TDT 4: What the $#@! is a "womxn", anyways?

[Imperial Joseon]

To my knowledge, the closest phoneme to /h/ in typical Spanish is /x/. You really use /h/ in word-final position?

No, we don’t. But that’s what the X sounds like in Spanish. Like an aspired H. The x was never part of our pronunciation to begin with. It’s an addendum we made once Spanish came in contact with Amerindian languages that did use it. So when you put an x at the end of a word, it renders it almost impossible to pronounce in a way that makes things flow.

Take “Latinxs” for example.

"Jinx" "Sphinx", yada yada.

[Nanatsu no Tsuki]

No, we don’t. But that’s what the X sounds like in Spanish. Like an aspired H. The x was never part of our pronunciation to begin with. It’s an addendum we made once Spanish came in contact with Amerindian languages that did use it. So when you put an x at the end of a word, it renders it almost impossible to pronounce in a way that makes things flow.

Take “Latinxs” for example.

"Jinx" "Sphinx", yada yada.

No idea what you’re trying to say.

[Imperial Joseon]

"Jinx" "Sphinx", yada yada.

No idea what you’re trying to say.

Same pronunciation?

[Nanatsu no Tsuki]

No idea what you’re trying to say.

Same pronunciation?

Sure, but those are words that do exist. Latinx/Latinxs do not.

[Imperial Joseon]

Same pronunciation?

Sure, but those are words that do exist. Latinx/Latinxs do not.

So, I guess it's slang, then?

[Nanatsu no Tsuki]

Sure, but those are words that do exist. Latinx/Latinxs do not.

So, I guess it's slang, then?

It’s something that certain Spanish speakers came up with to make gendered words in Spanish look gender neutral. In written communication you may come across constructs like “maestrx”- teacher or “bailarinxs”- dancers. The x replaces the o- male termination, the a- female termination or the the e- tends to be used as male plural for certain words but it can be used as gender neutral already.

[United Muscovite Nations]

>arguing about linguistics in the trans thread

[Imperial Joseon]

>arguing about linguistics in the trans thread

Yeah, let's not derail this thread anymore.

[Nanatsu no Tsuki]

>arguing about linguistics in the trans thread

It’s Thursday. *shrug*

Anyway, to bring it back to something related:

...regarding the question asked by Khasinkonia earlier, about overriding parental discretion regarding HRT. I remember reading about these instances in regards to other treatments, like cancer or transfusions, and doctors can overrule parental discretion upon the wishes of a child. But that child has to be a certain age too. Can’t recall the age limit though.

[Cekoviu]

>arguing about linguistics in the trans thread

This is regularly scheduled, just like transmedicalism arguments.

[Ayytaly]

Swerfs, eh? So essentially GIRL POWER but with more dignity and less detrimental boob-baring expositions in public.

I'm talking about people who say it's unfeminist to do pornography, sex work, etc. If you do that you're a victim, or an active agent of the patriarchy. Basically, it's abandoning people. On the other hand, there are concerns about people working it as a means of survival, but that's definitely more of a problem of capitalism, something that Marxist Feminists have a lot to say about.

Ah, shit. I forgot to clear the poll results. It is fixed.

#StillSanders

Doing porn is grabbing the lowest-hanging fruit. I can see why they're so antagonistic towards sex "workers."

[Auzkhia]

I'm talking about people who say it's unfeminist to do pornography, sex work, etc. If you do that you're a victim, or an active agent of the patriarchy. Basically, it's abandoning people. On the other hand, there are concerns about people working it as a means of survival, but that's definitely more of a problem of capitalism, something that Marxist Feminists have a lot to say about.

#StillSanders

Doing porn is grabbing the lowest-hanging fruit. I can see why they're so antagonistic towards sex "workers."

Nothing inherently wrong with exchanging and producing pornography, though the mainstream porn industry is fucked, but that might be best suited for another thread.

[Imperial Joseon]

There's a transgendered female celebrity in Korea named, "Ha Risu", and she has gained spotlight ever since around 2000. She got married, too, but, although she has had a divorce, she's still bright and confident about herself. Strong mentality, for sure.

[Saciu]

There's a transgendered female celebrity in Korea named, "Ha Risu", and she has gained spotlight ever since around 2000. She got married, too, but, although she has had a divorce, she's still bright and confident about herself. Strong mentality, for sure.

