TDT 4: What the $#@! is a "womxn", anyways?

[Ifreann]

Speak for yourself, I keep my brain in a jar in the fridge.

Does that make you brainless?

Only when I'm not at home

[Iciaros]

I'm sorry, I'm not quite sure if I get it. My previous understanding was that one tends to identify with one's actual gender. In fact, up till now I thought that it's difficult to tell actual gender other than in terms of how the individual themself understood it, and thus the way that they identify. Is there another way to tell actual gender? Or maybe I'm misunderstanding you, and you're referring to misidentification, which would be sort of like a still in-the-egg thing?

I think I gave myself a mini-headache.

Well, the issue is that it's impossible to actually detect gender at the moment, so there's no way to see if it's misidentification or not. The point is that there is an inherent gender, and someone can be pushed to identify contrary to that gender. That can be an egg situation or it can be pressure to be trans.
To put it another way, the variable exists but we don't know exactly where or what the value is.

I see. Thank you for the clarification! I'll have to see if I can find some literature on the existence of inherent gender, but me being me it will probably take a while for me to get off my butt and actually do it.

[Mettaton-EX]

the general thrust of the study is that gnc children who identify with the "opposite" gender tend to turn out to be trans, and gnc children who don't... don't, and that this holds true regardless of other factors like parenting.

I mean, what defines a child as GNC. The article literally mentions a girl playing with a truck, which seems awfully incidental for a diagnosis criteria.

it's a spectrum. which is why the study gives each child a "gender nonconformity score" between 0 and 1

[First American Empire]

Anybody have experience with combining Prometrium, spironolactone, and estradiol? My doctor suggested reducing the amount of spironolactone I take and adding some Prometrium, but I don't know if I should do that.

Wait, you're trans too?

[Cekoviu]

Anybody have experience with combining Prometrium, spironolactone, and estradiol? My doctor suggested reducing the amount of spironolactone I take and adding some Prometrium, but I don't know if I should do that.

Wait, you're trans too?

You didn't know?

[First American Empire]

Wait, you're trans too?

You didn't know?

I didn't. There's a lot of trans people here and I can't keep track of them all.

[Neanderthaland]

You didn't know?

I didn't. There's a lot of trans people here and I can't keep track of them all.

I think we did a poll once and found that transwomen outnumber ciswomen on NSG by a significant margin.

There's apparently something about the forums of nation simulation games that is very appealing to that demographic. Any sociology students looking for thesis ideas?

[Nanatsu no Tsuki]

I didn't. There's a lot of trans people here and I can't keep track of them all.

I think we did a poll once and found that transwomen outnumber ciswomen on NSG by a significant margin.

There's apparently something about the forums of nation simulation games that is very appealing to that demographic. Any sociology students looking for thesis ideas?

There was a trans man poster a while ago. I don’t think he comes to the site anymore though. I’m trying to remember his NS name and I can’t.

[Nakena]

I didn't. There's a lot of trans people here and I can't keep track of them all.

I think we did a poll once and found that transwomen outnumber ciswomen on NSG by a significant margin.

There's apparently something about the forums of nation simulation games that is very appealing to that demographic. Any sociology students looking for thesis ideas?

Yes, there is something that is very attracting to us. And it isn't the only thing as I found out.

[Jean-Paul Sartre]

I didn't. There's a lot of trans people here and I can't keep track of them all.

I think we did a poll once and found that transwomen outnumber ciswomen on NSG by a significant margin.

There's apparently something about the forums of nation simulation games that is very appealing to that demographic. Any sociology students looking for thesis ideas?

My hypothesis is that politics is coded a male thing, but it's actually interesting to people of both genders (who would have guessed?), and that while a lot of girls grow up learning that their political ideas aren't valuable, a lot of men (even really dumb ones) grow up learning that theirs are. So when your egg cracks, you don't suddenly stop loving politics if that's what you're into, but if it isn't, by the time you get to NS, you won't be interested. In this way, the patriarchy is reified.

[Grenartia]

the general thrust of the study is that gnc children who identify with the "opposite" gender tend to turn out to be trans, and gnc children who don't... don't, and that this holds true regardless of other factors like parenting.

I mean, what defines a child as GNC. The article literally mentions a girl playing with a truck, which seems awfully incidental for a diagnosis criteria.

Did you literally miss the fucking part where we already said GNC isn't inherently trans?

[Nakena]

I think we did a poll once and found that transwomen outnumber ciswomen on NSG by a significant margin.

