TDT 4: What the $#@! is a "womxn", anyways?

[United Muscovite Nations]

What is the transgender community's opinion on the triumph of the Massachusetts Puritans over the despotic, crypto-Catholic rule of Edmund Andros in 1689? Furthermore, what lessons can this community draw upon from the conquest of the Yankee Protestant British armies over the papist French lands of Canada and the Midwest in French & Indian War?

Looking for things to write for your gender studies thesis?

[Luminesa]

Can we not do this totally random and unprovoked threadjack?

Well technically it's sort of related since Edward Andros was apparently a crossdresser, but he's not unique in that regard (petticoat parties were a favorite of many an English dandy).

But uh yeah, who gives a shit, Bear. Puritan New England is easily the most boring part of American history, thanks to the Puritans.

Hey now, The Crucible came from the Puritans, and the Salem Witch Trials. It’s Halloween and the Puritans always gave good material for a spooking.

[The Rich Port]

Well technically it's sort of related since Edward Andros was apparently a crossdresser, but he's not unique in that regard (petticoat parties were a favorite of many an English dandy).

But uh yeah, who gives a shit, Bear. Puritan New England is easily the most boring part of American history, thanks to the Puritans.

Hey now, The Crucible came from the Puritans, and the Salem Witch Trials. It’s Halloween and the Puritans always gave good material for a spooking.

The Goths and Romantics of the 1840's did it better.

And frankly, that's like saying Doc Savage has good adventure stories.

Sure but there's also all the... Weird racism?

[Grenartia]

Reposting this for use in the next poll.

A waitress who was fired after refusing to serve transphobic customers at a Wisconsin restaurant on Saturday said she has no regrets about putting “morals over money.”

During her shift at Fat Joe’s Bar and Grill in the town of Fond du Lac, Brittany Spencer overheard a couple making insulting comments about a transgender customer sitting at the bar. As she served the customers, they turned to her to ask what she thought about the trans patron.

"They were asking me if I thought it was disgusting and wrong and why we would let someone like that into the establishment," Spencer told NBC 26, NBC News’ Green Bay affiliate. "To which I answered, ‘No, I do not agree with that,’ and walked away."

Spencer said she asked her manager if another employee could serve the table, because she was uncomfortable, but her manager said no.

“She essentially told me to suck it up or go home," Spencer told NBC 26. "To which I said, ‘OK, I will leave.’"

That night, Spencer took to Facebook to share what happened, stating that she was sent home for refusing to serve the customers. The following day, she was alerted by the restaurant’s management that she’d been fired from her waitressing position.

“I WAS FIRED FROM MY JOB BECAUSE I REFUSED TO WAIT ON A TABLE WHO WERE MAKING TRANSPHOBIC REMARKS ABOUT GUESTS AT ANOTHER TABLE,” Spencer wrote on her Facebook page Sunday. “But I’ll always choose my morals over money. See ya.”

Fat Joe’s has since disabled its Facebook page following an inundation of negative reviews. The establishment did not respond to NBC News’ request for comment, but Tad Wallender, one of the co-owners of Fat Joe’s, told NBC 26 that the restaurant serves all customers and that Spencer was fired for “refusing to do the duty we hired her for.”

"We are going to serve anyone in here as long as it's a safe environment," Wallender said. "I've been in the service industry for a good 15 years, and I've heard hundreds of conversations I didn't agree with, but it's a matter of fact of brushing it off and having to tough it out through your task.”

Spencer said she has received a bounty of supportive Facebook messages thanking her for standing up against transphobia. She has also filed a complaint with the Equal Employment Opportunity Commission (EEOC), a federal agency that enforces civil rights laws against workplace discrimination.

While she is in the process of looking for a new job, she said the incident at Fat Joe’s is “bigger than” what happened to her.

"Ignoring hate and ignoring people talking like that is not being neutral," Spencer said. "That's allowing hate to happen in your establishment, and I didn't think that was appropriate so I left. Turning a blind eye to hate is just as bad as saying the hateful things in my opinion."

Apparently, a bunch of people reached out to her on social media, asking how they could give her money to make up for her lost wages, but instead, she asked for people to donate to a homeless shelter that serves LGBT+ youth, putting the icing on the cake for superb allyship.

The charity she's requested people donate to: couragemke.org

[Grenartia]

Title and poll have been updated.

[The Rich Port]

Frankly, the way I look at it, there's no better victory than taking a fool's money.

At the same time, good on her for speaking up.

Me, I woulda fucked up their drink somehow in a way they wouldn't notice while I took their money.

Watering down their drinks maybe. :3

[Grenartia]

Frankly, the way I look at it, there's no better victory than taking a fool's money.

At the same time, good on her for speaking up.

