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Postby Cekoviu » Thu Feb 27, 2020 1:41 pm

Saciu wrote:I'm going to reveal my new name to most of the people I know tonight, so I'm hoping it goes well.

Good luck!
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Postby Vassenor » Thu Feb 27, 2020 4:18 pm

So I'm starting to feel like my inability to find any sort of employment is putting a serious stall on my transition.
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Postby Cekoviu » Thu Feb 27, 2020 4:27 pm

Vassenor wrote:So I'm starting to feel like my inability to find any sort of employment is putting a serious stall on my transition.

How so?
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Postby Grenartia » Fri Feb 28, 2020 3:32 am

Nanatsu no Tsuki wrote:
Fahran wrote:Your translation was pretty good honestly. The English article does seem to have updated information though. This story is atrocious.


Update: police arrested one of the murderers at the airport, when he was trying to flee the Island with his family.


I hope the bastard rots for a long time.

Saciu wrote:I'm going to reveal my new name to most of the people I know tonight, so I'm hoping it goes well.


Hopefully it went well!

Vassenor wrote:So I'm starting to feel like my inability to find any sort of employment is putting a serious stall on my transition.


As someone with poor employment, I know that feeling.
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Postby Hediacrana » Sat Feb 29, 2020 4:24 pm

Reuters: 'Hundreds of thousands of transgender Americans may be unable to vote in this year’s election because their name or looks do not match their identification card, research showed on Thursday, a trend that experts say could affect Democratic turnout.'
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Postby Nanatsu no Tsuki » Sat Feb 29, 2020 4:52 pm

Grenartia wrote:
Nanatsu no Tsuki wrote:
Update: police arrested one of the murderers at the airport, when he was trying to flee the Island with his family.


I hope the bastard rots for a long time.

Saciu wrote:I'm going to reveal my new name to most of the people I know tonight, so I'm hoping it goes well.


Hopefully it went well!

Vassenor wrote:So I'm starting to feel like my inability to find any sort of employment is putting a serious stall on my transition.


As someone with poor employment, I know that feeling.


The reaction of many, particularly quite a few religious people, has been nauseating. They keep calling her “a dude wearing a skirt”, saying “he had it coming”. It’s like Alexa is denied dignity even in death. It’s sad.
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Postby Ifreann » Sat Feb 29, 2020 7:20 pm

Hediacrana wrote:Reuters: 'Hundreds of thousands of transgender Americans may be unable to vote in this year’s election because their name or looks do not match their identification card, research showed on Thursday, a trend that experts say could affect Democratic turnout.'

Even when it was the immigants I knew it was the transes.
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Postby Auzkhia » Sat Feb 29, 2020 10:14 pm

Hediacrana wrote:Reuters: 'Hundreds of thousands of transgender Americans may be unable to vote in this year’s election because their name or looks do not match their identification card, research showed on Thursday, a trend that experts say could affect Democratic turnout.'

Voter ID laws are disenfranchising minorities. That's the intent, voter fraud is just a dogwhistle. It's abstract, this has been the Republican party's M.O. for the past fifty years.

Also, if you do find yourself get turned away, ask for a provisional ballot.
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Postby Stanmenistan » Sun Mar 01, 2020 2:26 am

Hi, Cisgender male here, I support Trans rights.

One thing I don't get about TERFs (along with all the other things): how do they deal with there are animals that change sex biologically? How animals that are sequentially hermaphroditic relate to transgender humans is debatable, but doesn't it bother them that the animal kingdom has creatures switching gender all the time?
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Postby Vassenor » Sun Mar 01, 2020 2:32 am

Stanmenistan wrote:Hi, Cisgender male here, I support Trans rights.

One thing I don't get about TERFs (along with all the other things): how do they deal with there are animals that change sex biologically? How animals that are sequentially hermaphroditic relate to transgender humans is debatable, but doesn't it bother them that the animal kingdom has creatures switching gender all the time?


You have to understand they only care about science as far as they can twist it to fit their views.
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Postby Grenartia » Sun Mar 01, 2020 5:46 am

Vassenor wrote:
Stanmenistan wrote:Hi, Cisgender male here, I support Trans rights.

One thing I don't get about TERFs (along with all the other things): how do they deal with there are animals that change sex biologically? How animals that are sequentially hermaphroditic relate to transgender humans is debatable, but doesn't it bother them that the animal kingdom has creatures switching gender all the time?


You have to understand they only care about science as far as they can twist it to fit their views.


Exactly.

Also, title and poll have been updated.
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Postby Cekoviu » Sun Mar 01, 2020 11:13 am

Grenartia wrote:
Vassenor wrote:
You have to understand they only care about science as far as they can twist it to fit their views.


Exactly.

Also, title and poll have been updated.

Loving the new poll, excellent work
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Postby Khasinkonia » Sun Mar 01, 2020 4:33 pm

Terf isn't a slur because I've never heard someone from a private high school say it.

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Postby Grenartia » Sun Mar 01, 2020 8:02 pm

Cekoviu wrote:
Grenartia wrote:
Exactly.

Also, title and poll have been updated.

Loving the new poll, excellent work


Thanks, I only wish it had more options (everything but the obligatory Hasselhoff was from suggestions).

