosexual lesbians? Or perhaps our beloved cisgender transmen?
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Postby Grenartia » Sun Apr 05, 2020 8:25 pm

Crockerland wrote:
Hanafuridake wrote:"Non-binary lesbians" sounds like someone just wants the chic of lesbianism while not actually identifying as a woman.

Dumb Ideologies wrote:
That doesn't make sense. Try "gynophile", perhaps.

Cekoviu wrote:No they don't

Proctopeo wrote:they don't, though

they might be attracted to women, but that by itself doesn't make somebody a lesbian, or else I'm a lesbian


How problematic! Who will this thread marginalize next? Heterosexual lesbians? Or perhaps our beloved cisgender transmen?


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I think we should have an LGBT thread to be more inclusive rather than just a trans thread.

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