Me, I woulda fucked up their drink somehow in a way they wouldn't notice while I took their money.

Watering down their drinks maybe. :3

Alternatively, giving them non-alcoholic versions of everything, since they wanted to be so childish.

[The Rich Port]

Frankly, the way I look at it, there's no better victory than taking a fool's money.

At the same time, good on her for speaking up.

Me, I woulda fucked up their drink somehow in a way they wouldn't notice while I took their money.

Watering down their drinks maybe. :3

Alternatively, giving them non-alcoholic versions of everything, since they wanted to be so childish.

Ooo maybe if you have cans for beers.

Shake the can really fucking hard and then hand it to them.

Have fun in the bathroom, shit-head XD

[Grenartia]

Alternatively, giving them non-alcoholic versions of everything, since they wanted to be so childish.

Ooo maybe if you have cans for beers.

Shake the can really fucking hard and then hand it to them.

Have fun in the bathroom, shit-head XD

Nah, too obvious. Just give them non-alcoholic beer instead.

[Cekoviu]

I'm torn on this poll. On the one hand, I don't believe businesses should be able to discriminate. OTOH, the customers were voluntarily creating a hostile environment for other customers, so is it really discrimination to not serve them? I definitely think it was right to speak up, but I can't decide whether the termination was appropriate.

[Hediacrana]

Good poll topic! Hopefully this will make more people learn about that awesome waitress.

[Hediacrana]

From transequality.org:

November 1, 2019
Trump Administration Erases Civil Rights Protections for LGBTQ Health Programs

The Trump administration announced today that it would abandon civil rights rules for organizations receiving billions in taxpayer dollars.

Announced by HHS this morning, the rule immediately removes any requirement that recipients of grants from HHS enforce nondiscrimination rules that prohibit discrimination on the basis of sexual orientation or gender identity. Impacting all discretionary and non-discretionary grants across the Department, the rule will allow anti-transgender discrimination in HIV and STI prevention programs, opioid programs, youth homelessness services, health professional training, substance use recovery programs, and many other life-saving services addressing crises with a disparate impact on transgender people in the US.

HHS has already separately moved to allow discrimination in Medicare and Medicaid programs through the elimination of an Obama-era rule protecting transgender people from discrimination in health care. The rule announced today will also remove rules prohibiting discrimination on the basis of religion.

Mara Keisling, Executive Director for the National Center for Transgender Equality, provided the following statement:

“This rule is an abuse of taxpayer dollars in the name of empowering hatred and bigotry towards society’s most vulnerable members. Stigma and prejudice are fueling a public health crisis among transgender people across the country, one that manifests itself as suicide, addiction, intimate partner violence, and HIV. Enabling providers of life-saving services to worsen these crises by rejecting transgender people is a moral crime and a severe abdication of HHS’s mission to preserve public health.”

[Auzkhia]

From transequality.org:

November 1, 2019
Trump Administration Erases Civil Rights Protections for LGBTQ Health Programs

The Trump administration announced today that it would abandon civil rights rules for organizations receiving billions in taxpayer dollars.

Announced by HHS this morning, the rule immediately removes any requirement that recipients of grants from HHS enforce nondiscrimination rules that prohibit discrimination on the basis of sexual orientation or gender identity. Impacting all discretionary and non-discretionary grants across the Department, the rule will allow anti-transgender discrimination in HIV and STI prevention programs, opioid programs, youth homelessness services, health professional training, substance use recovery programs, and many other life-saving services addressing crises with a disparate impact on transgender people in the US.

HHS has already separately moved to allow discrimination in Medicare and Medicaid programs through the elimination of an Obama-era rule protecting transgender people from discrimination in health care. The rule announced today will also remove rules prohibiting discrimination on the basis of religion.

Mara Keisling, Executive Director for the National Center for Transgender Equality, provided the following statement:

“This rule is an abuse of taxpayer dollars in the name of empowering hatred and bigotry towards society’s most vulnerable members. Stigma and prejudice are fueling a public health crisis among transgender people across the country, one that manifests itself as suicide, addiction, intimate partner violence, and HIV. Enabling providers of life-saving services to worsen these crises by rejecting transgender people is a moral crime and a severe abdication of HHS’s mission to preserve public health.”

Remember when log cabins were saying he was going to LGBTQ friendly?

Yet another rock on the mountain of evidence to the contrary. Hopefully this can get reversed at least in 2021.

[The Rich Port]

From transequality.org:

Remember when log cabins were saying he was going to LGBTQ friendly?

Yet another rock on the mountain of evidence to the contrary. Hopefully this can get reversed at least in 2021.

You know what Trump is.

He's the infomercial version of a candidate. Like the Potty Putter (it's real look it up).