As it's been pointed out at least once, transgender isn't a verb.

[Imperial Joseon]

There's a transgendered female celebrity in Korea named, "Ha Risu", and she has gained spotlight ever since around 2000. She got married, too, but, although she has had a divorce, she's still bright and confident about herself. Strong mentality, for sure.

As it's been pointed out at least once, transgender isn't a verb.

A female transgender celebrity? There you go.

[Dumb Ideologies]

>arguing about linguistics in the trans thread

This is regularly scheduled, just like transmedicalism arguments.

oh gods no don't say that word

someone go put 20p in the distraction generator

[Auzkhia]

This is regularly scheduled, just like transmedicalism arguments.

oh gods no don't say that word

someone go put 20p in the distraction generator

Some say that if you recite the word transmedicalism three times whilst looking in the mirror at midnight, Blaire White will appear and declare that she is the transier than thou art.

[North Arkana]

I know none of these terms but somehow they all scare me.

[Imperial Joseon]

I know none of these terms but somehow they all scare me.

Wait until you see the next page. Then, you'll be fine.

[Auzkhia]

I know none of these terms but somehow they all scare me.

Stay for the inevitable debate over the supposed merits and drawbacks, basically, it's the discourse on whether one needs gender dysphoria to be trans, and let's yeet away that can of worms, until someone peels it open.

[Serksis Federation]

I know none of these terms but somehow they all scare me.

Stay for the inevitable debate over the supposed merits and drawbacks, basically, it's the discourse on whether one needs gender dysphoria to be trans, and let's yeet away that can of worms, until someone peels it open.

If someone transitions without gender dysphoria then they are transgender. So no one needs it to be trans.

[Dumb Ideologies]

Stay for the inevitable debate over the supposed merits and drawbacks, basically, it's the discourse on whether one needs gender dysphoria to be trans, and let's yeet away that can of worms, until someone peels it open.

If someone transitions without gender dysphoria then they are transgender. So no one needs it to be trans.

It's reasonable for the state or medical insurers to require a diagnosis of such though before approving funding for any medical transiti...

Oh hell no, pull up pull up, abort!

[Serksis Federation]

If someone transitions without gender dysphoria then they are transgender. So no one needs it to be trans.

It's reasonable for the state or medical insurers to require a diagnosis of such though before approving funding for any medical transiti...

Oh hell no, pull up pull up, abort!

That would be reasonable however, the world’s population doesn’t act reasonable all the time. In addition there’s also cases of people who after they’ve transitioned they regretted it and either detransitioned or have been wanting to. Those individuals have never had gender dysphoria, but instead something else that was misdiagnosed and treated as such.

[Dumb Ideologies]

It's reasonable for the state or medical insurers to require a diagnosis of such though before approving funding for any medical transiti...

Oh hell no, pull up pull up, abort!

That would be reasonable however, the world’s population doesn’t act reasonable all the time. In addition there’s also cases of people who after they’ve transitioned they regretted it and either detransitioned or have been wanting to. Those individuals have never had gender dysphoria, but instead something else that was misdiagnosed and treated as such.

One of the reasons why I support "actually informed consent" involving substantial long-term counselling and living in role rather than someone rocking up one day, having a single quick chat, getting prescribed hormones, then popping in a few months later to book surgery. Which is what some memey scamps are pushing for under the label of "informed consent".

[Transnista]

This is, however, EXTREMELY rare. Nearly every person who goes through transition, myself included, have been trans since they understood the differences, or at least perceived differences, between genders. Many of us have stories of the exact moments we realized we were, idk, "wrong" I guess. Like God messed up, if you believe.

Most people who are even remotely questioning won't go through transition, because its not just something you can "go and get done." It takes years to do, unless you do it illegally and/or unhealthily. I believe every transition clinic in the U.S. requires long-term proof of dysphoria and at least 1.5 years of HRT, at least for M2F, can't say I know much about the F2M side, not being biologically female myself.

EDIT: You have obviously never met anyone on HRT if you think it's some sort of easy "just take it for a few months" kinda deal. It's literally a second puberty, but 3-4 times faster, significantly more painful and mentally taxing, expensive, and comes with high risks of side effects and cancer. Anyone who has been on HRT for any committed amount of time is most likely "actually trans." Frequently informed consent arguments hide transphobic policy designed to prevent people from getting the help they need, while claiming to be humanitarian.