Khasinkonia wrote:Terf isn't a slur because I've never heard someone from a private high school say it.


Actually, I wonder if I can add that without altering the votes...

I don't think so.
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Postby Nakena » Sun Mar 01, 2020 8:06 pm

I don't think TERF is really a word that is known to normies in general.

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Postby North Arkana » Sun Mar 01, 2020 9:24 pm

I didn't even know wtf "gender critical" meant or was dog whistle for until recently myself lol.
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Postby Andsed » Mon Mar 02, 2020 5:13 am

Nanatsu no Tsuki wrote:
Grenartia wrote:
I hope the bastard rots for a long time.



Hopefully it went well!



As someone with poor employment, I know that feeling.


The reaction of many, particularly quite a few religious people, has been nauseating. They keep calling her “a dude wearing a skirt”, saying “he had it coming”. It’s like Alexa is denied dignity even in death. It’s sad.

Disgusting. Those assholes should feel ashamed of themselves in every way.
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Postby Auzkhia » Mon Mar 02, 2020 8:21 am

North Arkana wrote:I didn't even know wtf "gender critical" meant or was dog whistle for until recently myself lol.

Gender critical is what terfs call themselves, and it's just like how white nationalists call themselves "race realists"
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Postby Nanatsu no Tsuki » Mon Mar 02, 2020 12:08 pm

Khasinkonia wrote:Terf isn't a slur because I've never heard someone from a private high school say it.


Honest question: is it a slur? I mean, that’s what they are. Trans exclusionary radical feminists. How is calling someone TERF a slur?
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Postby Vassenor » Mon Mar 02, 2020 12:15 pm

Nanatsu no Tsuki wrote:
Khasinkonia wrote:Terf isn't a slur because I've never heard someone from a private high school say it.


Honest question: is it a slur? I mean, that’s what they are. Trans exclusionary radical feminists. How is calling someone TERF a slur?


Because they say it is as a way of shutting down criticism.
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Postby Nanatsu no Tsuki » Mon Mar 02, 2020 12:16 pm

Vassenor wrote:
Nanatsu no Tsuki wrote:
Honest question: is it a slur? I mean, that’s what they are. Trans exclusionary radical feminists. How is calling someone TERF a slur?


Because they say it is as a way of shutting down criticism.


That’s a silly position, really. I’d debate one, as much in contempt as I hold TERFS.
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Postby Mettaton-EX » Mon Mar 02, 2020 3:34 pm

Nanatsu no Tsuki wrote:
Khasinkonia wrote:Terf isn't a slur because I've never heard someone from a private high school say it.


Honest question: is it a slur? I mean, that’s what they are. Trans exclusionary radical feminists. How is calling someone TERF a slur?


the usual argument seems to be "because the tran's use it in violent contexts, see, look at all these screenshots of people saying 'punch terfs' or whatever, which we've totally-not-obsessively gathered"

of course if that argument were valid, "nazi" would also be a slur
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Postby Proctopeo » Mon Mar 02, 2020 4:01 pm

Mettaton-EX wrote:
Nanatsu no Tsuki wrote:
Honest question: is it a slur? I mean, that’s what they are. Trans exclusionary radical feminists. How is calling someone TERF a slur?


the usual argument seems to be "because the tran's use it in violent contexts, see, look at all these screenshots of people saying 'punch terfs' or whatever, which we've totally-not-obsessively gathered"

of course if that argument were valid, "nazi" would also be a slur

Given that slur is just an alternative word for pejorative, it technically is, at least sometimes. It's contextual. Terms can be both factual and pejorative, such as calling someone whose family tree looks more like a shrub "inbred". Though in the case of both "TERF" and "nazi", there's ample misapplication.
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Postby Luminesa » Mon Mar 02, 2020 4:18 pm

Stanmenistan wrote:Hi, Cisgender male here, I support Trans rights.

One thing I don't get about TERFs (along with all the other things): how do they deal with there are animals that change sex biologically? How animals that are sequentially hermaphroditic relate to transgender humans is debatable, but doesn't it bother them that the animal kingdom has creatures switching gender all the time?

Probably...not? It doesn’t really probably concern most people. The animal kingdom has all sorts of bizarre functions and events. In fact, many of them are fascinating. But otherwise, this is a ridiculous thing to mention in the trans thread, which is about people. Are you gonna fight for the rights of clownfish to have whatever gender they wanna be called? Because clownfish certainly don’t care, they don’t use pronouns themselves. Are you gonna lose your mind if someone says, “So that clownfish is not a real male, it changed to a female in order to reproduce”? People can respond to being referred to in a certain manner, and can debate about how they want to be called. There’s so many more important things to be concerned about. Next question.
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Postby Fahran » Mon Mar 02, 2020 11:13 pm

Stanmenistan wrote:Hi, Cisgender male here, I support Trans rights.

One thing I don't get about TERFs (along with all the other things): how do they deal with there are animals that change sex biologically? How animals that are sequentially hermaphroditic relate to transgender humans is debatable, but doesn't it bother them that the animal kingdom has creatures switching gender all the time?

Presumably, they argue that human sex functions differently.

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