"BUY TRUMP, THE PERFECT REPUBLICAN CANDIDATE! ONE SLAP AND HE'LL FIX THE BORDERS! RUB HIM IN AND THE ECONOMY GETS BETTER. AND HE'S LGBT FRIENDLY! NO MORE ALLERGIES TO GROSS HOMO COOTIES!"

Of course, once you actually start to use it, the shitty infomercial product isn't the miracle the infomercials always say it is. Best case scenario they're mediocre, worst case scenario you wasted your money on a bunch of garbage.

[West Leas Oros 2]

Remember when log cabins were saying he was going to LGBTQ friendly?

Yet another rock on the mountain of evidence to the contrary. Hopefully this can get reversed at least in 2021.

You know what Trump is.

He's the infomercial version of a candidate. Like Flex Tape.

"BUY TRUMP, THE PERFECT REPUBLICAN CANDIDATE! ONE SLAP AND HE'LL FIX THE BORDERS! RUB HIM IN AND THE ECONOMY GETS BETTER. AND HE'S LGBT FRIENDLY! NO MORE ALLERGIES TO GROSS HOMO COOTIES!"

Of course, once you actually start to use it, the shitty infomercial product isn't the miracle the infomercials always say it is. Best case scenario they're mediocre, worst case scenario you wasted your money on a bunch of garbage.

How dare you say that about the Flex Seal^TM family of products!

[Vassenor]

From transequality.org:

Remember when log cabins were saying he was going to LGBTQ friendly?

Yet another rock on the mountain of evidence to the contrary. Hopefully this can get reversed at least in 2021.

But he held the flag on stage one time so he could never do anything to harm us.

[The Rich Port]

You know what Trump is.

He's the infomercial version of a candidate. Like Flex Tape.

"BUY TRUMP, THE PERFECT REPUBLICAN CANDIDATE! ONE SLAP AND HE'LL FIX THE BORDERS! RUB HIM IN AND THE ECONOMY GETS BETTER. AND HE'S LGBT FRIENDLY! NO MORE ALLERGIES TO GROSS HOMO COOTIES!"

Of course, once you actually start to use it, the shitty infomercial product isn't the miracle the infomercials always say it is. Best case scenario they're mediocre, worst case scenario you wasted your money on a bunch of garbage.

How dare you say that about the Flex Seal^TM family of products!

You're right my apologies I need to find a better shitty infomercial product

[Proctopeo]

log cabins

What is this even slang for

[The Rich Port]

log cabins

What is this even slang for

... It's not slang.

Log Cabin Republicans?

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Log_Cabin_Republicans

[Proctopeo]

What is this even slang for

... It's not slang.

Log Cabin Republicans?

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Log_Cabin_Republicans

Oh, I've just never heard of it.

I thought it was either something to do with gay Republicans or a totally nonsense snarl word directed against the GLB.

[The Rich Port]

... It's not slang.

Log Cabin Republicans?

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Log_Cabin_Republicans

Oh, I've just never heard of it.

I thought it was either something to do with gay Republicans or a totally nonsense snarl word directed against the GLB.

Quick to assume incorrectly, aren't you.

I can only wish the Log Cabins good fucking luck on that since they're a small minority fighting against bull-headed, vapid tradition and wrong-headed religious pomposity, buttressed by the noxious effects of opulence and "success" of the Christian Republican conspiracy state.

[Proctopeo]

Oh, I've just never heard of it.

I thought it was either something to do with gay Republicans or a totally nonsense snarl word directed against the GLB.

Quick to assume incorrectly, aren't you.

One of my two guesses was pretty close to the mark.

I can only wish the Log Cabins good fucking luck on that since they're a small minority fighting against bull-headed, vapid tradition and wrong-headed religious pomposity, buttressed by the noxious effects of opulence and "success" of the Christian Republican conspiracy state.

What?

[Necroghastia]

Quick to assume incorrectly, aren't you.

One of my two guesses was pretty close to the mark.

I can only wish the Log Cabins good fucking luck on that since they're a small minority fighting against bull-headed, vapid tradition and wrong-headed religious pomposity, buttressed by the noxious effects of opulence and "success" of the Christian Republican conspiracy state.

What?

What's your issue with that sentence?

[Proctopeo]

One of my two guesses was pretty close to the mark.


What?

What's your issue with that sentence?

I assume it's a sentence, I'm just not sure what language it's written in.
Sure as shit ain't English, though.

[Hediacrana]

Remember when log cabins were saying he was going to LGBTQ friendly?

Yet another rock on the mountain of evidence to the contrary. Hopefully this can get reversed at least in 2021.

But he held the flag on stage one time so he could never do anything to harm us.

Remember his 'Ask the gays' thing back in 2016?

I mean, I did not like HRC at all, but gods does this kind of crap put that story into perspective.