There's apparently something about the forums of nation simulation games that is very appealing to that demographic. Any sociology students looking for thesis ideas?

My hypothesis is that politics is coded a male thing, but it's actually interesting to people of both genders (who would have guessed?), and that while a lot of girls grow up learning that their political ideas aren't valuable, a lot of men (even really dumb ones) grow up learning that theirs are. So when your egg cracks, you don't suddenly stop loving politics if that's what you're into, but if it isn't, by the time you get to NS, you won't be interested. In this way, the patriarchy is reified.

Interesting take. By the time I got onto NS I was already no longer interested in "conventional" politics. Also some of the more interesting ""political"" stuff I've read recently was written by female writers and it feels very differently than the male approach. If those categories can be applied.

Had I gotten on NS in my teens as so many other people here do, I'd be one of those fellows here who throw around -isms and indulge in various variations (of paradox game suited) ideological and political conceptions.

[Jean-Paul Sartre]

My hypothesis is that politics is coded a male thing, but it's actually interesting to people of both genders (who would have guessed?), and that while a lot of girls grow up learning that their political ideas aren't valuable, a lot of men (even really dumb ones) grow up learning that theirs are. So when your egg cracks, you don't suddenly stop loving politics if that's what you're into, but if it isn't, by the time you get to NS, you won't be interested. In this way, the patriarchy is reified.

Interesting take. By the time I got onto NS I was already no longer interested in "conventional" politics. Also some of the more interesting ""political"" stuff I've read recently was written by female writers and it feels very differently than the male approach. If those categories can be applied.

Had I gotten on NS in my teens as so many other people here do, I'd be one of those fellows here who throw around -isms and indulge in various variations (of paradox game suited) ideological and political conceptions.

I know what you mean. My teenage anarchist stage was interesting enough... to be fair, I was quite the brocialist.

[Nakena]

Interesting take. By the time I got onto NS I was already no longer interested in "conventional" politics. Also some of the more interesting ""political"" stuff I've read recently was written by female writers and it feels very differently than the male approach. If those categories can be applied.

Had I gotten on NS in my teens as so many other people here do, I'd be one of those fellows here who throw around -isms and indulge in various variations (of paradox game suited) ideological and political conceptions.

I know what you mean. My teenage anarchist stage was interesting enough... to be fair, I was quite the brocialist.

During my teenage stage i went through all ideologies from communism, libertarism, fascism and some other stuff. Basically the whole program before I grew out of that "political" phase. Sometimes I recognize a bit of my old self then in some of the - usually younger posters - here who're still in that phase and sometimes overdose in it to unhealthly levels. (been there too sort of)

[Cekoviu]

I think we did a poll once and found that transwomen outnumber ciswomen on NSG by a significant margin.

There's apparently something about the forums of nation simulation games that is very appealing to that demographic. Any sociology students looking for thesis ideas?

My hypothesis is that politics is coded a male thing, but it's actually interesting to people of both genders (who would have guessed?), and that while a lot of girls grow up learning that their political ideas aren't valuable, a lot of men (even really dumb ones) grow up learning that theirs are. So when your egg cracks, you don't suddenly stop loving politics if that's what you're into, but if it isn't, by the time you get to NS, you won't be interested. In this way, the patriarchy is reified.

I think you're correct. There's just not as much of a barrier to entry for trans women.

[The Emerald Legion]

My hypothesis is that politics is coded a male thing, but it's actually interesting to people of both genders (who would have guessed?), and that while a lot of girls grow up learning that their political ideas aren't valuable, a lot of men (even really dumb ones) grow up learning that theirs are. So when your egg cracks, you don't suddenly stop loving politics if that's what you're into, but if it isn't, by the time you get to NS, you won't be interested. In this way, the patriarchy is reified.

Interesting take. By the time I got onto NS I was already no longer interested in "conventional" politics. Also some of the more interesting ""political"" stuff I've read recently was written by female writers and it feels very differently than the male approach. If those categories can be applied.

Had I gotten on NS in my teens as so many other people here do, I'd be one of those fellows here who throw around -isms and indulge in various variations (of paradox game suited) ideological and political conceptions.

I mean, to be entirely fair I've been almost pathological in my aversion to -isms despite having gotten on here in my teens.

In the end, Politics is no different from deciding how to go about doing something.

[Auzkhia]

I didn't. There's a lot of trans people here and I can't keep track of them all.

I think we did a poll once and found that transwomen outnumber ciswomen on NSG by a significant margin.

There's apparently something about the forums of nation simulation games that is very appealing to that demographic. Any sociology students looking for thesis ideas?

Trans women tend to be more overrepresented in trans spaces, but it's because trans men have a far easier time going stealth, and often leave them or just lurk.

I think we did a poll once and found that transwomen outnumber ciswomen on NSG by a significant margin.

There's apparently something about the forums of nation simulation games that is very appealing to that demographic. Any sociology students looking for thesis ideas?

My hypothesis is that politics is coded a male thing, but it's actually interesting to people of both genders (who would have guessed?), and that while a lot of girls grow up learning that their political ideas aren't valuable, a lot of men (even really dumb ones) grow up learning that theirs are. So when your egg cracks, you don't suddenly stop loving politics if that's what you're into, but if it isn't, by the time you get to NS, you won't be interested. In this way, the patriarchy is reified.

I wonder if explains why reddit has a strong trans women and transfeminine community and tumblr has a stronger trans men and transmasculine community. There are both on each site, but it seems one leans to the other than the other.

[The Xenopolis Confederation]

Interesting take. By the time I got onto NS I was already no longer interested in "conventional" politics. Also some of the more interesting ""political"" stuff I've read recently was written by female writers and it feels very differently than the male approach. If those categories can be applied.

Had I gotten on NS in my teens as so many other people here do, I'd be one of those fellows here who throw around -isms and indulge in various variations (of paradox game suited) ideological and political conceptions.

I know what you mean. My teenage anarchist stage was interesting enough... to be fair, I was quite the brocialist.

Who's out there in the world telling girls their political opinions aren't valuable and telling boys their political opinions are?

[Dumb Ideologies]

I know what you mean. My teenage anarchist stage was interesting enough... to be fair, I was quite the brocialist.

Who's out there in the world telling girls their political opinions aren't valuable and telling boys their political opinions are?

Okay so I was bored, had a discount from a printing company, and I wanted to see how easy it was to lockpick school lockers and leave letters rating whether people are allowed to have opinions.

We've all done it.

[Grenartia]

Who's out there in the world telling girls their political opinions aren't valuable and telling boys their political opinions are?

no one.

A great many girls would say you're wrong.

[Mettaton-EX]

this makes me wonder whether people are reading me as afab or amab

[Grenartia]

this makes me wonder whether people are reading me as afab or amab

TBH, I haven't thought about it.

[Auzkhia]

this makes me wonder whether people are reading me as afab or amab

TBH, I haven't thought about it.

My sig kinda gives it away. But even if I didn't list that or even pronouns, I wonder what people would assume. Though, people tend to presume everyone's a guy on the internet.

[Kirina]

With no intention of causing trouble I will share my view on the “Transitive Property of Equality”.

“Equality” is a seriously messed up idea.

Now I’m sure at least 50% of the people here will pull the OMG ITS A FASCIST card. But hear me out.

The problem with equality is that it inherently denies liberty. And no I do not mean Godless “libertarianism” (AKA anarchism) either. I mean liberty as in, “Life Liberty and the Pursuit of Happiness”. Liberty with law, liberty with responsibility and morality. Yes, I’m a conservative. Shocking I know. But yeah. The notion of equality has destroyed every single people it has ever taken over. Look no further than Russia. Equality—whether it be economic or socio-political—is a threat and anithesis to freedom, and thus to the very human existence.

Equality is a terrible idea. Right next to anarchism and tyranny. In fact it often creates the latter.

[Cekoviu]

With no intention of causing trouble I will share my view on the “Transitive Property of Equality”.

“Equality” is a seriously messed up idea.

Now I’m sure at least 50% of the people here will pull the OMG ITS A FASCIST card. But hear me out.

The problem with equality is that it inherently denies liberty. And no I do not mean Godless “libertarianism” (AKA anarchism) either. I mean liberty as in, “Life Liberty and the Pursuit of Happiness”. Liberty with law, liberty with responsibility and morality. Yes, I’m a conservative. Shocking I know. But yeah. The notion of equality has destroyed every single people it has ever taken over. Look no further than Russia. Equality—whether it be economic or socio-political—is a threat and anithesis to freedom, and thus to the very human existence.

Equality is a terrible idea. Right next to anarchism and tyranny. In fact it often creates the latter.

Russia is heavily stratified and has been for a long time, and lacking equality is itself tyranny.